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I think it could be a great fight.. Maybe now that Oscar likely won't fight PBF Shane will?? I know Mosley wanted him after he beat Vargas but Oscar said he may fight him so basically made Shane take a rematch with Fernando.. Its BS, one of them should fight him and just make the commitment, now Shane has to make 154 again and he's not getting younger. I don't even know why the rematch is happening he beat Vargas by enough of a margin, I don't care to see it again.
what! mosley vargas was an awesome fight. i would love to see a rematch.
mosley al the way, ud win
Zab asked alot of questions of floyd in their fight, but seemd to tire out towards the end. one thing u can be sure about hatton is he will be in his face thorwing punches ad head and body for every second of every round
He has shown he can do that without getting tired, i honestly doubt floyd can last 12 rounds with ricky, and i think his shots will tire floyd out fast, making floyd punches less painfull, less accurate. sure many of u will be saying floyd will be to fast, hatton wont be able to hit him, but then isnt that what most saig about Tzu?
there only one person worth betting on if they do fight.. Hatton!
Really? I have not been impressed with Shane at all recently, and I was at one time a HUGE fan. Still like the guy, but WHY did Cruz and Estrada go the distance with him? Why were they not at least knocked down and/or dominated? Why was a shot Vargas winning any rounds at all? I think Shane has slipped lately. Back in the glory days when he was 34 and 0 with 32 knockouts, then you're damn right he woulda killed Floyd. Now I just don't know..I'd favor Floyd in that fight probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
those guys are too big for shane....154 it too high for him..at 147 he'd look way more explosive...in fact he'd be more explosive...he has the boxing skill, strength, and power to take and give with floyd...he'd walk through floyds punches...I don't believe I could say the same for floyd...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
MAYORGA! ;D
Seriously, a confident and a conditioned Vernon Forrest! Long, great boxing skills, very strong, etc....
his skills were so confident that he couldn't even beat a non-boxer like mayorga....he'd be torn up by floyd....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintymen
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Originally Posted by Preme
Yall are too biased to be posting,U think that Hatton will tire out Floyd,who has one of the best cardios out there if not the best,and also that he cant stand for 12 rnds against him???Floyd doesnt have to hurt him,hell be boxing his ears off and by the 6th rnd Ricky's face will look like a hamburguer.
Ricky is a great pressure fighter,but he blocks the punches with his face...
This will look like Castillo/PBF II if not worse,U guys overrate Hatton too much,IMO is tougher than Hatton,more xp and everything but hes been fighting at 135 and Hatton at 140 but I bet that Castillo will have no problem at 140,and he can take on Hatton any day of the week.So take it out of your minds yall,Hatton cant beat PBF plain and simple!
He underestimated Mayorga and maybe he's was confused when he knew he could not hurt him. He was a great fighter at Weltereweight before his confidence was shattered by Mayorga. I like to see him at his best when this two meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
How did you reason this would be the case other than what you think? Back up what you think with reasons, this will get you thinking...Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Thinking is good for you.
shane is stronger than floyd, he's never been hurt in the ring other than the first forrest fight and that was due to the headbutt and the right hand that followed shortly after...shane is just a skilled as floyd...at 147 shane's punch will hurt floyd like no else's....floyd never had enough power to hurt shane at any weight he will walk through floyd's punches all night long...and it's not the case like hatton who possibly could walk through PBF punches, because shane can walk through them and be quick enough to get off too..shane is skilled and fast enough to hit floyd with anything...at 147 against shane it would look like a man against boy the strength would be so telling....Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtko
here's the grade breakdown if they fought at 147...
PBF=Skill A+, speed A, Power B-, Footwork A, Defence A+, Strength C
SS= Skill A+, speed A+,Power A+, Footwork A, defence B+, Strength A+
mind you this is shane at 147 not 154 where he started to believe that just because you put on muscle mean you hit harder and he started to throw one or two punches...at 147 he'd be toooo strong for floyd this is why floyd has mentioned everybody up except shane....winky? Winky would not genrate as much money as shane..winky & taylor aren't even fighting on PPV and they've just beat some great fighters in BHOP and Trinidad...PBF v Shane would definitely be PPV... shane hasn't been the real underdog in any fight except the first de la hoya fight..and he'd be the underdog against floyd...and if he came in 75% of that version of himself he would still beat floyd....remember I'm not saying floyd couldn't win, but his chances are slimmer than shane's...shane could win by (SD,UD,KO,TKO)
PBF could only win by (SD, UD) because he doesn't have enough strength to hurt shane and yeah he'll hit shane a lot but the only difference in this fight than against say TOny or Hatton...shane is skilled and fast enough to hit him back so the getting discouraged factor will go out of the window...
Shane has problems with defensive fighters{Winky}, Floyd is faster, has better legs and hand speed. Mosely edges in power but thats it. Plus, Mosely has looked like he is having stamina problems, and Floyd can go more than 12. If Mosely didn't get a ko within 5, I can't see him winning ever, against Floyd. This fight would resemble the Judah fight. Mosely would start goo, then Floyd would take over and dominate. Shane's speed is not what Floyd's is, that's wrong. His footwork is not as good, and his D is a grade below at least. The biggest separation is stamina. Shane is only stronger because he's been at 147-154 longer than Floyd.
Man i know it hard to remember what shane looked like at 147..that's why he's been having stamina problem he doesn't do as much cardio because he's not natrually even close to 154 he tries to keep his muscle on...that why he looks slow...and the strength is always there he was benching 330+ at 135...i know that does not translate to punching power but it and idea..at his proper weight which would be 147 right now at his age...he'd be light years faster than he his at 154..do you remember his last fight at 147? and shane has just as good footwork as PBF...when have you ever seen shane off balance or reaching with his punches? almost never...the inly time i can remember him off balance was because Oscar hit him with a left while he moving against the ropes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Judah? Shane would muder judah in the ring..it would look like mercer v morrison...shane would put judah in the coma....shane doesn't give up like judah and is stronger to the body than judah...and is way smarter than judah...