Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Tyson fans always say the same thing. "None of his losses came in his prime" But honestly when was the guys prime? I mean listening to some Tyson fans its like the guy had a 18 month period of time where he was in his mythical unbeatable prime. You can't have it both ways. Either the guy's fragile mental and emotional state kept him from ever capitalizing on his great physical gifts or he simply was never as great as many thought and lost fights when he was still very close to his best. Regardless you can't ignore what a fragile psyche Tyson had. All the "if he'd done this or done that" is crap. Tyson's personality makeup led him to making all of the bad decisions that culminated in the tailspin his career endured. Being a fighter takes a very particular type of person. Focus, discipline and dedication are just as important as great hand speed, power and chin. I mean honestly you make the same argument for lots of fighters. Take Bowe for instance. The night he first became champ he looked like the greatest HW of all time. So hey if the guy just could passed on a couple of cupcakes and spent a little more time in the gym he would never have lost. The point is he didn't have the dedication to be a great HW and his career went to shit. Tyson obviously didn't have the desire or focus and ultimately was missing a big part of what makes great champions. Heart, Determination and an almost masochistic work ethic.
That is where you are wrong. The thing is that Tyson accomplished all that was possible after beating Spinks and he had happened to be very young at the time. Though still in his physical priome, his mental prime there was really no reason to go on. So basically after Spinks "what was he fightiong for"
So for you to say Tyson "obviously" had no heart and desire etc is all bullshit! He just accomplished all you could and had no more mountains to climb. But he kept fighting, got beat. That simple he had NO motivation after that point.
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
I dont care who he fought or didnt ,
It was just amazing to see his speed and strength, there has never been a fighter looking as good as that in the ring, you could just tell back then he was invincible.
Tyson by Ko
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by Poom
I dont care who he fought or didnt ,
It was just amazing to see his speed and strength, there has never been a fighter looking as good as that in the ring, you could just tell back then he was invincible.
Tyson by Ko
yes there has ali vs clevend williams ali looked like poetry in motion in that fight
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Poom
I dont care who he fought or didnt ,
It was just amazing to see his speed and strength, there has never been a fighter looking as good as that in the ring, you could just tell back then he was invincible.
Tyson by Ko
yes there has ali vs clevend williams ali looked like poetry in motion in that fight
yeah we can all find one fight. Gatti looked like Pernell Whitaker in the Ward rematch after all ;)
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well i havent really seen anything special when i watch tyson fight spinks either all i see is spinks was scared shitless before he even entered the ring tyson had decent power good headmovment and good speed ill give him that if u guys and girls like his skills i have no problem with that its just ive never really liked him and i dont believe in this unbeatable nonsense either
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I Think Tyson Is A Badass even though i dont like the inside fighters but he is one of my favorites.
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Re vanchilds comments... looks like this post has died but i liked your comments..shows some thoughfulness.....mindyou...im drunk...
I think the hardest thing for tyson was the style..the upper body bob and weave takes HUGE energy and is really hard to maintain as you age and fights go into later rounds. What about this though,how good did buster douglas look in his tyson fight?? he was really good!! fight of his life , i think that night he could have beaten anyone. He looked good,fast,tireless. Admittedly tyson was a mess mentally but still credit where credit is due.
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tyson backs lewis up all night long just like he did with smith,tuckerand green and tucker was better than lewis.tyson wins easy UD if not mid KO
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Tyson was lucky that Lewis is a bit older so in other words he was past his prime as well.
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
Everyone always go's on about how Tyson never fought neone like Lewis in his prime, and its the same vice versa....A prime Tyson was FAR better then anyone Lewis ever fought and i think he would be too much. Tyson mid to late rounds stoppage.
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Everyone always go's on about how Tyson never fought neone like Lewis in his prime, and its the same vice versa....A prime Tyson was FAR better then anyone Lewis ever fought and i think he would be too much. Tyson mid to late rounds stoppage.
ray mercer was bit similar to tyson but mercer had better chin than tyson but tyson had alot more headmovement and speed than mercer but at end of the day i think lewis would win but who knows anything can happen in boxing
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Everyone always go's on about how Tyson never fought neone like Lewis in his prime, and its the same vice versa....A prime Tyson was FAR better then anyone Lewis ever fought and i think he would be too much. Tyson mid to late rounds stoppage.
ray mercer was bit similar to tyson but mercer had better chin than tyson but tyson had alot more headmovement and speed than mercer but at end of the day i think lewis would win but who knows anything can happen in boxing
Ray Mercer isnt in the same league as a prime Mike.
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Everyone always go's on about how Tyson never fought neone like Lewis in his prime, and its the same vice versa....A prime Tyson was FAR better then anyone Lewis ever fought and i think he would be too much. Tyson mid to late rounds stoppage.
ray mercer was bit similar to tyson but mercer had better chin than tyson but tyson had alot more headmovement and speed than mercer but at end of the day i think lewis would win but who knows anything can happen in boxing
Ray Mercer isnt in the same league as a prime Mike.
Yeah I second that! I still feel Tyson around 87/88 KO's Lewis
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
prime tyson as in 19 straight KO's? youngest heavyweight champ ever?
against prime lennox lewis?
just my 2 cents...
lewis is counting lights in under 4.
Re: prime tyson vs prime lewis
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Originally Posted by fightinfireman
prime tyson as in 19 straight KO's? youngest heavyweight champ ever?
against prime lennox lewis?
just my 2 cents...
lewis is counting lights in under 4.
umm nah if tony tucker could go 12 round with prime tyson and win 4 rounds against him im sure lewis could do better
