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I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
I would tend to have to disagree here...Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
No one is taking the position that stricter testing is a bad thing and no top level athlete shouldn't take the tests.
The "Pac defense" boils down to how the fighters are playing within the rules of the sport. Case closed - When the rules change for everyone across the board then the debate is more then welcome to resurface.
Are you sure you read the arguments within the last few pages?
So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Yep, read them all except for the multi quote ones because they are just irritating.Quote:
Originally Posted by cnote111I would tend to have to disagree here...Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
No one is taking the position that stricter testing is a bad thing and no top level athlete shouldn't take the tests.
The "Pac defense" boils down to how the fighters are playing within the rules of the sport. Case closed - When the rules change for everyone across the board then the debate is more then welcome to resurface.
Are you sure you read the arguments within the last few pages?
Pac refused a mega fight that the world was clamouring for because he wouldn't take a drug test. That's what it boils down to. Case indeed closed.
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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Pac refused to fight Floyd Mayweather because he had issues with taking a drugs test. Hopkins should take tests too. All boxers should.
Have some posters in here been trapped in a cave after the first Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation? Wake up! They had already been through a second negotiation and do we even need to remind some people here as to what happened in that negotiation?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesQuote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Pac refused to fight Floyd Mayweather because he had issues with taking a drugs test. Hopkins should take tests too. All boxers should.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
Pac should have told them he'd take the drug tests for 75% of the purse.
The only difference here is that Pascal still took the fight and for that Hopkins is no where near on the same level of ridicule as Pac. PBF claimed time and time again Pac is an easy opponent for multiple reasons, if he would fought and beat Pac without the tests, would we all still be talking about Bloodtests in the same manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesQuote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Pac refused to fight Floyd Mayweather because he had issues with taking a drugs test. Hopkins should take tests too. All boxers should.
Didn't a Klitchko turn down a blood test at some point, where is the uproar?
To me this blood test is only a big deal because Mayweather didn't want to fight without it, even though he gave a 14 day window (which was later accepted) and then changed it to 0, then went on vacation and stopped thinking about boxing.
Meanwhile Pac is still fighting without bloodtests and most are still watching hundreds of other fighters that have not taken a blood test.
Why is anyone watching Boxing or any combat sport without the blood test? We should go on strike as viewers, we should protest all combat sports, we should just kill ourselves in protest on how much not taking these fukking blood tests are ruining the way of life. Oh my Gawd this topic is so important i think i'm going to stop eating until all athletes take bloodtests everyday of their lives. That is the only way to be sure that sports are played fairly.
~taking my pill now~
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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Has Hopkins had random testing on the build up to a fight? Not that I'm aware of
Does he have a question mark over his head? In my opinion absolutely.
If you don't think the subject is important, don't read it, don't coment on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cnote111The only difference here is that Pascal still took the fight and for that Hopkins is no where near on the same level of ridicule as Pac. PBF claimed time and time again Pac is an easy opponent for multiple reasons, if he would fought and beat Pac without the tests, would we all still be talking about Bloodtests in the same manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesQuote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Pac refused to fight Floyd Mayweather because he had issues with taking a drugs test. Hopkins should take tests too. All boxers should.
Didn't a Klitchko turn down a blood test at some point, where is the uproar?
To me this blood test is only a big deal because Mayweather didn't want to fight without it, even though he gave a 14 day window (which was later accepted) and then changed it to 0, then went on vacation and stopped thinking about boxing.
Meanwhile Pac is still fighting without bloodtests and most are still watching hundreds of other fighters that have not taken a blood test.
Why is anyone watching Boxing or any combat sport without the blood test? We should go on strike as viewers, we should protest all combat sports, we should just kill ourselves in protest on how much not taking these fukking blood tests are ruining the way of life. Oh my Gawd this topic is so important i think i'm going to stop eating until all athletes take bloodtests everyday of their lives. That is the only way to be sure that sports are played fairly.
~taking my pill now~
Simple.
Cuz alot are juicing and it would make life harder for them. I Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
If you really think that fighters, sports athletes don't care about fairness in their sport then you really must be retarded.
Hornfinger
Do you still watch boxing on TV and going to boxing matches?
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
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Originally Posted by sillent killer
Not as much as I used to, their just seems to be a lot less fights I'm interested in these days. I tend not to be interested in fights that I can see as one sided beatings.
I watched groves vs degale the other day that was quite entertaining.