Today in Trump

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Trump Should Face Execution Over Alleged Nuclear Docs, Suggest Ex-CIA Chief & Others

I have been warning the Deep State may try to assassinate Trump as they grow more desperate

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Former CIA & NSA Director Michael Hayden and MSNBC contributor Michael Beschloss both posted tweets on Thursday promoting the execution of Donald Trump.

Beschloss posted an image of a couple named the Rosenbergs from the 1950s, noting they were executed after being convicted for giving the Soviets American nuclear documents.

In response to the news about potential nuclear-related documents in Trump’s possession, the 45th president issued a statement reading, “President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”

Former NYC Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, who recently told Americans the Deep State might try to kill Trump, posted a Fox News article about Hayden’s tweet.

“I told you it would come!” Kerik wrote.

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They should drag him out of his restaurant, force him to his knees and shoot him in the back of the head. He should die like a dog.

I'll settle for ten years in Leavenworth.

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

The goal of this ongoing war is to ruin both Trump and his family, salting the earth with their populist movement of Deplorables. Trump and his supporters must be destroyed politically (at the very least), ensuring Trump cannot run for president again but also that no candidate outside the uniparty’s acceptable parameters can ever run again. So one of the most important campaigns in America’s political war effectively seeks to criminalize a whole category of dissent—or at least place dissenters outside the bounds of acceptable society. If you doubt any or all of the 2020 presidential election results, you are an election denier. If you protested at the Capitol, you are an insurrectionist. If you question Russian collusion, you are a Putin supporter. And so forth.

We have not seen the FBI’s warrant or the supporting evidence presented to the magistrate. Was the raid an actual step toward a criminal prosecution? What were the actual crimes contemplated and the specific evidence sought? We don’t know, but at this point, it doesn’t matter. Merrick Garland surely knew Republican partisans would view the raid as pure political harassment, a warning to Trump, his family, and close associates. He also surely knew that many Democratic partisans hope to gin up legal arguments to disqualify the former president from running again (either under the Fourteenth Amendment or, more dubiously, under this federal statute). And of course he know a media brouhaha would ensue. So there are two broad but conflicting interpretations of Garland’s actions. First, he is a brave defender of the rule of law who doggedly follows the evidence wherever it goes, with no consideration for politics, appearances, or timing whatsoever. Second, he knew exactly how ardent Trump fans would react to the warrant and seizures, and actively intended this effect. In other words, he intended to send a threatening message and quell political enthusiasm for Trump 2024.

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I'm sure you just forgot to include the link. Far far too coherent and far too many big words for you to have come up with.

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Originally Posted by palmerq

Soni see trumps lawyer is claiming the documents were declassified, what an odd series of events, I guess we have to wait and see, as they've certainly removed documents marked top Secret..

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It was not declassified. There's a whole process you have to go through to declassify documents. Records are made and kept. None of the shit they found was declassified.

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

The goal of this ongoing war is to ruin both Trump and his family, salting the earth with their populist movement of Deplorables. Trump and his supporters must be destroyed politically (at the very least), ensuring Trump cannot run for president again but also that no candidate outside the uniparty’s acceptable parameters can ever run again. So one of the most important campaigns in America’s political war effectively seeks to criminalize a whole category of dissent—or at least place dissenters outside the bounds of acceptable society. If you doubt any or all of the 2020 presidential election results, you are an election denier. If you protested at the Capitol, you are an insurrectionist. If you question Russian collusion, you are a Putin supporter. And so forth.

We have not seen the FBI’s warrant or the supporting evidence presented to the magistrate. Was the raid an actual step toward a criminal prosecution? What were the actual crimes contemplated and the specific evidence sought? We don’t know, but at this point, it doesn’t matter. Merrick Garland surely knew Republican partisans would view the raid as pure political harassment, a warning to Trump, his family, and close associates. He also surely knew that many Democratic partisans hope to gin up legal arguments to disqualify the former president from running again (either under the Fourteenth Amendment or, more dubiously, under this federal statute). And of course he know a media brouhaha would ensue. So there are two broad but conflicting interpretations of Garland’s actions. First, he is a brave defender of the rule of law who doggedly follows the evidence wherever it goes, with no consideration for politics, appearances, or timing whatsoever. Second, he knew exactly how ardent Trump fans would react to the warrant and seizures, and actively intended this effect. In other words, he intended to send a threatening message and quell political enthusiasm for Trump 2024.

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BWAHAHAHA!

Boo hoo! Don't call a crime a crime, think of the treasonous bastards feelings, it's all everyone else's fault.

Personal responsibility? Rule of law?

Ha! What a load of horseshit.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Soni see trumps lawyer is claiming the documents were declassified, what an odd series of events, I guess we have to wait and see, as they've certainly removed documents marked top Secret..

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It was not declassified. There's a whole process you have to go through to declassify documents. Records are made and kept. None of the shit they found was declassified.

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Then Trump has performed an amazinglly baffling shooting of his own foot :S...what a guy

Obama records:

https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/statu...51577751490561


Shameful:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1558098474838671361


Fox identified the judge and where he lives as well:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...01892525428737


I agree:

https://twitter.com/BrendanBuck/stat...89447492042753



Things are not looking good for the Florida restauranteur. We're almost at the white Ford Bronco emerging from Mar A Lago stage now.


EDIT: Five hundred pages! I wonder how many more.

Brock, a lot to unpack in your last four posts.

First of all, I doubt the Deep State, the Shallow State, or any other State is going to actually try and kill Donald Trump. As to the Tweets of Hayden and Beschloss, they're not "promoting" anything, but rather mentioning what happened to a couple convicted of giving nuclear secrets to Russia back in 1953, a very sensitive and different time in U.S. history, I might add.

Was it in bad taste? Probably. Will anything come of it? Pleeeease....

Second of all, again with Alex Jones... :vd: That dumbass doesn't know the difference between his asshole and a hole in the ground. He can't make up his mind whether he loves Trump... hates Trump... loves Trump again... etc, etc.

You call him the founder of Infowars. I call him the world's biggest jackass.

But the "best" one is this one:

"If you protested at the Capitol, you are an insurrectionist."

Really?? :rolleyes:

As far as I knew, protests were held peacefully with people holding up signs and chanting.

No. This was a fucking riot. Of course, you had all the predictable GOP talking heads calling it a (cough, gag, choke) peaceful demonstration... a stroll near the Capitol. :D

You damn right you're (not you personally) an insurrectionist. Also a terrorist and a mindless Trump minion, who heeded your master's call and stormed the Capitol.... something UNHEARD of in the past.

Hey... I get it.

You voted for Jo Jorgensen. :smilie_pinoc: ;)

I don't like Biden either.

But I'll be damned if anyone lets Trump anywhere near the Presidential election in 2024.

Four years of this f*cking bozo has been more than enough.

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Trump Should Face Execution Over Alleged Nuclear Docs, Suggest Ex-CIA Chief & Others

I have been warning the Deep State may try to assassinate Trump as they grow more desperate

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Former CIA & NSA Director Michael Hayden and MSNBC contributor Michael Beschloss both posted tweets on Thursday promoting the execution of Donald Trump.

Beschloss posted an image of a couple named the Rosenbergs from the 1950s, noting they were executed after being convicted for giving the Soviets American nuclear documents.

In response to the news about potential nuclear-related documents in Trump’s possession, the 45th president issued a statement reading, “President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”

Former NYC Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, who recently told Americans the Deep State might try to kill Trump, posted a Fox News article about Hayden’s tweet.

“I told you it would come!” Kerik wrote.

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Infowars founder Alex Jones has also been warning his audience Trump’s life is in danger as the global elite grow more desperate in their attempts to derail his 2024 presidential aspirations.

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One of the most hilarious things that never seems to occur to you is that a guy born into obscene wealth with a gold toilet and gaudy crass huge temples to no taste all over the world with his name in huge letters on top of, pals with people like the Epsteins, House of Saud and the attitude that normal rules do not apply to him is not himself... Part of the elite...

Ha!

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Obama records:

https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/statu...51577751490561


Shameful:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1558098474838671361


Fox identified the judge and where he lives as well:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...01892525428737


I agree:

https://twitter.com/BrendanBuck/stat...89447492042753



Things are not looking good for the Florida restauranteur. We're almost at the white Ford Bronco emerging from Mar A Lago stage now.


EDIT: Five hundred pages! I wonder how many more.

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So basically the whatabout Obama'ism was horseshat? Who knew. Crazy when it's so easy to look at multiple sources and find out beyond our comfort bunkers. If ever I'm running to defend someone and the first examples to use are convicted felons who received a pardon from Perp-45 :scratchchin: and another just found liable for defamation and perjuring himself on a loop, it may be time to reevaluate my loyalties. Probably not the last case of a kook targeting law enforcement and fbi either after tying his lil trump flag around his neck and cutting off the oxygen. Even the guys own forum members turned him in ffs. Wake up sheeple.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Probably not the last case of a kook targeting law enforcement and fbi either after tying his lil trump flag around his neck and cutting off the oxygen. Even the guys own forum members turned him in ffs. Wake up sheeple.

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So while some wring their hands about Tweets mentioning a couple that was executed in 1953 for sharing nuclear secrets with the Soviets.......... there are real life kooks, as you well put it, running around posing real life threats to the FBI.
THAT... and numerous credible threats that have been received.

I think we need to keep our sense of perspective here.

wow five hundred pages. “Politics: the art of using euphemisms, lies, emotionalism and fear-mongering to dupe average people into accepting--or even demanding--their own enslavement.”

We’ve reached the stage of American history where everything we see on the news must first be understood as political theater. In other words, the messaging layer of news now almost always dominates the factual narrative, with the latter often reported so unreliably as to be meaningless anyway. The sensational tale of the FBI raiding the Mar-a-Lago home of former president Donald Trump is no different.

As of now, it’s impossible to say if Trump’s alleged offense was great, small, or in between. But this for sure is a huge story, and its hugeness extends in multiple directions, including the extraordinary political risk inherent in the decision to execute the raid.

The top story today in the New York Times, bylined by its top White House reporter, speculates this is about “delayed returning” of “15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives.” If that’s true, and it’s not tied to January 6th or some other far more serious offense, then the Justice Department just committed institutional suicide and moved the country many steps closer to once far-out eventualities like national revolt or martial law.

The editors of the NYT, CNN, David French and his fellow “Never Trumpers,” and most of Twitter really don’t care if Trump really committed a crime or not. They want him in jail for purely political reasons. These are the same people that insisted that the Hunter Biden laptop affair was nothing more than a “Russian disinformation” effort, and since it involves Hunter and his famous father, Joe, it is clear that there will be no effort by the FBI or Merrick Garland, or anyone else in the DOJ, to investigate beyond something cursory, enough to have the authorities claim “there is no there there.”

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

We’ve reached the stage of American history where everything we see on the news must first be understood as political theater. In other words, the messaging layer of news now almost always dominates the factual narrative, with the latter often reported so unreliably as to be meaningless anyway. The sensational tale of the FBI raiding the Mar-a-Lago home of former president Donald Trump is no different.

As of now, it’s impossible to say if Trump’s alleged offense was great, small, or in between. But this for sure is a huge story, and its hugeness extends in multiple directions, including the extraordinary political risk inherent in the decision to execute the raid.

The top story today in the New York Times, bylined by its top White House reporter, speculates this is about “delayed returning” of “15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives.” If that’s true, and it’s not tied to January 6th or some other far more serious offense, then the Justice Department just committed institutional suicide and moved the country many steps closer to once far-out eventualities like national revolt or martial law.

The editors of the NYT, CNN, David French and his fellow “Never Trumpers,” and most of Twitter really don’t care if Trump really committed a crime or not. They want him in jail for purely political reasons. These are the same people that insisted that the Hunter Biden laptop affair was nothing more than a “Russian disinformation” effort, and since it involves Hunter and his famous father, Joe, it is clear that there will be no effort by the FBI or Merrick Garland, or anyone else in the DOJ, to investigate beyond something cursory, enough to have the authorities claim “there is no there there.”

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At this time, we have no idea if Trump violated federal criminal laws or if we are looking at yet another bogus investigation, a road we have been down before. But we should not fool ourselves about the consequences of the jihad against Trump and the never-ending “jail to the chief” efforts of America’s political elites. Sooner or later, other people will be in power, and since the elites have shown no restraint in pursuing Trump and his allies, one can be sure that no one else will show restraint, either. If the political classes have not yet turned the USA into a Third World country, they are well on their way to finishing the job.

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

We’ve reached the stage of American history where everything we see on the news must first be understood as political theater. In other words, the messaging layer of news now almost always dominates the factual narrative, with the latter often reported so unreliably as to be meaningless anyway. The sensational tale of the FBI raiding the Mar-a-Lago home of former president Donald Trump is no different.

As of now, it’s impossible to say if Trump’s alleged offense was great, small, or in between. But this for sure is a huge story, and its hugeness extends in multiple directions, including the extraordinary political risk inherent in the decision to execute the raid.

The top story today in the New York Times, bylined by its top White House reporter, speculates this is about “delayed returning” of “15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives.” If that’s true, and it’s not tied to January 6th or some other far more serious offense, then the Justice Department just committed institutional suicide and moved the country many steps closer to once far-out eventualities like national revolt or martial law.

The editors of the NYT, CNN, David French and his fellow “Never Trumpers,” and most of Twitter really don’t care if Trump really committed a crime or not. They want him in jail for purely political reasons. These are the same people that insisted that the Hunter Biden laptop affair was nothing more than a “Russian disinformation” effort, and since it involves Hunter and his famous father, Joe, it is clear that there will be no effort by the FBI or Merrick Garland, or anyone else in the DOJ, to investigate beyond something cursory, enough to have the authorities claim “there is no there there.”

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At this time, we have no idea if Trump violated federal criminal laws or if we are looking at yet another bogus investigation, a road we have been down before. But we should not fool ourselves about the consequences of the jihad against Trump and the never-ending “jail to the chief” efforts of America’s political elites. Sooner or later, other people will be in power, and since the elites have shown no restraint in pursuing Trump and his allies, one can be sure that no one else will show restraint, either. If the political classes have not yet turned the USA into a Third World country, they are well on their way to finishing the job.

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Here you are openly quoting yourself and talking to yourself about a supposed 'Jihad' on Trump whilst Rushdie is in hospital.


Earth calling Brock, come in Brock ;D

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

We’ve reached the stage of American history where everything we see on the news must first be understood as political theater. In other words, the messaging layer of news now almost always dominates the factual narrative, with the latter often reported so unreliably as to be meaningless anyway. The sensational tale of the FBI raiding the Mar-a-Lago home of former president Donald Trump is no different.

As of now, it’s impossible to say if Trump’s alleged offense was great, small, or in between. But this for sure is a huge story, and its hugeness extends in multiple directions, including the extraordinary political risk inherent in the decision to execute the raid.

The top story today in the New York Times, bylined by its top White House reporter, speculates this is about “delayed returning” of “15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives.” If that’s true, and it’s not tied to January 6th or some other far more serious offense, then the Justice Department just committed institutional suicide and moved the country many steps closer to once far-out eventualities like national revolt or martial law.

The editors of the NYT, CNN, David French and his fellow “Never Trumpers,” and most of Twitter really don’t care if Trump really committed a crime or not. They want him in jail for purely political reasons. These are the same people that insisted that the Hunter Biden laptop affair was nothing more than a “Russian disinformation” effort, and since it involves Hunter and his famous father, Joe, it is clear that there will be no effort by the FBI or Merrick Garland, or anyone else in the DOJ, to investigate beyond something cursory, enough to have the authorities claim “there is no there there.”

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At this time, we have no idea if Trump violated federal criminal laws or if we are looking at yet another bogus investigation, a road we have been down before. But we should not fool ourselves about the consequences of the jihad against Trump and the never-ending “jail to the chief” efforts of America’s political elites. Sooner or later, other people will be in power, and since the elites have shown no restraint in pursuing Trump and his allies, one can be sure that no one else will show restraint, either. If the political classes have not yet turned the USA into a Third World country, they are well on their way to finishing the job.

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Here you are openly quoting yourself and talking to yourself about a supposed 'Jihad' on Trump whilst Rushdie is in hospital.


Earth calling Brock, come in Brock ;D

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May the cunts who stabbed Rushdie be slowly and painfully flayed with a dull knife from head to toe.

My questions are as follows:

“When did you approve the raid? When did Attorney General Garland?”
“What was the predication for the raid? Please provide the predicating records, including the search warrant and supporting affidavit.”
“What is the scope of the investigation that predicated the raid? Is it limited to federal records and classification issues? Please explain.”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with anyone at the White House before or after its execution?”– “If so, what was discussed?”– “Did any member of the White House staff or other executive employee, official, or agent, direct you in any way to pursue and execute the search warrant? If so, who?”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with Attorney General Garland or any of his representatives or subordinates at the Department of Justice before or after its execution? If so, what was discussed?”
“Has the FBI employed a team to determine which records fall within the scope of investigation and those that fall outside of it? If so, when was that team employed? If not, why not?”
I would also ask Wray about the FBI’s apparent double standard when it came to Hillary Clinton and bureau’s “kid-gloves treatment relating to her mishandling of highly classified information” in 2016.

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My questions are as follows:

“When did you approve the raid? When did Attorney General Garland?”
“What was the predication for the raid? Please provide the predicating records, including the search warrant and supporting affidavit.”
“What is the scope of the investigation that predicated the raid? Is it limited to federal records and classification issues? Please explain.”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with anyone at the White House before or after its execution?”– “If so, what was discussed?”– “Did any member of the White House staff or other executive employee, official, or agent, direct you in any way to pursue and execute the search warrant? If so, who?”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with Attorney General Garland or any of his representatives or subordinates at the Department of Justice before or after its execution? If so, what was discussed?”
“Has the FBI employed a team to determine which records fall within the scope of investigation and those that fall outside of it? If so, when was that team employed? If not, why not?”
I would also ask Wray about the FBI’s apparent double standard when it came to Hillary Clinton and bureau’s “kid-gloves treatment relating to her mishandling of highly classified information” in 2016.

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As the aforementioned fact pattern illustrates, the Justice Department and FBI engaged in long-running negotiation with Secretary Clinton and her lawyers. The government even allowed non-government attorneys to draft the letters that circumscribed the scope of the document review that would be performed by the FBI. That scope of review significantly limited the FBI’s ability to review all relevant records during Secretary Clinton’s tenure with the Obama-Biden administration. Has the Justice Department and FBI provided the same privilege to former President Trump and his attorneys?

“As the aforementioned fact pattern illustrates, the FBI, under the Obama-Biden Administration, agreed to destroy government records pertaining to Secretary Clinton’s mishandling of highly classified information as well as laptops associated with Ms. Mills and Ms. Wilkinson. Those records were subject to congressional subpoena and related requests. Has the Justice Department and FBI provided the same privilege to former President Trump and his attorneys? If not, why not?

Attachment 5988

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My questions are as follows:

“When did you approve the raid? When did Attorney General Garland?”
“What was the predication for the raid? Please provide the predicating records, including the search warrant and supporting affidavit.”
“What is the scope of the investigation that predicated the raid? Is it limited to federal records and classification issues? Please explain.”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with anyone at the White House before or after its execution?”– “If so, what was discussed?”– “Did any member of the White House staff or other executive employee, official, or agent, direct you in any way to pursue and execute the search warrant? If so, who?”
“Did you discuss the search warrant with Attorney General Garland or any of his representatives or subordinates at the Department of Justice before or after its execution? If so, what was discussed?”
“Has the FBI employed a team to determine which records fall within the scope of investigation and those that fall outside of it? If so, when was that team employed? If not, why not?”
I would also ask Wray about the FBI’s apparent double standard when it came to Hillary Clinton and bureau’s “kid-gloves treatment relating to her mishandling of highly classified information” in 2016.

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Grassley is up for reelection and is letting his voters know he's on it. The first two questions he'll never get answers to, there are literally laws against releasing this information, it would prejudice any trial, the people releasing it would be committing a felony and so on. Grassley knows this but knows voters don't have a fucking clue.

Every other question he knows the answer to because he reads a newspaper every day unlike the people who vote for him.

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Obama records:

https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/statu...51577751490561


Shameful:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1558098474838671361


Fox identified the judge and where he lives as well:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...01892525428737


I agree:

https://twitter.com/BrendanBuck/stat...89447492042753



Things are not looking good for the Florida restauranteur. We're almost at the white Ford Bronco emerging from Mar A Lago stage now.


EDIT: Five hundred pages! I wonder how many more.

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So basically the whatabout Obama'ism was horseshat? Who knew. Crazy when it's so easy to look at multiple sources and find out beyond our comfort bunkers. If ever I'm running to defend someone and the first examples to use are convicted felons who received a pardon from Perp-45 :scratchchin: and another just found liable for defamation and perjuring himself on a loop, it may be time to reevaluate my loyalties. Probably not the last case of a kook targeting law enforcement and fbi either after tying his lil trump flag around his neck and cutting off the oxygen. Even the guys own forum members turned him in ffs. Wake up sheeple.

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He got worked up enough to try and break through ballistic glass at an FBI field office with a nail gun and then go on a spree with his AR whatever the number is. Trump and other GOP shitheads got him that wound up. He then goes and loses his life over a pack of lies and his fellow nutcases refuse to even believe the story, according to them he's a false flag. What a sorry ongoing situation this is.

Trump also threatened the AG before he held hsi press conference:

Shortly before Mr. Garland made the announcement, a person close to Mr. Trump reached out to a Justice Department official to pass along a message from the former president to the attorney general. Mr. Trump wanted Mr. Garland to know that he had been checking in with people around the country and found them to be enraged by the search.
The message Mr. Trump wanted conveyed, according to a person familiar with the exchange, was: “The country is on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?”
The following day, as a judge unsealed the warrant and the inventory of items that the F.B.I. took, Mr. Trump alternately claimed he did nothing wrong and also made the baseless statement that officials may have planted evidence at his property during the search.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/u...erial-fbi.html



Nice country you've got there, shame if something happened to it.



Then a couple of hours before the warrant is unsealed Trump leaks his copy to various media and they publish it with no redactions so the FBI agents' names are visible. Then a couple of hours later one of Trump's staffers publishes their addresses and various other details on the internet including the social media accounts of their kids:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-tru...a=twitter_page


and


https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1558299956280180736

We're currently in the forty eight hour period between Trump doing something horrendous and the GOP internalising it and then coming to the conclusion that actually (in this case) stealing nuclear secrets and keeping them in an unlocked basement is awesome and a good thing and Trump has their full support. Give them an extra day due to the gravity of the situation and the fact it's a weekend but by Monday I'm guessing all of the above will have explanations and support and backing. Jesus fucking wept.

This is just spectacular:

https://twitter.com/swagner1213/stat...91920828104706


Also this:

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/statu...86071623712769

Keep scrolling for all the videos. Note the identity of the guy posting them. He must be having a hell of a happy week.

At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.
The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.
The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.



It also helps to further explain the sequence of events that prompted the Justice Department’s decision to conduct the search after months in which it had tried to resolve the matter through discussions with Mr. Trump and his team.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/u...erial-fbi.html

Trump is trying to say he declassified everything but the highest level stuff he can't do by himself and there's no record of the rest of it being declassified. And it's irrelevant anyway because the laws he's being investigated for breaking don't turn on the information being classified. It's just more bluster and bullshit from him.

Yesterday we got endless different excuses. The documents were planted. I didn't know what was in the boxes. I was going to give them back, they just came rushing in for no reason. Once the documents go below the water line in the toilet bowl they're declassified. I'd already declassified everything just without telling anybody. They made a mess of Melania's closet. Every president steals classified documents, Look at Obama! Hillary! I was totally going to declassify all of this stuff before I left office but was too busy plotting a coup that I couldn't give the matter my full attention.

He's throwing everything out there to see which bullshit excuse gets the most traction then he's going to go with it. But cable news strategies are all well and good to bullshit the base however he's up against the DOJ here. I wonder if there's more to this. The first fifteen seconds of this clip explain this whole thing and a great deal of the last five plus years but I wonder if the rest of the clip is going to become relevant too:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QodG....Entertainment



Great movie by the way.

Trump 2024 back in the Presidency

WASHINGTON—In the final weeks of the Trump administration, the West Wing started to empty out. White House trade adviser Peter Navarro was spotted carting away a framed photograph of the U.S. and Chinese presidents facing off. The chief of staff’s wife was seen packing a stuffed bird into her car.
President Donald Trump remained preoccupied with overturning his November 2020 election loss. He spent his last days meeting with lawyers, plotting how to settle scores with Republicans who voted to impeach him after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and negotiating over pardons with his advisers, former aides said.
At 12:50 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, his last day in office, he issued a list of 143 pardons and commutations, generating more presidential records required to be turned over to the National Archives.


The result was a rushed and chaotic exit from the White House that is now at the center of a federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and other presidential material after leaving office.



“If you only start packing with two days left to go, you’re just running low on time,” a former aide said. “And if he’s the one just throwing things in boxes, who knows what could happen?”

Another former aide said uncertainty pervaded the West Wing in the final weeks as the president continued to contest the election. “It was a weird time,” the aide said. “It was like, are we doing this? Are we not doing this?”

[...]


“We really could not start picking up until January, and we couldn’t get it all done even by Jan. 20,” when President Biden was sworn into office, he said. He said the transfer process was more strained than usual in the Trump administration in part because White House officials and the then-president didn’t expect to lose the election.

In recent days, some Trump allies have blamed the General Services Administration, which assists with the moving process, for sending sensitive documents to Mar-a-Lago. Kash Patel, former chief of staff to the acting defense secretary, said on Fox News on Friday that the GSA had “mistakenly packed some boxes and moved them to Mar-a-Lago. That’s not on the president.”

Christina Wilkes, the GSA press secretary, said in a statement that the agency doesn’t make such decisions. “The responsibility for making decisions about what materials are moved rests entirely with the outgoing president and their supporting staff,” she said. “Any questions about the contents of any items that were delivered, e.g., documents, are the responsibility of the former President and his supporting staff and should be directed to their office."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...ed-11660480684



They really are going with the he was just too busy plotting the coup excuse. With a side order of it's the deep state's fault.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

WASHINGTON—In the final weeks of the Trump administration, the West Wing started to empty out. White House trade adviser Peter Navarro was spotted carting away a framed photograph of the U.S. and Chinese presidents facing off. The chief of staff’s wife was seen packing a stuffed bird into her car.
President Donald Trump remained preoccupied with overturning his November 2020 election loss. He spent his last days meeting with lawyers, plotting how to settle scores with Republicans who voted to impeach him after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and negotiating over pardons with his advisers, former aides said.
At 12:50 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, his last day in office, he issued a list of 143 pardons and commutations, generating more presidential records required to be turned over to the National Archives.


The result was a rushed and chaotic exit from the White House that is now at the center of a federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and other presidential material after leaving office.



“If you only start packing with two days left to go, you’re just running low on time,” a former aide said. “And if he’s the one just throwing things in boxes, who knows what could happen?”

Another former aide said uncertainty pervaded the West Wing in the final weeks as the president continued to contest the election. “It was a weird time,” the aide said. “It was like, are we doing this? Are we not doing this?”

[...]


“We really could not start picking up until January, and we couldn’t get it all done even by Jan. 20,” when President Biden was sworn into office, he said. He said the transfer process was more strained than usual in the Trump administration in part because White House officials and the then-president didn’t expect to lose the election.

In recent days, some Trump allies have blamed the General Services Administration, which assists with the moving process, for sending sensitive documents to Mar-a-Lago. Kash Patel, former chief of staff to the acting defense secretary, said on Fox News on Friday that the GSA had “mistakenly packed some boxes and moved them to Mar-a-Lago. That’s not on the president.”

Christina Wilkes, the GSA press secretary, said in a statement that the agency doesn’t make such decisions. “The responsibility for making decisions about what materials are moved rests entirely with the outgoing president and their supporting staff,” she said. “Any questions about the contents of any items that were delivered, e.g., documents, are the responsibility of the former President and his supporting staff and should be directed to their office."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...ed-11660480684



They really are going with the he was just too busy plotting the coup excuse. With a side order of it's the deep state's fault.

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TDS on full display, and no cure in sight....HA!

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

WASHINGTON—In the final weeks of the Trump administration, the West Wing started to empty out. White House trade adviser Peter Navarro was spotted carting away a framed photograph of the U.S. and Chinese presidents facing off. The chief of staff’s wife was seen packing a stuffed bird into her car.
President Donald Trump remained preoccupied with overturning his November 2020 election loss. He spent his last days meeting with lawyers, plotting how to settle scores with Republicans who voted to impeach him after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and negotiating over pardons with his advisers, former aides said.
At 12:50 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, his last day in office, he issued a list of 143 pardons and commutations, generating more presidential records required to be turned over to the National Archives.


The result was a rushed and chaotic exit from the White House that is now at the center of a federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and other presidential material after leaving office.



“If you only start packing with two days left to go, you’re just running low on time,” a former aide said. “And if he’s the one just throwing things in boxes, who knows what could happen?”

Another former aide said uncertainty pervaded the West Wing in the final weeks as the president continued to contest the election. “It was a weird time,” the aide said. “It was like, are we doing this? Are we not doing this?”

[...]


“We really could not start picking up until January, and we couldn’t get it all done even by Jan. 20,” when President Biden was sworn into office, he said. He said the transfer process was more strained than usual in the Trump administration in part because White House officials and the then-president didn’t expect to lose the election.

In recent days, some Trump allies have blamed the General Services Administration, which assists with the moving process, for sending sensitive documents to Mar-a-Lago. Kash Patel, former chief of staff to the acting defense secretary, said on Fox News on Friday that the GSA had “mistakenly packed some boxes and moved them to Mar-a-Lago. That’s not on the president.”

Christina Wilkes, the GSA press secretary, said in a statement that the agency doesn’t make such decisions. “The responsibility for making decisions about what materials are moved rests entirely with the outgoing president and their supporting staff,” she said. “Any questions about the contents of any items that were delivered, e.g., documents, are the responsibility of the former President and his supporting staff and should be directed to their office."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...ed-11660480684



They really are going with the he was just too busy plotting the coup excuse. With a side order of it's the deep state's fault.

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TDS on full display, and no cure in sight....HA!

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If there was such a thing as Trump Derangedment Syndrome it would be a perfect way to describe people like yourself who are willing to suspend all rational thought in order to defend ANYTHING that Trump does.

You keep saying that you are 180 on this to others and so you are not going to debate but you know that is just baloney. Many here who can see Trumps bullshit and lies are not lifelong Democrats or people who have ever fell for the media propaganda bullshit for either party. They are just not subscribed to the cult of personality bollocks that is the Trump circus.

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Originally Posted by Beanz

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

WASHINGTON—In the final weeks of the Trump administration, the West Wing started to empty out. White House trade adviser Peter Navarro was spotted carting away a framed photograph of the U.S. and Chinese presidents facing off. The chief of staff’s wife was seen packing a stuffed bird into her car.
President Donald Trump remained preoccupied with overturning his November 2020 election loss. He spent his last days meeting with lawyers, plotting how to settle scores with Republicans who voted to impeach him after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and negotiating over pardons with his advisers, former aides said.
At 12:50 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, his last day in office, he issued a list of 143 pardons and commutations, generating more presidential records required to be turned over to the National Archives.


The result was a rushed and chaotic exit from the White House that is now at the center of a federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and other presidential material after leaving office.



“If you only start packing with two days left to go, you’re just running low on time,” a former aide said. “And if he’s the one just throwing things in boxes, who knows what could happen?”

Another former aide said uncertainty pervaded the West Wing in the final weeks as the president continued to contest the election. “It was a weird time,” the aide said. “It was like, are we doing this? Are we not doing this?”

[...]


“We really could not start picking up until January, and we couldn’t get it all done even by Jan. 20,” when President Biden was sworn into office, he said. He said the transfer process was more strained than usual in the Trump administration in part because White House officials and the then-president didn’t expect to lose the election.

In recent days, some Trump allies have blamed the General Services Administration, which assists with the moving process, for sending sensitive documents to Mar-a-Lago. Kash Patel, former chief of staff to the acting defense secretary, said on Fox News on Friday that the GSA had “mistakenly packed some boxes and moved them to Mar-a-Lago. That’s not on the president.”

Christina Wilkes, the GSA press secretary, said in a statement that the agency doesn’t make such decisions. “The responsibility for making decisions about what materials are moved rests entirely with the outgoing president and their supporting staff,” she said. “Any questions about the contents of any items that were delivered, e.g., documents, are the responsibility of the former President and his supporting staff and should be directed to their office."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...ed-11660480684



They really are going with the he was just too busy plotting the coup excuse. With a side order of it's the deep state's fault.

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TDS on full display, and no cure in sight....HA!

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If there was such a thing as Trump Derangedment Syndrome it would be a perfect way to describe people like yourself who are willing to suspend all rational thought in order to defend ANYTHING that Trump does.

You keep saying that you are 180 on this to others and so you are not going to debate but you know that is just baloney. Many here who can see Trumps bullshit and lies are not lifelong Democrats or people who have ever fell for the media propaganda bullshit for either party. They are just not subscribed to the cult of personality bollocks that is the Trump circus.

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This has never been understood by Trumpeteers.

But hey... he's perfectly objective when it comes to politics.

After all, he voted for Jo Jorgensen. :smilie_pinoc: :D :cool:



https://i.imgflip.com/6q05ze.jpg


:D

Staunch Trump supporter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH_YVLmTSdc

https://youtu.be/lBg8hA-IWRw

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Proud of my Governor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lV5-77iI38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuHPXF8YjXQ

Guess we can throw the law and order part out but yeh. https://youtu.be/1M6CXhUS-x8

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

https://youtu.be/lBg8hA-IWRw

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Lez? Pretty much represented what are now the ashes of principled Conservatism in party. Didn't agree with her on everything but on Trumps increasing mutilation of democracy, she's correct.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Guess we can throw the law and order part out but yeh. https://youtu.be/1M6CXhUS-x8

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I am not going to watch it but what's the gist of it?

Fingerprints!

https://twitter.com/BrianDMcBride/st...03639176564736




Stable genius

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/stat...65274078363649



The level of criminality is just stunning

https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1559310019086000128



Former Bush administration member:

A friend tightly connected to major GOP donors wrote me over the weekend about this. My friend's observation:

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...68859885940737

Multiple posts. Keep scrolling.



One is a former Newsmax presenter, one is general counsel for a parking garage, the other one does slip or fall cases. Trump currently unable to find a suitable lawyer due to his inability to follow advice or pay his bills:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...62745215410177



Here's one in action threatening violence if Trump is indicted:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1559533646582800384


And again

your honor how are we supposed to intimidate the witnesses if the feds won’t even tell us who they are

https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/st...90064707063809



The head lawyer in the Mueller investigation:

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/stat...67889204731904


There's no question Trump can be indicted. Will they do it though? Unless more serious stuff comes to light in the investigation I think there's a good chance he avoids charges.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Fingerprints!

https://twitter.com/BrianDMcBride/st...03639176564736




Stable genius

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/stat...65274078363649



The level of criminality is just stunning

https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1559310019086000128



Former Bush administration member:

A friend tightly connected to major GOP donors wrote me over the weekend about this. My friend's observation:

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...68859885940737

Multiple posts. Keep scrolling.



One is a former Newsmax presenter, one is general counsel for a parking garage, the other one does slip or fall cases. Trump currently unable to find a suitable lawyer due to his inability to follow advice or pay his bills:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...62745215410177



Here's one in action threatening violence if Trump is indicted:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1559533646582800384


And again

your honor how are we supposed to intimidate the witnesses if the feds won’t even tell us who they are

https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/st...90064707063809



The head lawyer in the Mueller investigation:

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/stat...67889204731904


There's no question Trump can be indicted. Will they do it though? Unless more serious stuff comes to light in the investigation I think there's a good chance he avoids charges.

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I saw the same thing on my way to a job around 6pm.. Driving uphill at a stop sign I look up the sky and saw a light being steady, then I saw it moved to the right and took off to the left and was gone. Or maybe it was past 6pm.

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