Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI

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Originally Posted by audleyredemption

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by shilpaigbrother

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Boxing President

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Originally Posted by bruceleeboxingskills

I don't think wladimir is better but in time he could be better than ali

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Originally Posted by bruceleeboxingskills

I don't think wladimir is better but in time he could be better than ali

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U think
Well i Know he is good as ali now but will be better in the future

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oh yes he will be better than ali who beat fraizer liston patterson foreman ken norton earnie shavers leon spinks jerry quarry henry cooper please dont make me laugh this is same wladmir who got beat by lamon brewster u are prolly that ronnie guy  ;) ali made boxing more popular he is hero and great fighter wladmir is champ in weakest hw division ever and has got dodgey chin

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Hang on a minute frazier did beat ali once, second of all ken norton beat ali once and gave him a second close match which anyone could have won, Leon spinks beat ali once and anyone could have won second match, Leon spinks has been knocked out 4 times in the first round in his pro career and the first time he was knocked out in the first round was by a nobody called gerrie coetzee, this fight took place after the ali fight with spinks.
Henry coopers has been knocked out by some nobody before and after ali fight.
earnie shaver has been knocked out by some nobody before and after ali fight, ali just beat him on points.
ali never beat larry holmes
And anyway george foreman knocked out fraizer,  he never ever lost to frazier, he never lost to ken norton and knocked him out, do you really wana talk silly George foreman lost to shannon briggs and shannon briggs lost by 5th round t.k.o to lennox lewis and lennox was outclass by vitali klitscho, who only prepare for a few days before the fight, Lennox retired being scared what a full prepared vitali could do in a rematch, Chris byrd made vitali retire on stool and wladimir became the second man to t.k.o chris byrd .
Lamon never beat wlad, wladimir had been poisoned, since wladimir was winning the who fight with two knock downs and all the rounds until the last 30 seconds, when he fell down, work out what happen, Wladimir was gona fight lamon instead of chris byrd in the rematch, But lamon brewster pulled out for chris byrd since they are cousins because chris wanted revenge. Chris byrd regret it and lamon was happy he wasn't there on the night.
You should read the quote fully before typing because I aint gona repeat myself.
this lamon and wlad story has been explained by someone on one of the pages

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why are you bringing such an old topic back firstly ali was way past his prime against spinks you should know that and second fight with spinks wasnt really close those were the scores 4-10 | Judge: Ernie Cojoe 4-10 | Judge: Herman Preis 4-11 ~ gerrie coetzee wasnt a nobody he wasnt best boxer in the world but he had power remember michael dokes fight ?? and i know frazier beat ali im not stupid but he beat fraizer twice after that so whats your point and same with ken norton and anyway norton and fraizer are 5 times better than anyone wlad has ever faced make en excuse for the loss wlad had against brewster it doesnt matter he still got koed he also got dominated by sanders and lost to ross purity plus when did vitali outclass lewis ?? lewis had little prep aswell he won the fight get over it so what if vitali was 2 points ahead lewis still won

ali was past his prime against shavers you do know that ?? and so what if he beat him on points style makes fights and shavers was koed by quarry and ron lyle they wernt nobodys by any means and ali was 38 against holmes and im big larry holmes fan but ali was shadow of his former self

and lets get real briggs didnt beat foreman he was totally robbed plus foreman was 47 wasnt he ?? so whats your point ??

i dont care what you say he wont never be in same class as ali never

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first of all ali was younger than wladimir when he lost against fraizier and was considered in his peak when lost to ken norton I have proof that the fight was really close as you've just made your own scorecards. here the proof                                http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php? most people believe that ken norton beaten ali 2nd time and more time like frazier beat ali twice as he was robbed by the judges
this has the list of all ali fight, by the way ali retired on stool and wladimir hasn't.
The only reason wladimir lost against purity because he ran out of stamina, he was drugged against brewster and totaly underestimated sanders and came in bad condition, the fighter would never give wladimir a rematch as vitali avenged them and when vitali lost wladimir avenged his brother loss. these fighter who beat klitschko luckly never realised that you don't get very lucky twice as thunder lighting does not strike in the same place twice.
George foreman said he went dead after  few rounds at a early age but his stamina inproved at late age, since u gona moan like a girl george was hammered by tommy morrison as tommy was tko in 5 rounds by lewis and the lewis was being destroyed and was forced into retirement by klitschko, if klitschko won 4 rounds and lennox won 2 them am sure that would be called out classing, lennox was lucky the fight was stopped otherwise klitschko was gona crush lenox legacy, lennox is known to be in peak at late age but was outclassed by klitschko who only prepared few days before fight, lennox was best shape of his life and had been training for fight few months before fight as kirk johnson pulled but klitschko who had no idea e was gona fight for championships took the fight on few days notice, if klitschko never spended time on his phd and kickboxing and never went through soo many injurires which kept him far away from reaching his peak then he would destroy lennox wid 1 punch and lay him to rest

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made my own scorecard ?? they were official scorecards moron and actually ali had damage to his brain and took one of worse one sided beatings ever seen in hw ring his corner stopped the fight since when had wlad ever took one sided beating for that many rounds ?? maybe he would quit on his stool too The only reason wladimir lost against purity because he ran out of stamina ?? well duh he still beat him he doesnt matter if he run out of stamina thats his own fault and sanders destroyed wlad right from the start he gave wlad trouble with his left hook he dominated him and it would of happened again prime for prime but it would lasted longer than the first fight it was too early to say outclass .. he was winning by 2 rounds and he was hanging on at end of 6th round and there was no luck lewis won fair and square

george was hammered by tommy morrison as tommy was tko in 5 rounds by lewis and the lewis was being destroyed and was forced into retirement by klitschko= actually it was 6 rounds and morrison won a decision against an old foreman and got battered by lewis what does that prove ?? you cant do what your saying styles makes fights

since u gona moan like a girl george ?? excuse me where did i moan all i was saying was its well known fact that foreman got robbed by briggs thats why they were doing an investigation in it ....

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by X

Who wants to bet that shilpeagbrother and audleyredemption and actually both RONNIE. He is actually talking to himself - same text, same diction, same vocabulary. ??? What a nutter. Ever been to Ipswich, mate?

At least when I talk to myself I do it in blue text so everyone knows

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Wouldn't be the first time we've had a Klitscho fan boy with multiple accounts talking to himself on here... ;)

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No, you're right there. Anyone who thinks Klitschko is anywhere near Ali must be a nutter.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by X

Who wants to bet that shilpeagbrother and audleyredemption and actually both RONNIE. He is actually talking to himself - same text, same diction, same vocabulary. ??? What a nutter. Ever been to Ipswich, mate?

At least when I talk to myself I do it in blue text so everyone knows

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Wouldn't be the first time we've had a Klitscho fan boy with multiple accounts talking to himself on here... ;)

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No, you're right there. Anyone who thinks Klitschko is anywhere near Ali must be a nutter.

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What are you saying you moron? look on boxrec which is an oracle and see the rpoof and the truth. you are the nutter mate if you don't even know that

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Originally Posted by X

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Originally Posted by X

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Who wants to bet that shilpeagbrother and audleyredemption and actually both RONNIE. He is actually talking to himself - same text, same diction, same vocabulary. ??? What a nutter. Ever been to Ipswich, mate?

At least when I talk to myself I do it in blue text so everyone knows

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Wouldn't be the first time we've had a Klitscho fan boy with multiple accounts talking to himself on here... ;)

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No, you're right there. Anyone who thinks Klitschko is anywhere near Ali must be a nutter.

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What are you saying you moron? look on boxrec which is an oracle and see the rpoof and the truth. you are the nutter mate if you don't even know that

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You are the fool if you ask me. and you are the fool even if you dont. look at the records and losses that Klit has had.

i now wonder when someone will post "is valuev the next foreman?".

This is possibly one of the most humorous threads that I've come across on this site. ;D

Lets sum up this whole thread in one statement: If you ask someone around the world today to name a heavyweight boxer, is Wladimir klitschko ever gonna be their first choice? No. you will get (in order)

1. Ali
2. Tyson
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3. De la hoya (let me explain this last choice. During my time in prob stat class i did some math and found out that upwards of 16% of the worlds population will have a barely-functional or lower iq level. These are probably the three most publicized boxers of all time. I'm sure if you asked some of the "intellectually challenged" people in america or anywhere else de la hoya would show up quite readily as an answer to this question.)

please do not say e la hoya because he was destoyed by hopkins, i bet jermain is the greatest of all time in ur case and i don't think u would have words for roy in ur primes
I know all these different name is 1 person as you cannont spell and make racial comment and is purely a klitschko hater also u try and use silly different coulour so i think ur alot of soo many different people, well it not the first time a racist person has played about with votes, please grow up cos am not gona waist my time arguing with 1 jealous racist person who spead his life time on a sad-do forum, and then critcising a world champion, i bet ur the same guy who got picked on in school so u never get out ur house and stay on this sad-do forum.
I'm not gona say get a life cos i don't give a shit
and fuk wakko mum

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

Lets sum up this whole thread in one statement: If you ask someone around the world today to name a heavyweight boxer, is Wladimir klitschko ever gonna be their first choice? No. you will get (in order)

1. Ali
2. Tyson
and
3. De la hoya (let me explain this last choice. During my time in prob stat class i did some math and found out that upwards of 16% of the worlds population will have a barely-functional or lower iq level. These are probably the three most publicized boxers of all time. I'm sure if you asked some of the "intellectually challenged" people in america or anywhere else de la hoya would show up quite readily as an answer to this question.)

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And if you ask someone to name a make of a car they would probably say Ford or Chevrolet but it doesn't mean they make the best cars!Ali gets shoved down everyones throats every day!ESPN classics should be renamed the Ali network!Ali was the self proclaimed greatest and everyone has bought into this even if they haven't seen one of his fights!Marketing is an amazing thing.I won't even get into comparing Wladimir with Ali because they are very different all around and there is absolutely no way to make a legitimate comparison having fought in different eras.

muhammad ali is the greatest ever person, never mind best sportman or boxer

Wladimir Klitschko isn't even the next LAYLA ALI!!

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Originally Posted by powerstorm

muhammad ali is the greatest ever person, never mind best sportman or boxer

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HUH?

uh ya and makes Mother Teresa look like an egotistical bitch.

please notice the -1 beside your name......

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Originally Posted by landmine950

Wladimir Klitschko isn't even the next LAYLA ALI!!

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who said he was

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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

Lets sum up this whole thread in one statement: If you ask someone around the world today to name a heavyweight boxer, is Wladimir klitschko ever gonna be their first choice? No. you will get (in order)

1. Ali
2. Tyson
and
3. De la hoya (let me explain this last choice. During my time in prob stat class i did some math and found out that upwards of 16% of the worlds population will have a barely-functional or lower iq level. These are probably the three most publicized boxers of all time. I'm sure if you asked some of the "intellectually challenged" people in america or anywhere else de la hoya would show up quite readily as an answer to this question.)

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And if you ask someone to name a make of a car they would probably say Ford or Chevrolet but it doesn't mean they make the best cars!Ali gets shoved down everyones throats every day!ESPN classics should be renamed the Ali network!Ali was the self proclaimed greatest and everyone has bought into this even if they haven't seen one of his fights!Marketing is an amazing thing.I won't even get into comparing Wladimir with Ali because they are very different all around and there is absolutely no way to make a legitimate comparison having fought in different eras.

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You know I hate to agree with this guy on any point...... but the part about ESPN showing all Ali fights (and Tyson) is painfully true. I saw Ward/Augustus on there the other night and it was a breath of fresh air. Other than that, "no where in your rambling, incoherent response did you come anywhere close to something that could be called a rational thought. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

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Originally Posted by mikeboxing

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

im gonna go ahead and say , HELL NO

ali would have never lost to lamon brewster, corey sanders, or ross purrity (or whatever his name was)

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well Ali dd lose to Leon Spinks :-\

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Ali did lose to Spinks....But it had nothing to do with Leon and his ability..or Ali slipping...There was a method to that madness...To believe otherwise is silly