Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

Judge from Golovkin-Alvarez fight won't face formal sanction

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Right, I have calmed down a bit now so I can give my more rational thoughts on this fight

First, and most importantly ...... I really enjoyed the fight. Two elite level boxers going at it hammer and tongs, giving their best, respecting the opponent and leaving nothing behind in the ring.

I thought Canelo was superb. That was the best performance I've seen from him, and he proved to me that he is the real thing.

He definitely started better, he was calmer and more confident at the beginning and his boxing skills were excellent. He definitely did not look the smaller man in there at all.

I criticised his slow feet before the fight, but it was his smart footwork that made GGG follow him for the first 5 rounds rather than effectively cut off the ring.

He feinted and drew Golovkin superbly, and he had the technique to land easily the more eye catching shots. His hands were noticeably faster that GGG's too, and when he unloaded in combinations it was truly impressive. It did seem that (at times) he could hit Golovkin at will. He was never really hurt and showed a great chin.

I thought Golovkin looked very tense entering the ring, and he also started off strangely tentatively. All the talk of him implicitly trusting his chin and walking through people was clearly wrong as he did seem to have a bit too much respect for Canelos power early on.

By the 4th round, though, he had found his groove. He started to cut the ring off and he applied truly MASSIVE pressure on Canelo. He was in front of Alvarez for three minutes of every round, even running towards him on several occasions. This put Canelo into pure survival mode for large parts of the fight and I think he gassed out for most of the middle period.

GGG was absolutely relentless. The pressure was unbelievable. Alvarez landed his Sunday shots on him several times - and those are the same shots that have iced his previous opponents - and Golovkin didn't budge. Unbelieviable chin.

I thought Golovkin swept the 4th to the 10th pretty conclusively. He pressured, threw punches and landed more shots on an overwhelmed opponent. Canelo tried to survive and steal rounds, no shame in that but I really don't think he did enough.

Canelo saved some gas for a good finish, and I think his hand speed edged the last couple of rounds.

After an excellent fight, full value of money and conducted by two great pros .....neither guy had been seriously shaken or hurt .... and we were in that well-known territory whereby we had rounds that were quite divisive to score.

This was almost deja vu to Hagler versus Leonard.

We had a blue collar, fearsome destroyer who has dominated their division for years. Someone who never got the breaks on the way up and was constantly avoided...... versus the media darling moving up a weight, with flashy skills and the ability to generate many more ticket sales,

I thought GGG won the fight by two or three rounds, but that's maybe because I was already a big GGG fan and I was a bit biased. In that case, even if I conceded a couple of rounds to Canelo that I had awarded to GGG I accept it was a close fight. It definitely wasn't a 118-110 fight for either guy.

Strangely enough, this was the ideal result for GGG.

He is still the champion, still undefeated and with a much wider fan base now, probably included many New Mexican ones. If he had lost, he would never ever had a rematch as De la Hoya would have wanted no part of him.

If he had won, I still don't think he would have got Canelo back in the ring

Now, he most likely has fans clamouring for a rematch against the biggest PPV star out there. A guy he knows can't hurt him, who can't keep up with his relentless pace. Big money. Start faster and better and he can make the rematch a big drama show.

Before this fight, would GGG have sacrificed a draw, with many people giving him the moral victory, in return for a massive boost to his fan base and the opportunity to make another £15 million? I think so
sorry for the long post!

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Great post and I have to think hard to name some other fighters who can walk through shots that Golovkin can take.
He's like a Terminator

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Canelo landed more power punches and he landed at a far higher connect percentage. GGG was more marked up after the fight he was gifted a draw for sure, second time in a row he'd gotten away with it.

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Who the fook is that guy?

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Your boy got KO'ed last week so back to the MMA or gay porn forum's for you cock muncher X

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Wind your neck in Gamo, there won't be a second warning.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Anyone believe in a throw away card to distract from absurdity of draw in the first place? How many had it a draw???

basically a win win for Alvarez. Would like Golovkin to get a wild hair and tell rematch aka Canelo to sit in the back of the room while he takes lead. Basically it all resets.

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That's exactly what happened. Byrd did exactly what she was supposed to do with that card. Vegas is proud of her. Another massive event next Cinco.

Boxing judge Adalaide Byrd, who brought the sport into disrepute following Gennady Golovkin's title match with Canelo Alvarez, will not score a major title fight in the near future, the Nevada Athletic Commission has confirmed.

Many have called for the suspension of Byrd after she scored the world middleweight title fight 118-110 in favour of Mexican Alvarez, despite Golovkin landing significantly more punches than his opponent.
The other two judges scored the bout at 115-113 and 114-114 respectively, with many pointing to corruption as the reason behind Byrd's ludicrously lopsided scorecard.

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Byrd was reportedly in tears after learning of the furore her judgment had caused on Saturday evening, and Bob Bennett, the Nevada Athletic Commission executive director revealed she will not be considered for upcoming bouts.

'I'm not going to put her right back in,' Bennett told the Los Angeles Times.

'She'll still be in the business … but she needs to catch her breath. Like in any profession, you have a bad night.

'Unfortunately, she didn't do well. I can tell you she conducts training for us, takes judges under her wing… but her score was too wide.'

Golovkin and Alvarez are all set for a rematch following their controversial draw, with both fighters open to the prospect when asked after the final bell at the T-Mobile Arena.

The Mexican boxer's promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, revealed that his fighter had a clause built into his fight contract and he intends to invoke it.

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

is he getting banned?

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

is he getting banned?

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Why would he?

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

is he getting banned?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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Really? What was your scorecard

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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Really? What was your scorecard

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I haven't got one

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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Really? What was your scorecard

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I haven't got one

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So how do you know it's nowhere near a draw? Alvarez won the first two rounds and the last two without doubt, So that's four points for him straight away. Are you saying he didn't win anything from rounds 3-10? I think you're talking shit to be honest. It was close.

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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Really? What was your scorecard

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I haven't got one

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So how do you know it's nowhere near a draw? Alvarez won the first two rounds and the last two without doubt, So that's four points for him straight away. Are you saying he didn't win anything from rounds 3-10? I think you're talking shit to be honest. It was close.

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maybe it was a draw

from a post in this thread 90 odd % of respected people didn't think so

which strongly suggests it wasn't

and so both byrd and the other fella fucked up, sack them both

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what about the judge that scored it a draw?

is he getting banned?

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Why would he?

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nowhere near a draw

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Really? What was your scorecard

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I haven't got one

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So how do you know it's nowhere near a draw? Alvarez won the first two rounds and the last two without doubt, So that's four points for him straight away. Are you saying he didn't win anything from rounds 3-10? I think you're talking shit to be honest. It was close.

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maybe it was a draw

from a post in this thread 90 odd % of respected people didn't think so

which strongly suggests it wasn't

and so both byrd and the other fella fucked up, sack them both

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There is no sacking anyone for calling it a draw, the fight was close, although I had it 8-4 for GGG. Give 2 rounds of those to Canelo and it can be a draw.

@erics44 have you not seen the fight? Don't go from what people on here think because most of them picked GGG to win and are bias (either they love GGG or hate Canelo) watch the fight and make your own opinion... you might be surprised.

Priceless! 😂😂😂

@GaMo , before Saturday I thought GGG would win, I watched the fight as am almost complete neutral, but if I was supporting anyone it was Canelo (I had expressed this in a few threads on here)

I thought it was a very good fight, all this suggestion that canelo was running I really don't agree with, ok he was going backwards but he took a lot of chances to land his own punches

and he landed a lot of eye catching combinations

and you have to admire his toughness and his chin, he was clearly smaller than GGG and he took a lot of big punches but was never really phased by any of them and always came back and tried to land himself

BUT I thought GGG was the only winner in terms of punches landed and the way he controlled the action and the pace, I don't see how anyone could score it even

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@GaMo , before Saturday I thought GGG would win, I watched the fight as am almost complete neutral, but if I was supporting anyone it was Canelo (I had expressed this in a few threads on here)

I thought it was a very good fight, all this suggestion that canelo was running I really don't agree with, ok he was going backwards but he took a lot of chances to land his own punches

and he landed a lot of eye catching combinations

and you have to admire his toughness and his chin, he was clearly smaller than GGG and he took a lot of big punches but was never really phased by any of them and always came back and tried to land himself

BUT I thought GGG was the only winner in terms of punches landed and the way he controlled the action and the pace, I don't see how anyone could score it even

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Fair enough :) That sounds like a decent assessment of the fight. I'm going to get my hands on the HBO broadcast and watch it again whilst scoring it to see if my opinion has changed. I actually thought the drawn scorecard was fair and I was far more impressed with Canelo overall but I've only watched it the once.

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@GaMo , before Saturday I thought GGG would win, I watched the fight as am almost complete neutral, but if I was supporting anyone it was Canelo (I had expressed this in a few threads on here)

I thought it was a very good fight, all this suggestion that canelo was running I really don't agree with, ok he was going backwards but he took a lot of chances to land his own punches

and he landed a lot of eye catching combinations

and you have to admire his toughness and his chin, he was clearly smaller than GGG and he took a lot of big punches but was never really phased by any of them and always came back and tried to land himself

BUT I thought GGG was the only winner in terms of punches landed and the way he controlled the action and the pace, I don't see how anyone could score it even

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Fair enough :) That sounds like a decent assessment of the fight. I'm going to get my hands on the HBO broadcast and watch it again whilst scoring it to see if my opinion has changed. I actually thought the drawn scorecard was fair and I was far more impressed with Canelo overall but I've only watched it the once.

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You see @Master, that's how you play nicely! 😂

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Robinson always found a way to pull the fight out. Triple G struggled over the last three rounds and Canelo completely out hustled him and rounds 10 11 and 12 those are the championship rounds and a 12-round fight. Golovkin at no point in the fight at absolutely no point in the fight did Golovkin dominate over Canelo

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This dude knows fuck all about boxing

Byrd could easily have scored the fight 118-110 for Golovkin. But then she would have been banned. Or at least not picked for major events anymore. Vegas need reliable people in jobs like hers. Do you think the guy in charge of drug testing for the Nevada SAC wants to catch people? Imagine if somebody like Alvarez tested positive after a fight. Hey boss, guess who I caught, he'll be banned for a year at least! How long do you think he'd stay in his job?

Well, I've just watched the whole fight again with the sound down.

I purposely decided that I would mainly watch Canelo this time, just make sure I didn't miss any smart work and that I saw when he blocked GGG etc.

Even leaning slightly towards him, giving him rounds, and some rounds even when I would ordinarily give them to GGG .... I still ended up with Golovkin winning by two clear rounds. 116-114.

I genuinely cannot for the life of me see any way that could have been scored as Byrd did.

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Well, I've just watched the whole fight again with the sound down.

I purposely decided that I would mainly watch Canelo this time, just make sure I didn't miss any smart work and that I saw when he blocked GGG etc.

Even leaning slightly towards him, giving him rounds, and some rounds even when I would ordinarily give them to GGG .... I still ended up with Golovkin winning by two clear rounds. 116-114.

I genuinely cannot for the life of me see any way that could have been scored as Byrd did.

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That is official then. Byrd is corrupt as no one can be that incompetent.

So I'm late and finally get a chance to see it. Who unstickied the thread ;D. Have avoided all the chatter and even declined phone calls from angry friends at result. Seven rounds in easily 5-2 Golovkin. Lots of smoke and mirrors from Canelo trying to appear the fleet foot boxer and he goes dry along ropes, waits for Golovkin to pour on and he looks bothered. Golovkin work rate lacking until 4th on and jab under utilized. Bad body language from Canelo with the constant head shakes on ropes and hands dropped noticeably. Not over but anyone scoring this 118-110 is eating shrooms by the fist load.

Ended at 116-113 Golovkin. 10th was closest to me and scored even up. All in all Golovkin commanded the ring for me and think his punches jab included had effect on Canelo who was bike riding in spots hands down and wearing some fatigue I thought. And ffs someone tell Golovkin to stop being all Eddie Haskel, stop saying "big drama show" and get mean son. Good scrap and Canelo had a plan and stuck to it, frankly better body puncher mainly in 2nd but Golovkin dictated terms overall and that jab is a piston. Definitely not a 'draw' in terms of distribution of effective punching and moving the opponent to react. The 118-110 served as bit of a distraction in hindsight, had she scored it by one point to Canelo would this still be believable as a 'draw'? I don't think so at all but that's already been sorted out by many ;D. A rematch I'll pay for next time!

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Ended at 116-113 Golovkin. 10th was closest to me and scored even up. All in all Golovkin commanded the ring for me and think his punches jab included had effect on Canelo who was bike riding in spots hands down and wearing some fatigue I thought. And ffs someone tell Golovkin to stop being all Eddie Haskel, stop saying "big drama show" and get mean son. Good scrap and Canelo had a plan and stuck to it, frankly better body puncher mainly in 2nd but Golovkin dictated terms overall and that jab is a piston. Definitely not a 'draw' in terms of distribution of effective punching and moving the opponent to react. The 118-110 served as bit of a distraction in hindsight, had she scored it by one point to Canelo would this still be believable as a 'draw'? I don't think so at all but that's already been sorted out by many ;D. A rematch I'll pay for next time!

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You and your even rounds but have to admit 10th was probably the best round of the fight.