Lacy is the no. 1 US SMW but would he be in top25 SMW of Europe?

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Originally Posted by tuckwopat

Well, If he's not good then that doesn't say much for Joe's win. So I guess Joe is still untested and won't fight real opponents. Is that the way it works?

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Yea! I was wondering the same thing. :coolclick:

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Just under Chanet

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...Are you serious? Wow I disagree STRONGLY (seems to be a theme with me and you regarding rankings ;D). First off Chanet got a gift defeating Tyspko. The fight was a draw at least. Then he went on to get KO'd. How is he over Lacy? I mean...I could see an argument for Beyer, but Chanet has looked less then impressive in his last two fights. I would have Lacy #3 behind Kessler. Outside of Chanet, Mkrtchian has beat absolutely noone. I would have a little difficulty placing him in the top 10, running through my head I would probably have him at 10 but above Lacy? Sure he got beat and beat bad but he's still beat better opposition then those two combined. I wouldn't complain with having Beyer over Lacy, it's close, but I would really like to hear explanations on Mkrtchian and Chanet. Especially Chanet.

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When you ask me about ranking someone...I'm sitting here argueing a point on right now...not overall.

No way in hell do I feel that Chanet or Mkrwho? are better than Lacy...but Lacy aint fighting right now...so how do you factor him in. He hasn't made a squeek since the beating & those are the guys that have just so recently fought.

I have Lacy above Chanet & behind Mkrtchian because he took Chanet's spot. Dawson hasnt fought the world...but he's been coming up & he's been just as impressive as all the rest. Basically here's how I'd have it:

1: Joe Calzaghe
2: Mikkel Kessler
3: Markus Beyer
4: Chad Dawson
5: Mger Mkrtchian
6: Jeff Lacy
7: Jackson Chanet
8: Danny Green
9: Brian Magee
10: Anthony Mundine

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I like the list but would put Mundine as no. 3 and Chanet out of top 10 - else very good ranking

Remember that Chanet and his time said no to fight Kessler even Chanet was mandatory to Kessler's WBA title....

Yeah whats with all you guys rating Aussies like Green and Mundine so low. After Green KO's Mundine next wednesday then you will all rank him up there with Kessler and Calzaghe.
By the way i rank Green & Mundine 5 & 6 in my top 10 SMW rankings.
Just behind the three champs and Lacy. But don't agree with me just check out Dan Rafael's rankings from espn cause he ranks them both higher than me.
He ranks Green at 4 & Mundine at 5 and Dan Rafael is American not Australian! ;)

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Originally Posted by kegs06

Yeah whats with all you guys rating Aussies like Green and Mundine so low. After Green KO's Mundine next wednesday then you will all rank him up there with Kessler and Calzaghe.
By the way i rank Green & Mundine 5 & 6 in my top 10 SMW rankings.
Just behind the three champs and Lacy. But don't agree with me just check out Dan Rafael's rankings from espn cause he ranks them both higher than me.
He ranks Green at 4 & Mundine at 5 and Dan Rafael is American not Australian! ;)

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but Dan Rafael is full of shat, and knows about as much as my 2 year old daughter about boxing. He sucks!

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Jeff Lacy
4. Librado Andrade
5. Marcus Beyer
6. Ruddy Markessen
7. Lucian Bute
8. Anthony Mundine
9. Mger Mkertchen
10. Danny Green

yes i'd put lacy at about 3rd. i reckon he'l learn from his mistakes and come back. he would probably knock out most of the fighters on that list.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Just under Chanet

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...Are you serious? Wow I disagree STRONGLY (seems to be a theme with me and you regarding rankings ;D). First off Chanet got a gift defeating Tyspko. The fight was a draw at least. Then he went on to get KO'd. How is he over Lacy? I mean...I could see an argument for Beyer, but Chanet has looked less then impressive in his last two fights. I would have Lacy #3 behind Kessler. Outside of Chanet, Mkrtchian has beat absolutely noone. I would have a little difficulty placing him in the top 10, running through my head I would probably have him at 10 but above Lacy? Sure he got beat and beat bad but he's still beat better opposition then those two combined. I wouldn't complain with having Beyer over Lacy, it's close, but I would really like to hear explanations on Mkrtchian and Chanet. Especially Chanet.

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When you ask me about ranking someone...I'm sitting here argueing a point on right now...not overall.

No way in hell do I feel that Chanet or Mkrwho? are better than Lacy...but Lacy aint fighting right now...so how do you factor him in. He hasn't made a squeek since the beating & those are the guys that have just so recently fought.

I have Lacy above Chanet & behind Mkrtchian because he took Chanet's spot. Dawson hasnt fought the world...but he's been coming up & he's been just as impressive as all the rest. Basically here's how I'd have it:

1: Joe Calzaghe
2: Mikkel Kessler
3: Markus Beyer
4: Chad Dawson
5: Mger Mkrtchian
6: Jeff Lacy
7: Jackson Chanet
8: Danny Green
9: Brian Magee
10: Anthony Mundine

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For god sake, can someone please explain to me why mundine is ranked lower then green? I want proof people! He certainly hasnt fought better people then mundine and hes never been a world champ, hes only been an interim. If we were gonna base it on there last performances for world titles then i think mundine would go ahead hands down. Come may 17th people....greens gonna drop out of those rankings just like mundine drops him to the canvas ;)

whats that all about snakey, i thought you would be defending your man danny green, he's a fellow auzie.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Lacy beats em all cept Calzaghe IMO.

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Agreed!!!


Lacy is not THAT BAD, Calzaghe is just THAT GOOD

yeah calzaghe is that good, but lets be fair again, lacy was shite on the night of the calzaghe fight, he didnt have any answers.

My god how his stock has decreased.
Bring on Kessler so he can get schooled again by a European

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

yeah calzaghe is that good, but lets be fair again, lacy was shite on the night of the calzaghe fight, he didnt have any answers.

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True, but sometimes the other guy is so good on the night that you can't adap, i,e Barrera v Pac

I think it's safe to say cityboy is a hater of American fighters, Roy, B-Hop, Toney, Lacy....anyone else you want to complain about???

Jeff Lacy was too green to fight Calzaghe but he took the fight anyways, fought hard and went the distance, give the guy a break!

Besides Calzaghe what european has proven themselves in the super middleweight division??? I'll give you a hint, it ain't Mikkel Kessler!

cc lyle good shout. I gotta say fair play to lacy for going twelve after the beating he took, and hope he comes back better and proves people wrong he showed great heart.
Im a jc fan by the way aswell

So Lacy learned a lesson vs Calzaghe...he's young, he'll bounce back, though taking a beating over 12 is harder to come back after than a plain KO or TKO...I mean that was demoralizing but he showed his heart to everyone out there.

What's the biggest thing Kessler has done?