Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show

Miranda is a beast...I thought that Green would outpoint him.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by amat

Regardless of how he looked tonight, Cotto is still one of the hottest fighters in all of boxing. He's P4P top 10 and undefeated. And he improves every fight (haven't seen him tonight), how can you honestly pose that question? Zab has a ton to gain by fighting Cotto. For 1, he is fighting Pito his next fight, a pretty good lightweight 4 years ago. That shows how far Zab has fallen. He's lost 2 of his last 3 fights, one to Carlos Baldomir. He has had horrible outings against average fighters in the past while Cotto is a star on the rise.

If he beats Cotto he gains a ton of legitimacy again. You can't honestly think that Cotto brings nothing to the table for Zab. I'll give you one more. When Cotto faces a journeyman, HBO travels to Puerto Rico to cover it. Zab is fighting in the states on ESPN 2. But of course Zab has nothing to gain.

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:coolclick: Totally agree...but Judah may still have enough to give Cotto some troubles...atleast for the first 5 rounds.

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No doubt. It's actually very funny. You can count on a good 5 rounds from Judah and nothing more. We all talk about how inconsistent he is but....well he's consistent in what he gives us ;D At least he was in 2006.

Cotto got mentally frustrated.His body shots didnt seem to wear urkal down.He intentionally punched him in the back,and tried to throw him over his shoulder.Urkal doesnt fight dirty.Cotto steps in a throws with his head down and urkal tried to slip and grab him...so I dont know what fight some of you were watching.Amat you can justify Cotto's performance he has a couple of things he needs to work on.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

If zab beats cotto...whats next?what top name fighter is he gonna have a chance to fight?I don't see him climbing that high on the rankings either way.Cotto improves every fight?How?He takes BIG shots in every fight and shows the same mistakes everytime he fights!You talk about cotto fighting on HBO..wow...its not PPV.Zab also doesnt have top rank promotions either.Thats just politics.Zab is gonna earn a little money from the cotto fight.If Zab whens...do you honestly think that they will rank him top 10 p4p.NOOOO

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No but he doesn't deserve top 10 P4P. And Judah digresses every fight.

And if Zab wins...

Margarito, Clottey, Hatton, Spinks, Mosley, Collazo, Williams....

Everyone at 140-154 with the exception of Mayweather will be seriously considering him as their next opponent.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Cotto got mentally frustrated.His body shots didnt seem to wear urkal down.He intentionally punched him in the back,and tried to throw him over his shoulder.Urkal doesnt fight dirty.Cotto steps in a throws with his head down and urkal tried to slip and grab him...so I dont know what fight some of you were watching.Amat you can justify Cotto's performance he has a couple of things he needs to work on.

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Haven't seen the fight tonight so I wouldn't know. I have always been down on Cotto until the Quintana fight. I thought he improved a whole hell of a lot that night.

He wont be able to get a Hatton fight,no one wants a spinks fight,if williams and margo fight...the winner will be chasing mosley or floyd,and a collazo fight wont sell.Zab is considered a step down.

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by amat

Regardless of how he looked tonight, Cotto is still one of the hottest fighters in all of boxing. He's P4P top 10 and undefeated. And he improves every fight (haven't seen him tonight), how can you honestly pose that question? Zab has a ton to gain by fighting Cotto. For 1, he is fighting Pito his next fight, a pretty good lightweight 4 years ago. That shows how far Zab has fallen. He's lost 2 of his last 3 fights, one to Carlos Baldomir. He has had horrible outings against average fighters in the past while Cotto is a star on the rise.

If he beats Cotto he gains a ton of legitimacy again. You can't honestly think that Cotto brings nothing to the table for Zab. I'll give you one more. When Cotto faces a journeyman, HBO travels to Puerto Rico to cover it. Zab is fighting in the states on ESPN 2. But of course Zab has nothing to gain.

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:coolclick: Totally agree...but Judah may still have enough to give Cotto some troubles...atleast for the first 5 rounds.

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No doubt. It's actually very funny. You can count on a good 5 rounds from Judah and nothing more. We all talk about how inconsistent he is but....well he's consistent in what he gives us ;D At least he was in 2006.

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Here's the thing...as much as I hate Judah (and I mean HATE with a capital HATE!) as a person, he's a hell of a boxer. He's fast, he's powerful, & he's championship material...BUT...he's also unreliable...on top of being a fwockin asshole.

I truely do believe that he'll come in focused & either upset Cotto or give him the fight of his life. Cotto is to easy to be hit. He's always there to be found for most of the second & third tier fighter's shots...I have to think that as accurate & as slick as Judah is...the night will not be in Cotto's favor.

That being said...I'd love nothing more than to see Judah toes up counting light bulbs in a square circle somewhere in New York.

Judah has "super flaws" . Zab drops his hand religiously after he throw a flurry and backs str8 up.. Just a simple timing situation for Cotto to work out and he will have Judah out within 6 rounds ..easy ! Cotto will simply slide forward and throw the Left hook while Judah's hands are low. game over.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Cotto got mentally frustrated.His body shots didnt seem to wear urkal down.He intentionally punched him in the back,and tried to throw him over his shoulder.Urkal doesnt fight dirty.Cotto steps in a throws with his head down and urkal tried to slip and grab him...so I dont know what fight some of you were watching.Amat you can justify Cotto's performance he has a couple of things he needs to work on.

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Watch the fight again. I've watched it twice tonight. Urkal butted him 3 times & if they weren't intentional then I don't know what were. After he & Urkal clashed & he got cut...Urkal came in with his head everytime that Cotto closed the gap.

You not seeing that...I'd be just as curious as to what fight you were watching.

Cotto aint perfect...but he's got room to grow & he does improve with time & each outting.

The proof is in the pudding. He's beaten everyone that beat him in the am's & he's moved up in weight & continued to work & win.

Where are all the Green fans at?

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Where are all the Green fans at?

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;D

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Where are all the Green fans at?

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;D

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Don't get me wrong I don't wanna talk shit!

I just wanna find out what they think wen't wrong. From their perspective.

cOTTO was boxing very well until the butt.Urkal has always been known to be tough,fought the last 4-5 rounds v Tszyu with a broken shoulder.And Harris tko'ed him after Urkal broke his nose in training for the fight.Admittedly Cotto reacted poorly to the cut but if you don' t think those butts were intentional,you need to go and watch it again.He was leaning in with his head.

Cotto used his jab,he should have used more but it was nice to see his defence was up,some nice movement and those ripping bodyshots!Admittedly the ending was slightly unsatisfactory(OPEN SCORING SUCKS) but Cotto won and looked decent until the cut.

I've yet to see Miranda-Green..about to watch it now! Wacth Maruqz-Vazquez.sensational boxing,knockdowns,skills,beautfiul to watch!
And Green looks like a cocky asshole,I hope Miranda KTFO green!!!

Afeter the cut because of the head but Cotto Looked like he did protecting that eye but he looke ok been fighting with that damage. Urkal did OK because of his head but abilities causing Cotto to protect that eye( a situation Cotto had never been in). So stop bashing Cotto. Great refereee he should have took more points but what the hell cotto still won.

Green looks awful thus far(I'm up to round 6)After alllllllllllllllllllllllll the shit talk,he's fighting scared.He's just trying to survive.Has he thrown a meaningful punch? What is he waiting for? Miranda needs to KTFO this guy!