Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Right so we cant talk about Castillo who at worst came very close to beating Mayweather a long time ago but we can talk about Eamonn Magee who had one good round against Hatton a long time ago.
Its relevant if someone thinks its relevant, thats the bottom line.
If Hatton had rematched Collazo and beaten him soundly would people disregard his first effort? of course they wouldnt. It still offers some insight into what another fighter can achieve, same with Mayweather Castillo 1.
Bow before Your maker! :bowdown:
The funny thing about that whole post is the fighters talked about. So what if Floyd had some trouble with Castillo, he is arguably an all time top ten at 135, and one of the best p4p fighters of his generation in his prime, and thats smack bang when floyd fought him.
On the other hand Hatton was troubled by Magee, talented journeyman at best, probably never a top ten guy in his weight division, and he would NEVER have troubled Floyd at 140. Nuff said
You know what. I'm drunk. I'm stoned. Its a Friday night but right now i'm in a state of realisation. Eagle youv'e just helped me form a new opinion.
Basically. We all have a banter about how Castillo gave Floyd all the trouble in the world in their 1st encounter. But watch the fight. Floyd was 'trying' to do a fair amount of fighting.
Come the 2nd fight, you all see what happened. So feel this for a second....
If the great Ray Leonard can try to fight Duran over FIFTEEN ROUNDS then make him say 'no mas' after eight rounds of sugar shock. Then lads i'm sure if Floyd really did his thing he'd of made Duran want 'no mas' in just the same way.
It might be the drugs. But thats how i feel right now ;)
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CC Jim stoned an all! lol
There's nothing I hate more than people dismissing Floyds chances against a Duran back in the day. It was a different era, how can anyone know for sure? Floyd is a smart fighter and he is the hardest training fighter in boxing. We know this about Floyd.
I wouldn't hazard a guess as to who would win but I can see scenario's in both their favour.
I just can't wait for this fight between Floyd and Hatton I really can't..i just love pre-fight hype and discussions! It makes you look forward to the fight and is therefore healthy!! :)
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Althugz, check out my Sig (graphical preview) ;)
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Nice!! You make that yourself?
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;)
Im too into this fight! :D
Anyway, im off topic. As you were lads! :P
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I have written a lot in this thread and maybe i've been to harsh on Ricky fans. I dont hate the guy, i actually admire him for his determination and toughness. I think he has a chance against Floyd, even if it is small.
What i cant stand tho is people on here who knock PBF's credentials, yet applaud Hattons. The truth is that Floyd has faced and beaten the better opposition. Others who say that he has never faced a tough challenge make me mad also. The fact is that in 2001-2002 there was no tougher challenge at 130 or 135 than Corrales, Chavez and Castillo. Fact also is that if Zab Judah hadnt been beaten by Baldo, Floyd would have been fighting the undisputed WW champ in 2006. Fact is that in 2007 there isnt a tougher challenge at 154 the DLH.
So far i have heard in this thread that Joel Julio is a bigger threat than DLH, so i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Judah, Corrales and Byrd have more impressive careers than PBF i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Floyd has never faced tough opposition, i disagreed with that.
I've heard that all PBF fights are boring, i disagreed with that.
Last but not least i read that Hatton will easily beat PBF and i disagreed with that.
Anyone got a problem with that?
Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by eagle
So far i have heard in this thread that Joel Julio is a bigger threat than DLH, so i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Judah, Corrales and Byrd have more impressive careers than PBF i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Floyd has never faced tough opposition, i disagreed with that.
I've heard that all PBF fights are boring, i disagreed with that.
Last but not least i read that Hatton will easily beat PBF and i disagreed with that.
Anyone got a problem with that?
Wow i havn't read that far back but its fucking astonishing that people have made those claims...Guess everyone is entitled to their opinion :-\
Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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So far i have heard in this thread that Joel Julio is a bigger threat than DLH, so i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Judah, Corrales and Byrd have more impressive careers than PBF i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Floyd has never faced tough opposition, i disagreed with that.
I've heard that all PBF fights are boring, i disagreed with that.
Last but not least i read that Hatton will easily beat PBF and i disagreed with that.
Anyone got a problem with that?
Wow i havn't read that far back but its F****** astonishing that people have made those claims...Guess everyone is entitled to their opinion :-\
Well it wasnt so much people as 1 person. Havent really heard from him since. I think me and a few others abused him a little too much, but sheesh if u make claims like that then u are probably fair game.....
Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by Althugz
CC Jim stoned an all! lol
There's nothing I hate more than people dismissing Floyds chances against a Duran back in the day. It was a different era, how can anyone know for sure? Floyd is a smart fighter and he is the hardest training fighter in boxing. We know this about Floyd.
I wouldn't hazard a guess as to who would win but I can see scenario's in both their favour.
I just can't wait for this fight between Floyd and Hatton I really can't..i just love pre-fight hype and discussions! It makes you look forward to the fight and is therefore healthy!! :)
Mayweather would of beat Duran no question i have been saying this for ages Duran is not a great fighter when someone fights him from outside if Kirkland Laing could give Duran boxing lesson i don't see why Mayweather can't win decision.
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Originally Posted by eagle
I have written a lot in this thread and maybe i've been to harsh on Ricky fans. I dont hate the guy, i actually admire him for his determination and toughness. I think he has a chance against Floyd, even if it is small.
What i cant stand tho is people on here who knock PBF's credentials, yet applaud Hattons. The truth is that Floyd has faced and beaten the better opposition. Others who say that he has never faced a tough challenge make me mad also. The fact is that in 2001-2002 there was no tougher challenge at 130 or 135 than Corrales, Chavez and Castillo. Fact also is that if Zab Judah hadnt been beaten by Baldo, Floyd would have been fighting the undisputed WW champ in 2006. Fact is that in 2007 there isnt a tougher challenge at 154 the DLH.
So far i have heard in this thread that Joel Julio is a bigger threat than DLH, so i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Judah, Corrales and Byrd have more impressive careers than PBF i disagreed with that.
I've heard that Floyd has never faced tough opposition, i disagreed with that.
I've heard that all PBF fights are boring, i disagreed with that.
Last but not least i read that Hatton will easily beat PBF and i disagreed with that.
Anyone got a problem with that?
I don't think anyone knocks Mayweather's "Achievements" it's more the fashion in which he achieves them, and if anyone says Judah, Byrd and Corrales have had better careers trhen you know they are talking complete bollocks. Real fight fans know there are some absolutely cracking Mayweather fights that leave your mouth wide open in amazement, and clearly it's not going to be easy for Hatton, it's his biggest test so far, and Mayweather is rightly the bookies favourite. But in my eyes I truly believe Hatton has the drive, determination and most importantly the tools to beat Mayweather.
One part I slightly disagree with is that in 2007 and at 154, Vernon Forrest, Corey Spinks and Kassim Ouma are bigger tests to Mayweather than Oscar De La Hoya.
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I dont know duran was a tough fighter and give him a chance at beating Floyde cause duran hit harder then any one he has faced before and was a good fighter i mean he did beat srl but then when srl boxed he lost but look pbf not a srl but thats just my opion you can disagree ice for me it goes either way if duran and pbf had a fight i dont count duran out and i give pbf a chance to but i really cant decide i amd going to watch some more film on both of them and make a better decision i have not seen a duran fight in a while but what i can rember he was one hell of a fighter better calibar of fighter then floyde has ever faced and pbf is not the best he has faced in my thoughts are both Marvin and SRL were tougher opponents
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I dont know duran was a tough fighter and give him a chance at beating Floyde cause duran hit harder then any one he has faced before and was a good fighter i mean he did beat srl but then when srl boxed he lost but look pbf not a srl but thats just my opion you can disagree ice for me it goes either way if duran and pbf had a fight i dont count duran out and i give pbf a chance to but i really cant decide i amd going to watch some more film on both of them and make a better decision i have not seen a duran fight in a while but what i can rember he was one hell of a fighter better calibar of fighter then floyde has ever faced and pbf is not the best he has faced in my thoughts are both Marvin and SRL were tougher opponents
For me Duran would beat Mayweather, especially over 15 rounds.
Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I dont know duran was a tough fighter and give him a chance at beating Floyde cause duran hit harder then any one he has faced before and was a good fighter i mean he did beat srl but then when srl boxed he lost but look pbf not a srl but thats just my opion you can disagree ice for me it goes either way if duran and pbf had a fight i dont count duran out and i give pbf a chance to but i really cant decide i amd going to watch some more film on both of them and make a better decision i have not seen a duran fight in a while but what i can rember he was one hell of a fighter better calibar of fighter then floyde has ever faced and pbf is not the best he has faced in my thoughts are both Marvin and SRL were tougher opponents
i mean he did beat srl but then when srl boxed he lost
Thats it you just proved my point reason why Leonard lost first fight is because Duran called him a wimp so Leonard wanted to prove a point by fighting Duran's fight by fighting as a brawler and he lost fair play but when Leonard boxed by staying on outside he was boxing Duran's ears off and Duran quit like i'll say again Duran was great fighter and a legend but he had a weakness to fighters who boxed him from the outside and was only goodish fighter when someone boxed him that way and didn't allow him to fight on inside thats why you see his losses to mediocre fighters like Kirkland Laing, Robbie Simms,
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Well ice is saying it like PBF would have no trouble beating Duran and i think it could go either way problem being it will never happen
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and what weight are we talking about ice before i say anything else welter or lightweight just to ask
