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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by buwit

Who cares about boring fighters like ricky hatton, they bore me, wake me up when floyd has his next fight, his the best fighter in the world, probably of all time. what more can he do to shut up all his critics? every fight he has theres someone speculating a certain weakness or something, then he goes out and pastes his opponent.No one can beat him,No one can hurt him no one can touch him, magarito will get done up, oscar will get beat, he'll win every fight his in and retire undefeated.FACT.

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OK NOW.... :alcoholic: Been in Waco's liquor cabinet have you
Mayweather is not even close to the Greatest fighter of all time...Not even in the top 10...There was a small guy some years back that IMO would have gave Floyd a beating even at the lower weight...Sal Sanchez...A Roberto Duran at Lightweight was to much for any fighter then or now...at 147 Leonard would have outboxed him...Hearns would have killed him with his right.......And The hands down greatest fighter of all time is RAY ROBINSON.....Foloyd would have to repeat his career 4 times to even be close....

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I don't agree with a single thing you said... Floyd would have beaten all of them... he was too faster for Sanchez, Robinson. He is a far better boxer than Leonard ever was, and would have countered Hearns and knocked him out. For similar reasons Floyd is too good for SRR, and he is way faster than Robinson. That being said my choice is Roy Jones Jr. ... he dominated so convincingly during his reign on top he only had one close fight... no other fighter made the same calibur of opponents he had look so easy.

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Are you kidding me????...Go to boxrec and look up Ray Robinsons career record and tell me Jones and Mayweather have fought better...If you do it is an out right lie!!!!..........Floyd KO Hearns at 147???...Beat Duran at Lightweight???....Ray Robinson was his best at 147...Most experts when making an all time P4P list base it on all the other fighters but him......Bert Sugar says " In boxing history you have Ray Robinson and then you have the rest"...I have never seen a credible list with him any lower than 2 and that was behind Ali.....This Floyd P4P ever is :censored: :LOS:

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by buwit

Who cares about boring fighters like ricky hatton, they bore me, wake me up when floyd has his next fight, his the best fighter in the world, probably of all time. what more can he do to shut up all his critics? every fight he has theres someone speculating a certain weakness or something, then he goes out and pastes his opponent.No one can beat him,No one can hurt him no one can touch him, magarito will get done up, oscar will get beat, he'll win every fight his in and retire undefeated.FACT.

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OK NOW.... :alcoholic: Been in Waco's liquor cabinet have you
Mayweather is not even close to the Greatest fighter of all time...Not even in the top 10...There was a small guy some years back that IMO would have gave Floyd a beating even at the lower weight...Sal Sanchez...A Roberto Duran at Lightweight was to much for any fighter then or now...at 147 Leonard would have outboxed him...Hearns would have killed him with his right.......And The hands down greatest fighter of all time is RAY ROBINSON.....Foloyd would have to repeat his career 4 times to even be close....

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I don't agree with a single thing you said... Floyd would have beaten all of them... he was too faster for Sanchez, Robinson. He is a far better boxer than Leonard ever was, and would have countered Hearns and knocked him out. For similar reasons Floyd is too good for SRR, and he is way faster than Robinson. That being said my choice is Roy Jones Jr. ... he dominated so convincingly during his reign on top he only had one close fight... no other fighter made the same calibur of opponents he had look so easy.

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Are you kidding me????...Go to boxrec and look up Ray Robinsons career record and tell me Jones and Mayweather have fought better...If you do it is an out right lie!!!!..........Floyd KO Hearns at 147???...Beat Duran at Lightweight???....Ray Robinson was his best at 147...Most experts when making an all time P4P list base it on all the other fighters but him......Bert Sugar says " In boxing history you have Ray Robinson and then you have the rest"...I have never seen a credible list with him any lower than 2 and that was behind Ali.....This Floyd P4P ever is :censored: :LOS:

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4 months from now you'll be changing your tune.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

You need to get Leonard's overrated a** out of the list. The boy was not great. Good and great are two diffrent categories. Leonard doesn't belong in great. That's what the SC was for.

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The only one that doesnt belong on that list in PBF.

Hagler should be on there without a doubt. The man was a machine and my favourite fighter of all time.

The best fighter in his prime was Mike Tyson, dude.. The freakin' head basher. Tyson Rocks Well. :rocks:

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The best fighter in his prime was Mike Tyson, dude.. The freakin' head basher. Tyson Rocks Well. :rocks:

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F$#KIN RIGHT DOGGY :jabbing:

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Originally Posted by buwit

Who cares about boring fighters like ricky hatton, they bore me, wake me up when floyd has his next fight, his the best fighter in the world, probably of all time. what more can he do to shut up all his critics? every fight he has theres someone speculating a certain weakness or something, then he goes out and pastes his opponent.No one can beat him,No one can hurt him no one can touch him, magarito will get done up, oscar will get beat, he'll win every fight his in and retire undefeated.FACT.

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As I said in another thread - Henry Brussels, Gatti 10-5 for 15 fights prior to Mayweather, Mitchell - coming off a loss & Zudah coming off a loss - his opposition aint exactly got better lately!! Don't get me wrong I think he's awesome, but he is going backwards in terms of opposition.

...and if we are talking about the greatest, I reckon you've probabaly missed out 4 of the top 5

Ray Robinson,
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pepp
Roberto Duran

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

You need to get Leonard's overrated a** out of the list. The boy was not great. Good and great are two diffrent categories. Leonard doesn't belong in great. That's what the SC was for.

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The only one that doesnt belong on that list in PBF.

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Here take your 16th.

Out of the ones listed I say Tyson.

He was at one time, an awesome fighter.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by buwit

Who cares about boring fighters like ricky hatton, they bore me, wake me up when floyd has his next fight, his the best fighter in the world, probably of all time. what more can he do to shut up all his critics? every fight he has theres someone speculating a certain weakness or something, then he goes out and pastes his opponent.No one can beat him,No one can hurt him no one can touch him, magarito will get done up, oscar will get beat, he'll win every fight his in and retire undefeated.FACT.

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OK NOW.... :alcoholic: Been in Waco's liquor cabinet have you
Mayweather is not even close to the Greatest fighter of all time...Not even in the top 10...There was a small guy some years back that IMO would have gave Floyd a beating even at the lower weight...Sal Sanchez...A Roberto Duran at Lightweight was to much for any fighter then or now...at 147 Leonard would have outboxed him...Hearns would have killed him with his right.......And The hands down greatest fighter of all time is RAY ROBINSON.....Foloyd would have to repeat his career 4 times to even be close....

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ray robinson is the best of all time no doubt....but leonard and hearns would both both be beaten by floyd..leonard wasn't smart enough to beat flat footed duran the first time so i doubt he could out thiink PBF...and hearns was and always will be an all time good not great fighter that came up short against the top fighters of his era..and he'd lose to floyd as well....

Although I am no fan of Tyson's because of his out of the ring antics, I'd have to pick him as the best at his peak. Destroying his division's best from 1986-89 was great. Even those who made it the distance with him (Tucker, Bonehugger Smith) never amounted to much afterwards.

Ali and Leonard lost out as they went away from boxing as they hit their peaks, Ali due to his political views and his fight against the draft, and Leonard due to the eye injury. So we never saw the truly best they could be. Sure Leonard got the decision over Hagler, but many still cry robbery and it was downhill from there for Leonard. He managed 2 wins, 2 losses and a draw after the Hagler fight.

Floyd, I believe, is at his peak and if he stays at 147 and cleans out his division, then I will change my vote to him. (I guess I can't change my vote but you know what I mean) If he had stayed in one division for awhile and beat every one of the four major title holders (WBO, WBC, WBA and IBF) I would have voted for him for that reason too.

Jones was, I admit, a dominate fighter at LH for like 8 years but there was one guy he bypassed. The then-WBO champion Michalczewski is one of them. Whether or not Dariusz wanted to leave Europe to fight Jones, I am not sure of. But it never seemed like Jones ever told him to put up or shut up. That and the fact that while Jones was picking up the then-vacant WBC LH title, Dariusz was unifying the WBO, IBF and WBA titles against Virgil Hill (he ended up dumping the WBA and IBF titles, probably because dealing with the hassles ofthree sanctioning bodies would make a fighter want to drink Drano) kind of dampens his reign a little for me.

Just my thoughts. Sad click if you take this as a Jones hate thing, cool click me if you agree about the Michalczewski thing.

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Although I am no fan of Tyson's because of his out of the ring antics, I'd have to pick him as the best at his peak. Destroying his division's best from 1986-89 was great. Even those who made it the distance with him (Tucker, Bonehugger Smith) never amounted to much afterwards.

Ali and Leonard lost out as they went away from boxing as they hit their peaks, Ali due to his political views and his fight against the draft, and Leonard due to the eye injury. So we never saw the truly best they could be. Sure Leonard got the decision over Hagler, but many still cry robbery and it was downhill from there for Leonard. He managed 2 wins, 2 losses and a draw after the Hagler fight.

Floyd, I believe, is at his peak and if he stays at 147 and cleans out his division, then I will change my vote to him. (I guess I can't change my vote but you know what I mean) If he had stayed in one division for awhile and beat every one of the four major title holders (WBO, WBC, WBA and IBF) I would have voted for him for that reason too.

Jones was, I admit, a dominate fighter at LH for like 8 years but there was one guy he bypassed. The then-WBO champion Michalczewski is one of them. Whether or not Dariusz wanted to leave Europe to fight Jones, I am not sure of. But it never seemed like Jones ever told him to put up or shut up. That and the fact that while Jones was picking up the then-vacant WBC LH title, Dariusz was unifying the WBO, IBF and WBA titles against Virgil Hill (he ended up dumping the WBA and IBF titles, probably because dealing with the hassles ofthree sanctioning bodies would make a fighter want to drink Drano) kind of dampens his reign a little for me.

Just my thoughts. Sad click if you take this as a Jones hate thing, cool click me if you agree about the Michalczewski thing.

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Tyson reigned during one of the worst periods for heavyweights of all time. He has never, not once, beaten any truly great fighter. He would have been utterly destroyed by the likes of Ali. Exciting does not equate to great. I wouldn't put Tyson in the top 50 greatest fighters of all time. He may just sneak into my top 100.

You have to judge on the calibre of opposition. It's all very well beating up on subpar opposition. Seriously, who did Tyson beat to place him among the greatest of all time?

Mayweather.

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Originally Posted by buwit

Who cares about boring fighters like ricky hatton, they bore me, wake me up when floyd has his next fight, his the best fighter in the world, probably of all time. what more can he do to shut up all his critics? every fight he has theres someone speculating a certain weakness or something, then he goes out and pastes his opponent.No one can beat him,No one can hurt him no one can touch him, magarito will get done up, oscar will get beat, he'll win every fight his in and retire undefeated.FACT.

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As I said in another thread - Henry Brussels, Gatti 10-5 for 15 fights prior to Mayweather, Mitchell - coming off a loss & Zudah coming off a loss - his opposition aint exactly got better lately!! Don't get me wrong I think he's awesome, but he is going backwards in terms of opposition.

...and if we are talking about the greatest, I reckon you've probabaly missed out 4 of the top 5

Ray Robinson,
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pepp
Roberto Duran

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Roberto duran was 19-10 against god to great opposition...which makes him highly overrated....

Duran’s prime was up to the first Leonard Fight, and at that point he was 71-1 one of the greatest records ever, and definitely, imo, the greatest Lightweight Ever!!

He started his career at 120 lbs and 15 years after that, 3 years after his prime and almost 40 pounds above his debut fighting weight he was level after 12 rounds against, imo, the greatest middleweight in history in Marvin Hagler!