Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
When has Hatton fought a PBF style fighter though? I mean Floyd has fought pressure fighters but Floyd's style is VERY different than anyone else in the division other than De la Hoya and even then there are big differences between them.
No one is as fast or defensivly slick as Floyd! Hatton's style is easier to mimick it's the intagibles that he brings that I think would be tough for Floyd to handle, also Cotto's style would be tough for him. The body is what will take down Floyd either that or a guy with a quick right cross
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
I realize much of you here are in denial. Saddo, included. But the facts remain, Hatton got exposed. He has no defense. Don't you Hatton supporters realize PBF is waaaay faster than Collazo? Don't gimme the excuse that it was cuz he's southpaw. 2 main points are Hatton only comes forward, no side to side movement, and he has NO defense. None!! PBF would have a field day picking him apart. "But he would smother PBF". How? PBF's too fast for Hatton to catch him on the ropes.
Ricky, for your career's sake, go back to 140 before it's too late.
Did you watch last nights??? Hatton doesnt have to have you on the Ropes to smother you...He is ALWAYS in your face, he smothers you in the middle of the ring.....People who know nothing of hatton shouldnt be talking.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
Jesus Christ It was a bad night. This is like the Castillo - PBF fight only opposite. PBF looked terrible that fight as did Hatton last night and both have had bad matchups against fighters with opposing styles. Haton's style has been proven to give PBF fits at times and PBF's style has been proven to give Hatton trouble. How Hatton does in a second Collazo fight is key imo.
I know I should have expected as much but in 41 fights the guy gets troubled once and suddenly he isn't good enough to carry another fighter's jock. Get ahold of yourselves. Was it a bad night? Yes. Could he have shown more? God yes. Would PBF have beaten him last night? Without question. Is this performance more telling then his 40 other fights? NO.
It was definitely Collazo. I hadn't seen him fight before last night. But I really did expect Hatton to walk through Collazo, causing the boxing public to beg for a Hatton vs PBF show down. Not so... Collazo handed out an ass whoopin' that Hatton will never forget, though he will wish he could. Collazo deserves credit for that performance.
To me... at 147lbs Hatton is just a prospect. I do not want to see him against DLH, PBF or Margarito right now. I'd like to see him fighting with the likes of Gatti, Baldomir, Cintron, hell Estrada would be interesting I think and very winnable for Hatton. Hatton needs to prove himself at this weight before I my mouth starts to water over PBF vs Hatton like it once was. At this point, I see PBF moving in and out, in and to the side, landing quick combinations each time.
I disagree. I don't think that it was just that it was a bad night... I think that maybe Collazo needs a bit of credit here.
One of two or three things needs to be taken into consideration...#1: Hatton started gassing out & his power fell off or #2: Collazo has one hell of a chin or #3: Hatton needs to be back @ 140 where he can dominate.
He's been troubled more than just once in 41 fights. That being said...he's still all good in the neighborhood...but he's got a lot to work on once he hits the established me @ 147 apparently. Hatton himself stated that it was Collazo...that he had prepared for war & what not & that his conditioning was fine. I just think that Collazo was that tricky.
I don't agree with the majority of haters on here though...last night isn't that damning...but I do feel that he didn't deserve the nod...either that or a draw.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
When has Hatton fought a PBF style fighter though? I mean Floyd has fought pressure fighters but Floyd's style is VERY different than anyone else in the division other than De la Hoya and even then there are big differences between them.
No one is as fast or defensivly slick as Floyd! Hatton's style is easier to mimick it's the intagibles that he brings that I think would be tough for Floyd to handle, also Cotto's style would be tough for him. The body is what will take down Floyd either that or a guy with a quick right cross
you know what i would really like to see now...
Hatton - Cotto
PBF - DLH
a mix of the 4 aint bad but that is the real fights id love to see come off ;)
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
Jesus Christ It was a bad night. This is like the Castillo - PBF fight only opposite. PBF looked terrible that fight as did Hatton last night and both have had bad matchups against fighters with opposing styles. Haton's style has been proven to give PBF fits at times and PBF's style has been proven to give Hatton trouble. How Hatton does in a second Collazo fight is key imo.
I know I should have expected as much but in 41 fights the guy gets troubled once and suddenly he isn't good enough to carry another fighter's jock. Get ahold of yourselves. Was it a bad night? Yes. Could he have shown more? God yes. Would PBF have beaten him last night? Without question. Is this performance more telling then his 40 other fights? NO.
It was definitely Collazo. I hadn't seen him fight before last night. But I really did expect Hatton to walk through Collazo, causing the boxing public to beg for a Hatton vs PBF show down. Not so... Collazo handed out an ass whoopin' that Hatton will never forget, though he will wish he could. Collazo deserves credit for that performance.
To me... at 147lbs Hatton is just a prospect. I do not want to see him against DLH, PBF or Margarito right now. I'd like to see him fighting with the likes of Gatti, Baldomir, Cintron, hell Estrada would be interesting I think and very winnable for Hatton. Hatton needs to prove himself at this weight before I my mouth starts to water over PBF vs Hatton like it once was. At this point, I see PBF moving in and out, in and to the side, landing quick combinations each time.
I disagree. I don't think that it was just that it was a bad night... I think that maybe Collazo needs a bit of credit here.
One of two or three things needs to be taken into consideration...#1: Hatton started gassing out & his power fell off or #2: Collazo has one hell of a chin or #3: Hatton needs to be back @ 140 where he can dominate.
He's been troubled more than just once in 41 fights. That being said...he's still all good in the neighborhood...but he's got a lot to work on once he hits the established me @ 147 apparently. Hatton himself stated that it was Collazo...that he had prepared for war & what not & that his conditioning was fine. I just think that Collazo was that tricky.
I don't agree with the majority of haters on here though...last night isn't that damning...but I do feel that he didn't deserve the nod...either that or a draw.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
Haton's style has been proven to give PBF fits at times and PBF's style has been proven to give Hatton trouble.
that is by far the quote of the year 8)
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truth is Hatton and Mayweather have proven they are better at the lower weights so it dosnt matter what weight they fight at its gonna be a classic ;)
Sorry but I can only say that for hatton right now. The verdict is still out for floyd. I say this cause floyd did have trouble with zab for a brief second then went on to look pretty good as oppose to hatton who barely survived under the power of a light-hitter and looked bad.Floyds skill can take him places in ww division that hattons can't. Floyd defense and offense will be able to carry him against those big hitters. I think hattons lack of defense will be his down fall not only at welter but at light welter too.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
When has Hatton fought a PBF style fighter though?
They have the same general style, slick, fast and accurate. Of course PBF is better, but it's the same general style. And Floyd hasn't fought any pressure fighter half as good as Hatton since Castillo where he first had real trouble. Hatton will rebound in the second fight much like PBF did in the second Castillo fight imo. I know us PBF fans hate the Castillo fight being brought up in regards to Hatton but it has to.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
floyd did have trouble with zab for a brief second
it was alot longer than a second... Zab shot his load too early and gave up ;)
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Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Starr
Like Hatton ;)
Happens to lots of fighter, especially ones that are out to prove something
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
Hatton should have switched up his gameplan then, like Floyd had to. All I saw was plan A all night from Ricky.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by Starr
Like Hatton ;)
no not at all... if Zab had been seeing birds in the 12th like Hatton he'd be trying to throw a stool at the ref....
Hatton was all heart last night ;)
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
Last time Zab was seeing birds he came back and won a few rounds but still lost the decision. He showed his heart in the Baldomir fight.
Hatton showed last night that he can't go to plan B.
At least when Zab was hurt he stopped trying to use his standing lean trade and tried to box from the outside and pot shot Baldomir to try to bank rounds.
Hatton on the other hand did what he had done from round 1 and that is march forward. He never changed his gameplan.
He will show character if he gives Collazo a rematch
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
Jesus Christ It was a bad night. This is like the Castillo - PBF fight only opposite. PBF looked terrible that fight as did Hatton last night and both have had bad matchups against fighters with opposing styles. Haton's style has been proven to give PBF fits at times and PBF's style has been proven to give Hatton trouble. How Hatton does in a second Collazo fight is key imo.
I know I should have expected as much but in 41 fights the guy gets troubled once and suddenly he isn't good enough to carry another fighter's jock. Get ahold of yourselves. Was it a bad night? Yes. Could he have shown more? God yes. Would PBF have beaten him last night? Without question. Is this performance more telling then his 40 other fights? NO.
The difference is Floyd, after his only close and controversal win, gave Castillo a rematch to prove he was the man. It's just too bad Hatton doesn't have the cojones to do the same with Collazo.
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
...where have you been, Hatton said he's for a rematch.