Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Here we go again...with my overly critical opinion.
I thought that this guy gave Cotto issues...has Cotto retained his power at this weight or was Urkal just that strong?
Cotto vs Judah? Bad fight for Cotto to take, IWO.
Judah's speed might be a factor against Cotto.
Thoughts?
Urkal is just a tough SOB.
If you watch the Chop-Chop vs Cotto fight, you might think Cotto will be in a bit of trouble.
Chop was fast, elusive, south paw, hurt Cotto at least twice and IMO Chop does not hit as hard as Zab.
It is still a fight I want to see. Zab gave Floyd fits the first 5 rounds. It will be interesting to see how Cotto deals with some one this fast.
I just want to see Cotto fight the best.
The question is who has the glassier chin between Cotto and Zab.
I call this bout the fight of the questionable chins :)
Does Cotto still have his power? Yes. Just look at Quintana. The thing is now Cotto is being accused of hitting people in the back. And I won't deny it. Some are legal while others are a bit more deliberate and not legal.
Kostya Tszyu was unable to dispose of Urkal so we have to say he is a pretty tough customer.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
Nothing wrong with Cotto there, I thought he was terrific.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
Cotto is not ready for Mayweather...its that simple.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
Cotto is not ready for Mayweather...its that simple.
Agreed 100%.
I aint so sure that he's ready for a focused Judah.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
deserves a shot...who is cotto?his first million dollar payday was against Malignaggi...so lets not make it seem like he is a golden child
What do purses have to do with anything?
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
Amat you said that zab doesnt deserve a shot with cotto...What does he gain by fighting cotto other than money?Especially after Cotto's showing tonight.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
Actually BoomBoom said that. But I agree.
Regardless of how he looked tonight, Cotto is still one of the hottest fighters in all of boxing. He's P4P top 10 and undefeated. And he improves every fight (haven't seen him tonight), how can you honestly pose that question? Zab has a ton to gain by fighting Cotto. For 1, he is fighting Pito his next fight, a pretty good lightweight 4 years ago. That shows how far Zab has fallen. He's lost 2 of his last 3 fights, one to Carlos Baldomir. He has had horrible outings against average fighters in the past while Cotto is a star on the rise.
If he beats Cotto he gains a ton of legitimacy again. You can't honestly think that Cotto brings nothing to the table for Zab. I'll give you one more. When Cotto faces a journeyman, HBO travels to Puerto Rico to cover it. Zab is fighting in the states on ESPN 2. But of course Zab has nothing to gain.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
If zab beats cotto...whats next?what top name fighter is he gonna have a chance to fight?I don't see him climbing that high on the rankings either way.Cotto improves every fight?How?He takes BIG shots in every fight and shows the same mistakes everytime he fights!You talk about cotto fighting on HBO..wow...its not PPV.Zab also doesnt have top rank promotions either.Thats just politics.Zab is gonna earn a little money from the cotto fight.If Zab whens...do you honestly think that they will rank him top 10 p4p.NOOOO
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
Cotto is going to crush Zab, I can't believe what I'm hearing, what did Cotto do that was so wrong tonight, he was excellent.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Originally Posted by amat
Regardless of how he looked tonight, Cotto is still one of the hottest fighters in all of boxing. He's P4P top 10 and undefeated. And he improves every fight (haven't seen him tonight), how can you honestly pose that question? Zab has a ton to gain by fighting Cotto. For 1, he is fighting Pito his next fight, a pretty good lightweight 4 years ago. That shows how far Zab has fallen. He's lost 2 of his last 3 fights, one to Carlos Baldomir. He has had horrible outings against average fighters in the past while Cotto is a star on the rise.
If he beats Cotto he gains a ton of legitimacy again. You can't honestly think that Cotto brings nothing to the table for Zab. I'll give you one more. When Cotto faces a journeyman, HBO travels to Puerto Rico to cover it. Zab is fighting in the states on ESPN 2. But of course Zab has nothing to gain.
:coolclick: Totally agree...but Judah may still have enough to give Cotto some troubles...atleast for the first 5 rounds.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
Actually Miranda showed me more in the face of adversity then Cotto did tonight(but Cotto was expected to walk through) but that fight showed that Cotto may not be as mentally tough as once thought...
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Here we go again...with my overly critical opinion.
I thought that this guy gave Cotto issues...has Cotto retained his power at this weight or was Urkal just that strong?
Cotto vs Judah? Bad fight for Cotto to take, IWO.
Judah's speed might be a factor against Cotto.
Thoughts?
Urkal is just a tough SOB.
If you watch the Chop-Chop vs Cotto fight, you might think Cotto will be in a bit of trouble.
Chop was fast, elusive, south paw, hurt Cotto at least twice and IMO Chop does not hit as hard as Zab.
It is still a fight I want to see. Zab gave Floyd fits the first 5 rounds. It will be interesting to see how Cotto deals with some one this fast.
I just want to see Cotto fight the best.
The question is who has the glassier chin between Cotto and Zab.
I call this bout the fight of the questionable chins :)
Does Cotto still have his power? Yes. Just look at Quintana. The thing is now Cotto is being accused of hitting people in the back. And I won't deny it. Some are legal while others are a bit more deliberate and not legal.
Kostya Tszyu was unable to dispose of Urkal so we have to say he is a pretty tough customer.
Yeah but Vivian Harris was. And this Urkal is older.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Actually Miranda showed me more in the face of adversity then Cotto did tonight(but Cotto was expected to walk through) but that fight showed that Cotto may not be as mentally tough as once thought...
Here I gotta totally disagree.
Cotto didn't really retaliate like most fighters do against someone that fights as dirty as Urkal did...& he was dirty. Really REALLY used his head. The ref missed a lot of it. Once cut...Cotto lost focus...but pretty much all fighters do.
Miranda needs to learn to utilize his jab & box more.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Actually Miranda showed me more in the face of adversity then Cotto did tonight(but Cotto was expected to walk through) but that fight showed that Cotto may not be as mentally tough as once thought...
And what exactly was wrong with Cotto mentally?
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
Styles make fights. I think, and again I haven't seen this fight, that you could go into a fight scared of Cotto and not really give him any clean openings while going into a fight with a guy named Vivian would have you considerably less scared and more open.
He went into a shell versus Tszyu after an awesome first 6 rounds of the fight so what I am hearing does not surprise me.
