Guerrero - UD
Valero - TKO
Pavlik - TKO
Martirosyan - TKO
Soto - TKO - star
Cermano - joker
Guerrero - UD
Valero - TKO
Pavlik - TKO
Martirosyan - TKO
Soto - TKO - star
Cermano - joker
Guerrero ud
Valero ko/tko joker
Pavlik ko/tko
Martiroysan ko/tko
Soto ko/tko
Cermeno points
Thanks to BG for another great Comp
and good luck to those in the running for this rather special title
Happy christmas to everyone
Fernando Guerrero -ud
Edwin Valero -ko/tko (joker)
Kelly Pavlik -ko/tko
Vanes Martirosyan -ko/tko
Humberto Soto -ko/tko (STAR)
Nehomar Cermeno -ud
Guerrero - UD
Valero - KO 3 (Joker)
Pavlik - KO 6
Martirosyan - KO
Soto - KO
Cermeno - UD
Guerrero UD
Valero KO7
Pavlik KO8
Martirosyan KO3... JOKER
Soto KO9... STAR
Cermeno UD
Chur BG
This was intended as a PM, but I am unable to send one, as my post count has not reached 30. So, I am posting it here.
Fatsandman
Thanks for your kind words. This season has been very hard, Basher and you are impressive players. I am used to win the "Gurus del boxeo" contest quite easily, but this league is a large step up.
This weeks has 6 fights, so you have a fair chance to catch me. By the way, what happens if we finish tied?
You should keep your picks secret this week. Otherwise, the mean guy in me might just copy your picks, screwing you :)
Regards from Mexico
and good luck
Comegalletas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatsandman
Thank god this stupid season is over.
Guerrero - KO 1
Valero - KO 2 (J)
Pavlik - KO 3
Martirosyan - KO 4
Soto - KO 5
Cermeno - KO 6
fernando guerrero ud;D
edwin valero ko4 joker:jester-new:;D
kelly pavlik ko6;D
vanes martirosyan ko1;D
humberto soto ko10 star;D
nehomar cermeno ud;D
tnx boxinggorilla
;)
guerrero ud
valero tko (star)
martirosyan tko
soto tko
cermano pts (joker)
Guerrero v. Nicklow — Guerrero TKO 4
Valero v. Velazquez — Valero TKO 3 (*JOKER*)
Pavlik v. Espino — Pavlik TKO 7
Martirosyan v. Lee — Martirosyan TKO 6
Soto v. Chavez — Soto UD (*STAR*)
Cermeno v. Valdez — Cermeno UD
Final Week Results
Guerrero TKO4
Valero TKO6
Pavlik TKO5
Martirrosyan TKO3
Soto UD
Cermeno KO11
Galaxy 49
Gest 49
JakeAMeyers 47
Basher 46
JazMerkin 46
Nameless 46
FatSandman 43
RyanMan 43
Comegalletas 39
SuperHeavyRhun 39
Miron-Lang 37
BoxingGorilla 36
CFH 36
Chip 36
KKisser 36
TigerFan 36
ViolentDemise 35
Z Bolt 30
FightFan 29
IWNG 28
CPSS 27
Fenster 25
Otley 25
Starlet 25
OumaFan 22
Well thats it then. I had 2 decent weeks to finish. I could have been up there other than for missing weeks etc. Next time...
Anyway thanks BG for all the work. My first time taking part, really enjoyed it.
Hi BG
Great league mate!
Sorry to question your scoring on the last week but in last weeks leaderboard I was 6 points behind Comegal (he was on 531 and I was on 525).
This week I scored 46 and comegal scored 39 which should make me the winner by 1 point.
Am I right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatsandman
You had 43 points. Not sure why I had you down as 46 on the weekly list. You actually added up your score and got 46, like I mistakingly did? Madness.
Anyway, I sent your picks to Saddo and CutMeMick for verification. I sent Comegalletas-sis-is as well.
Yep, sorry BG. I was just going from the weekly points above. Just added it up myself and got 43 too.
Well done Comegalletas! Amazing player!!
See you next league.....
I just want to thank everyone for making their picks every week. I know it's hard enough to remember, let alone be at the mercy of the technology gods.
It was my first participation and I quite enjoyed it, thanks Gorilla.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Congratulations Comegalletas, hard luck fatsandman, another good season.... I'm aiming for top 5 in the new year! :p
Thanks for the congratulations. This was my first season here, and it was a great ride. My hat off to FatSandman, who came really close to win.
To present myself, I live in Monterrey, Mexico. I enjoy a lot watching boxing, but many of you know far more than me. In the other hand, I have a deep statistical background, having adapted the Elo rating system used in chess to other sports.
This year I started playing in a similar contest to this one, "Gurus del Boxeo". In the last two seasons I have won handily, so I came here to test me against a thougher opposition. I was pretty confident that I would end winning, but after seeing the high level here, I guess my chances to repeat the championship are no higher than 40%.
About the contest format, I really like the joker pick. It makes each week more variable, but in the long run the better players come ahead.
On the other hand, I find the "post your picks" system clumsy. It is a grind for the admin (Kudos, BG!), and it is prone to mistakes. During this season twice I got more points than the correct number, and had to contact BG to fix it. In Gurus we have an automated system, it is much better. I guess Saddoboxing should write its own script. If the problem is money, I would be happy to donate my prize to start the work.
I have collected all my picks and FatSandman's in a spreadsheet, to be sure that the totals are right. And indeed, the final difference is 2 points. You can see it at:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...yb2N3c0E&hl=es
(I do not have the last week picks by FatSandman, but he confirmed his total as 43).
I played well, but in the first months I was too "UD" happy. It costed me a few points, and I had to adjust the model. FatSandman a few times picked specific KO rounds, which I see as a losing proposition. He lost 9 points that way; had he picked simply "KO", he would be the winner now.
Thanks again for this great tournament. I have a few rules suggestions for the next season, I will post them in a later post. For now, it is time to celebrate :)
See you next season
Comegalletas.
Congrats on the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comegalletas
whoever one well done and i am happy first time and just under 500 pts and i missed a week and many thanks for taking the time to sort it all out
After my first season in Saddoboxing Prediction Contest, I have a few suggestions:
A.- Things that just need to be documented in the rules:
1.- Technical Decisions. A TD is also considered a UD (or MD, SD)? I guess it should, but it is not currently stipulated one way or the other by the rules.
2.- No Contest. Which is the time limit to allow for a NC? The fight night decision stands, or there is a time window to change it? Most after-fight NC are for doping tests, but there are others that could took several weeks, as Bradley - Campbell. Any reasonable rule is OK (night result stands, two days, one week, the duration of the season); but it has to be clearly stipulated. Also, what happens with the joker in NC fights? 3 points sounds fair.
3.- The "Points" result. Sometimes there are only one judge in UK fights, so the decision cannot be graded UD, SD, MD. In such cases, I guess the correct procedure is to convert any UD, MD and SD prediction into Pts, earning 6 points.
4.- Final tie. What happens if two players finish the season with the same points? I guess an extra week should be used to break the tie between them. Again, it would be good to have it documented.
5.- Drawn fights. Currently the rule states: "Should your fighter of choice go down in flames no points you will be awarded.". It ought to say "Should your fighter of choice draws or go down in flames no points you will be awarded.".
All these points are fairly easy to implement, as they does not change the contest as it is currently run.
B.- More significant changes:
1.- Point weighting. Currently the points assigned to differen choices are skewed to the conservative side. The vanilla "Pts" and "KO/TKO" are most often the best value at 6 points each. The only risky proposition that is fair value is UD at 8 points. SD, MD, TD, DQ and Draw are losing propositions. The same goes for KO; picking a round is usually a bad bet. Maybe they should get more points, but it has to be carefully designed. The other thing that sounds bad is "If you just type the name of the winning fighter you will score 1 point"; it should be at least 3 points.
2.- Script: I think that a script would make easier and less error prone the administration of the contest. Saddo looked at it, and said he prefers the forum method, as it is more presonal. That is OK, I hope we have a BoxingGorilla for many seasons :)
Regards,
Comegalletas
If it wasn't for the two Split Decisions I picked in the final week of league 7 I wouldn't have won. SD isn't always a losing proposition ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Comegalletas
Of course, any proposition has to be evaluated with its odds. If you bet Pacquiao to beat Mayweather laying 2 to 1, it is a bad bet. Even if it ends winning, the odds are against you, and in the long run such bets will cost you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatsandmanIf it wasn't for the two Split Decisions I picked in the final week of league 7 I wouldn't have won. SD isn't always a losing proposition ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Comegalletas
The same happens with MD and SD predictions. SD gets 10 points; any Pts give 6. So, if you fail with the SD label, you lose 3 points, if you get it right, it rewards you 4 points. So, you need a 3/7 possibility of a SD, or 42.8% to break even. In my view, not any fight can have such a high possibility of a decision being split. My estimation is about 25%, maybe even less.
Of course, in the last week of a season the game has a different dynamic. Then, you can gamble to have a shot to the championship. So, a SD, a KO1 or any other "bad value" bets are useful plays. I am sure you are referring to there bets. So, you are right in that special situation.
i proposed sd and md be bunch together like the ko/tko rule. it gets frustrating when you feel it's going to be a close fight in favor of one fighter and when you predict an sd or an md then it goes the other way it just sucks. i think there's not much difference between the two anyways.