Who am I defending beaner. What you do wake up on the wrong side of the bed
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Yeah hi, I'll send you a DM and tell you I'm doing so under the purest of good intentions
A few moments later.......
Look at these assholes defending Nazis
@Beanz, did I even fucking ONCE mention that guy wearing that shirt? Was I EVER fucking asked about him? #DISAVOW #NOTALLTRUMPSUPPORTERS
I mean holy fuck it is absolutely infuriating to attempt to communicate with you because you're NEVER on the up and up, you're always looking out for this shit and attempting to slap it right by my side when I have never mentioned the guy, wasn't asked about him, but nah yeah nah, YOU decide I'm defending him and what he stands for.
What you DON'T do is think "Gee Donald Trump's daughter is married to Jared Kushner....you know of the Protestant Blue Blood Kushner family. And Eric is married to Lara Trump formerly Lara Yanuska....you know of the ever so Aryan very German and not Jewish AT ALL Yanuska family." But no, you don't do that, you ASSUME, and you ASSUME from the perspective "Well I'm right, my views are always right, my side always cares, my side always has the moral highground"
And again, Trump puts the embassy in Jerusalem, Trump makes peace deal after peace deal normalizing relations between Israel and Arab nations and other Middle East peace deals. WOW such a blatant anti-Semite! Such a rabid white supremacist! :rolleyes:
Something like this happens:
https://twitter.com/PoAmBrotherhood/...64665626251267
Should I lump these bad actors in with you immediately without asking you about them or anything? Should I automatically assume Beanz is Antifa and those assholes are Antifa so therefore Beanz is super cool with those folks attempting to brain a girl with a skateboard?
Is that how you'd LIKE to be treated? It's currently how you're treating Walrus and me. Just automatically assuming the worst of us.....and how is that supposed to play out should I ever join a Zoom chat? How's that to play out if ever we share the same physical space? Am I to just say "LOL man, that was really funny how you called me a Nazi all those times, let's have a handshake and call a truce"? Is THAT what you imagine would happen?
El Kabong yes, you at every opportunity called anyone left of centre or in fact anyone engaging in violence 'your people' when talking to me from day one. You have not once stepped away from the racist and far right cunts and their wanker of a leader that have made your country a laughing stock.
It seeps out of you. Your ignorance and hate bleeds all over these boards. Not just you, but anyone refusing to call out bigotry and hate when they see it, are guilty of enabling it. Hate does not occur in a vacuum, it is fed and nourished and nurtured by you, and people like you. You will not even differentiate between Israel and Jews, let alone anti-facists and far right plants, peaceful protestors and those looking for a fight. You refuse even to see the difference between a corporate chain store and a place that is supposed to represent all views of voters across the board. You are on intolerant bastard, and it shows.
It is all about the money and sucking up to the system for you . It always has been. Now it is apparent that rather than sticking it to the man and fighting for everyday working folk, you were part of a conspiracy to keep one oligarch in power, you have, rather than admit your mistake, doubled down on your support for an enemy of your own country.
Look at how you and Walrus talk to genuine everyday working folk, as though you are both part of some special elite hyper informed intelligent privileged group, while everyone else is stupid in your eyes. You are both victims of a grifter, a fucking useless business man born with a silver spoon up his arse and a contempt for anyone not as sick as him.
When you don't disavow Antifa violence, you might get asked "Are these your people" and when you say things liek Andy Ngo DESERVED what he got, yeah you show your true colors and you're doing so right now.
You've refused to call out bigotry and hate Beanz....but you don't see it as bigotry or hate which makes it worse because YOU ARE BLIND TO IT. Meanwhile you don't even ask me about some guy wearing some shirt, you just ASSUME I've seen it and what accept it? Have you lost your fool fucking mind? You must have.
I will gladly differentiate between Israel & Jews. Israel is the one and only Jewish state which Trump has helped make peace deals with nations previously hostile to them. And Jews are some of Donald Trump's relatives.
Is this Israel or Jews?
https://youtu.be/-0_t5k3jzxs
Israel or Jews?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfsGO78C7U
Have you seen what COVID has done for Billionaires vs what it's done for small business owners? I'm no billionaire, but you hate me like I am one...maybe I should feel wealthy in your hatred? Oh no I forgot you don't HATE you're "flat calm & peace lovin" as always
Is $600 "fighting for the working folk"? Or is $2000 "fighting for the working folk".....who pressed for which outcome?
You don't know a single fucking thing about me Beanz and I've had quite enough of your "familiar tone"....I'll accept no apology from you either. You're a real piece of shit Beanz.
Fuck off Wally. There is nothing ambiguous there.
Here you are following an Orwellian dictator and pretending that anyone pointing that out must be part of some of mind controlled cult.
That is the house you are living in. An America built in the image of a corporate television whore and you got on your knees and deep throated the bastard.
It is very telling how quiet you and his supporters are now that his intentions are now so laid bare.
What happened to law and order? Or is that just a weapon to use against those with no shares or property empires?
You will get no apology from me either El Kabong.
This is not about anti fascists, or Jews or Black Lives Matters, it is about your own selective outrage.
It is about you backing a violent insurrection against your own country. It is about you deciding that because it is too uncomfortable to face your own cognitive dissonance you will just play make believe. It is what you do. You are still pretending that anyone not agreeing with you must be a fellow extremist, but from the opposite side.
There were no hidden intentions in inviting you to come and join a zoom call, so enough with that bullshit already. Stop pretending that me being able to have a conversation with people i may disagree with is somehow a fault.
That has been the problem with the forum for years and it can be traced to this binary polarisation bollocks you still insist on clinging too now as your leader craps all over your country.
You are a snide bastard.
You wrap it up as though it were a joke but in reality you love starting the aggro and then stepping back.
It is not about me. I don't give a shit if somebody is White, Black, Jewish, Christian, Democrat, Republican, whatever.
You though like to pitch people into camps and assume everyone is as ideologically driven as you are.
I am merely pointing out facts, nothing off the hook about refusing to blow arse candle smoke up your poop chute ;D
Do your own work.
Bringing up Soros is as piss poor as El Kabong going on about BLM.
Whatabouttery and bollocks. You having a pop as Spicoli and Brock, and then playing the innocent with your doe eyes.
It just doesn't work with most people.
Wtf dude because I said Soros? Are you ok? Once was in a poem and one was a comeback to tits. Take it easy dude, it’s just written words it won’t hurt you. I wrote about dropping Molly and going to a Soros funded rave. You gave Brock a lot of leeway in poems work with me here dude
Which brings us to the part where I ask you directly (oh no a direct question....your kryptonite!): Where did President Donald J. Trump "incite violence" and/or "insurrection"?
Show your work and maybe we can have a discussion OR you can keep flying off the handle and frothing at the mouth like the rabid idiot I know you to be.
You don't bring us anywhere. You don't get to dictate terms. Four years now and all you have done is refuse to shit, so stay on the pot, shut your mouth and listen.
I unlike you have never claimed to be special, let alone Superman, so you don't need any Kryptonite. Just engage your brain and put your faith in it, rather than in a weak man who has led you to the Devil's door.
Trump, like you, has defended those who shoot unarmed Black people, so fuck you with your supposed concern over inciting violence. Not just four years, but for years now, all we hear is you putting your rights to own a gun ahead of any Christian respect for life.
Lets look at Trumps actual words
"All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats, which is what they’re doing and stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.Our country has had enough. We will not take it any more and that’s what this is all about. To use a favourite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. "
So already just like yourself he is inventing a narrative to paint himself as the aggrieved victim. Blaming radical lefties...just like you. Like you do, invoking cancel culture in attempting top pretend any views he does not agree with should be labelled 'Fake news'. Then insisting that those rioters should never concede. Just like you it is all about winning. Fuck morals... just win.
He then goes on to say
" It’s a disgrace. It’s a disgrace. Even when you look at last night, they’re all running around like chickens with their heads cut off with boxes. Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.
Crowd: Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!
Thank you. I’d love to have, if those tens of thousands of people would be allowed, the military, the secret service, and we want to thank you, and the police law enforcement. Great."
This is clear incitement.
Then he goes on
"But when you see this and when you see what’s happening, number one, they all say, ‘Sir, we’ll never let it happen again.’ I said, ‘That’s good, but what about eight weeks ago?’ They try and get you to go. They say, ‘Sir, in four years, you’re guaranteed.’ I said, ‘I’m not interested right now. Do me a favour, go back eight weeks. I want to go back eight weeks. Let’s go back eight weeks.’ We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that."
Again clear incitement. ,,but the clincher
"Our brightest days are before us, our greatest achievements still wait. I think one of our great achievements will be election security because nobody, until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, ‘I want to thank you very much,’ and they go off to some other life, but I said, ‘Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.’ And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country any more.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavours have not yet begun. My fellow Americans for our movement, for our children and for our beloved country and I say this, despite all that’s happened, the best is yet to come.
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give … The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."
This is only part of a speech in which he insisted that America under him had become a communist country. A speech in which he repeated that under him and his party, the elections were all of a sudden fraudulent and corrupt, unlike under the Democrats when he won back in 2016, and apparently his tiny deep state hands had not been meddling yet.
You could not have written a better script.
He has exploited the aggrieved entitlement you and other middle class white voters feel. Continually justified attacks on Black people like you do, as though you were both the victims and Women, Minorities and Immigrants were constantly attacking white Christians like you, and so White terrorists that bomb and shoot innocent people were justified.
You were always more interested in defending them, than their victims. Look at your posting history and weep.
Trump like you has a hard on for the Proud Boys and the QAnon bullshit that were the key components in this latest attack on Democracy. It may be more blatant and obvious, but you have backed four years of them building up to this.
The equivalence you seek to invoke for your own moral ambivalence is not there in the actions of those who are fighting for the rights of black people, or against the tyranny of fascist bastards you fucking lied for years about being rare as Unicorns.
You shielded them.
You hid them as friends on your Parler account and tried to pretend that any fighting fascism or racism should be mocked .
And names?
How many names have you used for four years ? how many times have you gas lighted people for four years. I am happy to fight back but what about those not so eager , how many of them have you and your far right heroes cowered into silence?
And you want to question the semantics of your man child President inciting violence as though winning is everything?
Sound familiar?
Last week was just a dry run. Your brand of far right zealots are a lethal bunch who everyone should be wary of, along with those excusing and enabling them.
I would start another thread called "Looking Objectively at Trump"... but #1 there's already way too many political threads, and #2 it would be like pissing into the wind anyway, so...
But here is the long and short of it.
People in the U.S. were rightly sick and tired of the old establishment politicians, who are nothing but smooth talkers and very little "doing." They were tired of politicians tied to powerful special interest groups and big business. They've been ready for something different a LONG TIME AGO. In comes Trump, with impeccable timing. THAT much, you should give the guy. He came along at the right time, singing the song that everyone wanted to hear. He said the "right things", such as wanting to "drain the swamp"... and people gobbled it up gleefully. Although filthy rich, he spoke like the average street guy and had a "rah-rah" style many liked. For better or for worse, he was already well-known, and was of "Celebrity Apprentice" fame. He's a New Yorker, like many like to say on here, which meant to say he shoots from the hip. He was the "thumb-nosing" from the U.S. public to the Washington establishment.
I get all that.
But...
He proved himself a liar from the get-go. His fragile ego allowed him to get dragged into tussles with relative nobodies. Imagine the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation getting into petty Twitter wars with the forklift operator at one of his warehouses. Who TF does that?? Instead of wanting to unite the people (remember... his beef was with Washington)... he threw gasoline on the fire between his fans and his critics. He took nepotism to never before seen levels. He rewarded kiss-asses... and discredited and tried to destroy those who dared to disagree. He brought his "know-it-all" personality to the White House... and comically declared himself expert on every subject except for maybe brain surgery and quantum physics. Whether racist or not... (and people will argue this point till the cows come home)... he emboldened the White Supremacists, and gleefully sowed hatred toward groups other than white Anglo-Saxons. But forget all of his HUMONGOUS character shortcomings for a minute.
It's all in what you do, right?
The economy. The economy was in the progress of righting itself in the last half of the Obama administration. An economy, lest anyone forget, that Obama inherited at recession stage. Economic indicators were on their way up during the last two or three years before Trump took over. But like the skillful snakeoil salesman he is... he took 100% of the credit for the continued rise... never mind that he was technically riding Obama's coattails. Hell... every President does the same SHIT when they take over. Take undue credit for the good, and deflect blame for the bad. B-b-b-but........ wasn't Trump going to be different than any other politician?? Wasn't he going to "drain the swamp"?? So basically Trump took what every other smooth-talking politician does and took it to exponential levels. Finally... when COVID hit... Trump's mishandling of the pandemic magnified the crash of the economy... so there goes THAT fairy tale.
The wall. Another issue where arguments exist on both sides. But really..... is it REALLY necessary to invest billions upon billions upon billions of dollars in a medieval wall in order to control immigration? The short answer is NO. But Trump likes monuments on which he can put his name in big, bold letters. Besides... it's always been his way or the highway. So insist on the wall he did. How's THAT coming along? In most places... if you don't feel like scaling the wall, you just walk a few hundred yards and walk around it. Talk about a monumental waste of money incredibly needed elsewhere.
Obamacare. Trump's hate of Obama (must be because Obama can actually SPEAK like a President) runs so deep... Trump declared Obamacare trash and promised to replace it with something better. How's THAT one coming along? Four years... and NOTHING. Just a lot of empty rhetoric, and ignoring the will of the people, who overwhelmingly want and need a healthcare plan that takes care of the poor, who can't afford today's healthcare.
COVID. For months, Trump insisted that COVID was nothing but a flu... and that it would be gone by Good Friday... 4th of July... etc. When faced with the realization that it was in fact, more serious than he wanted to admit... he fumbled it about as bad as any President has fumbled anything else. I still remember him barking at the company executives to start up dormant manufacturing operations to hurry up and begin making respirators. You get in trouble at work... you go home and kick the dog. He intimated and contradicted health professionals... and just generally made an ass of himself (yet again).
The elections. Trump saw the handwriting on the wall A LONG TIME AGO. So he did what any person with an evil heart, an outsized ego, and a love of all the trappings of being President would've done. He began a smear campaign months and months ahead of time... making sure he accused every aspect of the process of being rigged. By that time, he had built enough emotional capital among his followers that he could've literally shot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and gotten away with it. So he prepared for what he knew would be a loss by smearing the process before it began. A brilliantly conceived, evil plan that has resulted in destroying what little opportunity for unity there might have been among the people. In his petulant, egocentric mind... he can't take a loss. So his strategy is that he didn't really lose... so he feels he can walk away with head held high. Who gives a fuck what he leaves behind.
So there it is. Again I point out that I've mentioned several of his "so-called" accomplishments. Feel free to disagree, of course.
But the reason why U.S. people came out in droves to vote was not because they loved Biden so much. But because they couldn't stomach another week of Trump... much less another four years.
Who is dictating terms? I'm asking for you to provide evidence to back up your claims so we might could have a discussion. If you want a discussion that is.....it doesn't fucking seem like you're keen on one.
So that's 0 calls for violence and 0 calls to storm the Capitol....thank you for confirming those FACTS.
He said the election was fraudulent and given the sketchiness of some polling places and the FACT that 0 was done to quell the feeling of sketchiness and that state Supreme Courts like in Pennsylvania just up and decided to change their election laws (not what a Supreme Court does typically....or rather EVER) yeah the feeling of "this isn't on the up and up" is grounded in reality. Yeah sure 81 Million people voted for Biden, sure thing, yeah sounds feasible, sounds plausible, seems VERY highly likely given his never being the darling of the Democrat party, given his NEVER being popular, given his NEVER being anything more than a gaffe machine AND Kamala Harris who couldn't even make it out of the gates. Yeah that seems to be a major league big time ticket......and how'd they do down ballot again? Oh yeah 0 for EVERYTHING oh except for the 2 Communists in Georgia who won the runoff :rolleyes:
"Continually justified attacks on Black people like you do, as though you were both the victims and Women, Minorities and Immigrants were constantly attacking white Christians like you, and so White terrorists that bomb and shoot innocent people were justified." ......what even is that fucking nonsense Beanz?
Fascist? So allow me to get this straight Trump is a fascist dictator who was kicked off of all social media platforms?
How fucking dumb do you have to be to believe that Beanz? Ayatollah Khameni is still on Twitter you fucking jackoff, China is well represented on Twitter, but nah yeah it's Donald Trump who poses the REAL threat.
You're an asshole and you make up for it by being dumb as a sack of hammers. Oh and your baseless accusations (from waaaaaay far away) of racism and fascism are noted, AGAIN for the millionth time.
It's also not a Republican vs. Democrat thing. I couldn't care less about the Parties themselves. In fact... one issue where I'm vehemently opposed to extreme leftist Democrats is their penchant for bending over for the LGBTQ pressure groups (from the 3rd letter of the acronym forward). It's about Trump. There are many fine Republican politicians out there. But unfortunately... many others either had "backbone extraction surgery", or are right up there with Brock in the nauseating flip-flopping department. And THAT, in my opinion, is causing a great deal of damage to the Republican Party. Many of them don't realize that in the world of "life after Trump", people are going to remember the pitiful, pathetic roles they played during this whole four-year nightmare.
I offered you a chance to talk face to face and you bottled it. Again and again you bottled it.
You do not seem to understand.
Most people understand how corrupt politics is, but you are here defending a continuation of that.
You always have done.
You and Walrus, and even Brock, are about as pro establishment as it comes.
Those who marched on and invaded the Capitol were defending Trump, not fighting for America or it's values.
You are supporting a celebrity TV star who has dragged the US through the mud and your white fragility is so bright it is blinding.
They are not accusations they are facts. You can not wait to blame anyone but the far right racists even when they gun down innocents. It is beyond mental and you think i have anger issues.
Fucking wake up man.
I just wanna know who are the miserable twats that carve their dear leaders name into the back of living Mammals down in Florida . I mean dude that's truly demented, hope they find them and strap anchors around their ankles.
Give it maybe 2,3 hrs before we hear it was actually Jimmy Carter or George Bushes fault.
Don't think it was Jimmy 'No Bone Spurs' Carter
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5737&stc=1
Damn you don’t stop. Your arguing with me when I was arguing with no one. Don’t demonize people because they think different than you. It’s a big world, there is a lot of different thought. In the end we are all getting on the same ship, we just take different boats along the way but there ain’t no denying the show has an end. Why are you so worked up about these issues that have no bearing on your life.
Oh Lyle. Still trusting the plan then. Oh dear. And this post seems full of murderous rage. And you're only going to get worse when in a few short days Joseph Robinette Biden Junior is inaugurated as your new President and Trump slinks off to his restaurant in Florida to spend more time with his lawyers.
Trump just incited a coup. He's spent months undermining the democratic foundations of the country because he lost the election and he caps it off with an attempt to overthrow the government. Of course people think he should be removed from office. Even senators and congressmen in his own party think he should resign and face charges.
This does not mean that anybody outside the conspiracy theory loonies think Biden won't be inaugurated. There's no question at all that in less than a Scaramucchi from now Joseph Robinette Biden Junior of Delaware will be sworn into office and gain control of the Trump administration records while Trump loses his legal immunity from prosecution and the ability to the various law enforcement agencies investigating him from obtaining his personal and business records. Only a few days to go.
Biden doesn't want anything to do with the impeachment. They're not going to be able to hold any trial until well after Trump has left office and with the passage of time it'll be impossible to get enough votes for impeachment.
At the same time what else do you do? Trump tried to overthrow the government. You can't not try and do something even though it's not helpful politically. There'll be somebody who comes along after Trump who is as fascist as Trump but who is actually competent. If they think they can do anything they want up to and including overthrow the government and nobody will even attempt to bring charges it's inviting disaster.
The mindset will indeed linger on. The guy who in a few days be the second highest ranking GOP elected official in the country is saying you can't impeach him, if you do it's just going to make our supporters more violent. They're saying let's not bicker and argue about who killed who, we need to unify, and over a hundred and fifty of them voted not to certify the election results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05eFDQnSfE&ab_channel=MatthewSchroebel
Maybe if the top GOP officials stopped implicitly threatening violence if the Democrats want to try and hold Trump accountable for attempting a fucking coup and all came out and admitted there was no voter fraud and Trump lost the election fair and square there'd be a path forward here but that isn't going to happen, is it.
There's going to be an explosion of radical white nationalist terrorism over the next few months and years. White people who can't deal with the fact that their country is becoming more diverse and they're losing their place at the top of the tree are being radicalised in their thousands by dangerous extremist leaders and the deluge of craziness on the internet. The hate and the violence are only going to get worse in the future and the GOP are now too scared of their own crazy base to do anything about it. Things do not look good.
A white man who deliberately sped his car through a crowd of racial injustice protesters in Iowa City, striking several, will avoid prison and have the incident erased from his record if he stays out of trouble for three years.
A judge last month granted a deferred judgment for Michael Ray Stepanek, 45, who told police he drove his Toyota Camry through the crowd in August because the protesters needed “an attitude adjustment.”
The sentence means a felony charge of willful injury resulting in bodily injury against Stepanek will be dismissed and expunged, as long as he does not commit a crime during a three-year term of probation. Judge Paul Miller also suspended a $1,025 civil fine.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwe...pca-story.html
This ISIS terror tactic is quite a common thing with American white nationalist terrorists these days. These are guys sitting in their cars who are so overcome with hate at minorities demonstrating for racial justice that they drive their cars into them. There is a tremendous level of hate out there and it's being amplified by extremist politicians and the internet. It would maybe be a good idea if the justice system took it as seriously as other major crimes:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/10/u...eal/index.html
Maybe these racial justice protestors have a point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2utv5bad3A
Hooray more censorship from the left.
Why aren’t cnn and msnbc and everyone else playing loops of Trump telling these people to storm the capital? Are they hiding the tapes from the public? I demand to see it. The words should be heard all over the world, over and over again, on and endless loop.
WEll, everyone clearly "heard" him say it, what is wrong with you. Everywhere you look they are "looping". He clearly said "Storm that building with violence, overthrow the US Govt, I am your Fuehrer." Dont act like you never heard it. WTF. Next you'll say Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, and 12 other US Senators and 144 US House Representatives werent constitutionally allowed to raise objections in the chamber. They just stood up in a fascist manner right there in the chamber, and opened their fascist mouths and spouted some bullshit, how dare they, erase them from history, quick. I owe @El Kabong $10 for the following usage:
No doubt they were B.F.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vF66CsYEnc
more patriots in NYC than you can imagine: CHUCK SCHUMER GETS DESTROYED TODAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21lvRCV4Ae0
Thats where I'm at with it, the fact it'll bleed out beyond a new administration and ultimately we see the same result. Of course it needs to happen and I believe the charge is more than just. But this will maintain a stage and even be turned a 'victory'. Clean cut, let him stew and have no center focus after the 20th. And I wouldn't rule McCarthy out completely if there was more time. Hey the #3 said she's voting. Stand up and be counted or forever risk your name tied to the feared chaos to come.
He did. This has all been a shit storm of the horizon collection pieces from day 1. A lot of people called it out, saw the low ball deceptions and manipulations and basic disregard for anything deemed a pillar norm of this Nation. He's been working to uproot and destabilize key agencies the Pentagon etc and frankly some Conservative principles from day 1. I think we remain a learning Nation and if this reality TV experiment con man has accomplished anything it's open eyes, some sooner than others and with different visions and some for the better. The gig is up and he may very well serve as the inadvertent enima flushing out the Republican Party if it hopes to survive even though he's been the one piling up the shat in the first place. The rhetoric and lies all came to a head. I do not fear that this Country will sleep walk into another delusional fascist after this. The real complicity has been the GOP and the 140+ who whored themselves out and betrayed democracy serving up the self entitled insanity as certainty. They may want to inherit a base but we're in a wake up call right now. And frankly now that his name, literally, is flying over their heads and a massive portion of base is supporting a clear criminal insurrection. That base too will fracture..started a while ago. A lot of these "patriots" are doing a mighty fine job at emulating the 'dreaded Antifa'. And what Republican is clamoring for the homegrown "anti American hey we kinda dig anarchy I guess ???" vote in the first place. He served his purpose and for that they are now the minority party across the board.
Yeh true, I haven't seen this much open racism, as a cracker myself, since the late 80's. I do steer away from casting the entirety of Trump voters as all racist knuckle draggers. Trump himself sure, but he tapped into discontent, disconnection and the middle man plight too. Millions. And yes absolutely the fear of racial demographic erosion is a part. We as a Country just have to be honest about that and it's why immigration was his crutch imo. The brown menace was a constant. But my man I have faith in us. I really do. Tempers are flaring and we have a hole to dig out of morally and mentally but I do not see us going all streets of Venezuela or all out Red Dawn redux after this week. I don't dismiss extremist who are looking for a do-over. Shit will pop off here and there short term but Trumpism will not be the literal burndown of us.
As far as the impeachment thing goes I think there's going to be a huge amount of stuff that comes out over the next few months that takes peoples' breath away. We only know a fraction of the story. If Trump doesn't end up being found guilty at an impeachment trial then they can ban him from ever holding office again apparently. I think that's what will happen.
An example of what I'm on about:
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/statu...99144288718849
Also:
https://twitter.com/timjhogan/status...57507007827968
As far as America settling down when Biden takes office, I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one:
Another GOP House member flew home expecting to be greeted by concerned constituents after he endured the attack last week. Instead, what he and GOP colleagues heard chilled them to the core: “Do you think that Congress got the message?”
There is particular fear among Republicans in Trump-heavy districts who voted against the GOP’s doomed bid to overturn the election results. Many came home last week to find constituents — preachers, school superintendents, churchgoing men and women — cheering on the effort rather than condemning it, according to multiple GOP lawmakers.
“Both parties have extremists,” said the GOP lawmaker. “There's a difference in our crazy people and their crazy people. Our crazy people have an excessive amount of arms. They have gun safes. They have grenades. They believe in the Second Amendment. They come here and Trump's made them think this is the Alamo.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...l-riots-457868
Fox news is mainly to blame for this and people who can't put things in context. All these people were fed years of propaganda about Obama and how he was going to destroy America and they spent eight years terrorised by Fox and talk radio and all the rest of it. You would think Sleepy Joe wouldn't be so easy to demonise what with him not being a Kenyan Muslim and having a decades long record of moderate non socialist behaviour. Just you watch. Just give it a month or three after the election and see where we're at. Even if Fox did feel bad about how theyhandled Obama then Trump they've permanently radicalised their base now to such an extent they can't step back or the base will just switch to Newsmax or something equally crazy that will tell them what they want to hear. I really do think things are going to get a lot worse.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
https://twitter.com/jorge_guajardo/s...72748585381889
America snubbed by Luxembourg. Four years of Trump and Luxembourg turn you down. It's so small I drove past it once and I was looking for it.
The latest with the pardon situation:
https://twitter.com/DraperRobert/sta...91625054343168
Trump must be absolutely terrified about losing legal immunity and the power to keep his records away from the prosecutors. I bet every day now the Oval Office is like that scene from Downfall that gets parodied. Speaking of which we 're due one of them at least no? They have so much material to work with.
2021 politics:
https://twitter.com/McCormackJohn/st...74076279713793
They've closed the Washington Monument due to threats from right-wing American extremists. Not al-Qaeda. Not the Taliban. Not ISIS. American right-wing extremists.
https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/sta...88180644630529
Jeremiah Johnson prophesied Trump would win in 2020, got it wrong, and apologized -- noting that Trump was prideful and the church wrongly put Trump on a pedestal. Look at this message. This is what happened. The sickness is in the church real and widespread. I've seen this also:
https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/sta...05892994420749
"The problem is they were complicit in The Big Lie," @SenToomey
says of House Republicans, including @GOPLeader
, who went along with the idea that President Trump might have won the election
https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1348276471182336001
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/stat...52784532250626
But as senators and House members trapped inside the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday begged for immediate help during the siege, they struggled to get through to the president, who — safely ensconced in the West Wing — was too busy watching fiery TV images of the crisis unfolding around them to act or even bother to hear their pleas.
“He was hard to reach, and you know why? Because it was live TV,” said one close Trump adviser. “If it’s TiVo, he just hits pause and takes the calls. If it’s live TV, he watches it, and he was just watching it all unfold.”
Even as he did so, Trump did not move to act. And the message from those around him — that he needed to call off the angry mob he had egged on just hours earlier, or lives could be lost — was one to which he was not initially receptive.
“It took him awhile to appreciate the gravity of the situation,” Graham said in an interview. “The president saw these people as allies in his journey and sympathetic to the idea that the election was stolen.”
Trump ultimately — and begrudgingly — urged his supporters to “go home in peace.” But the six hours between when the Capitol was breached shortly before 2 p.m. Wednesday afternoon and when it was finally declared secure around 8 p.m. that evening reveal a president paralyzed — more passive viewer than resolute leader, repeatedly failing to perform even the basic duties of his job.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d6_story.html
Ask Trump what is going on on twitter.
Oh yes, I forgot he was taken off it.
And that means WHAT exactly for you?
Have you even bothered to think that far ahead? Did YOU elect Jack Dorsey? Did YOU vote for Mark Zuckerberg? I sure as shit didn't and them removing not only President Trump's personal account but locking the @potus account too....that doesn't bode well for ANYONE in the future.
Look at Hong Kong. That's coming for all of us and you don't care just so long as Trump gets it first? :shakehead: