Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
Seriously Toney needs to go away and stop getting shots... this would be his third in a row... He's doing nothing for the division except stalling the belts coming back together... The only thing which will save the heavy weight division is having one undisputed champ with the majority of the belts... you could say Vitali was undisputed but he only had the WBC belt and the place was a mess and only get worse when he left.
All we need is Wlad to get Rahman's belt... (he will ;)) and Wlad to get Valeuvs belt (though I'd settle for Rahman :P).
as long as its some one who can get the belts and keep the belts together long enough to establish some lineage again...
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
If anybody can unify the belts it is W.Klitschko.
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Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
I consider most on this forum to be "educated boxing fans". And then again........there are the ones who think that Toney could beat Wlad.
Am I missing something here?
Toney will literally get tenderized. I don't care how light Toney comes in, if Wlad corners him he's f^cked!
Wlad throws very quick punches. Toney does not stand a chance in this one and I bet that this fight won't even happen. Toney will say that the money's not right or something like that.
At least no one's dumb enough to think that Wlads chin would be a factor in this match up.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
I heard this too
He has done nothing in the HW division to merit so many shots.
He is a fat arrogant asshole and to see a boxer so out of shape is a joke
the only reason i can think of is maybe cos he still attracts an audience...
average Rahman exposed him!
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
Wlad is to precise, powerfull and rangey for that fat slug to do anything.... if he trys to do his usual rely on the ropes and rely on the other guy to come inside he'll get a shock because Wlad isn't stupid.... if he trys to come forwards he'll loose and do worse than Chris Byrd did.
Sam peter couldn't keep Wlad down and Toney couldn't even get him down in the first place.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
Yeah, a title for James Toney right now is a pipe dream...he fought Hasim Rahman totally different than he fought John Ruiz and maybe the steroids really did have something to do with it. I mean he wasn't as active with Rahman, he didn't hit as hard vs Rahman, he fought like he looked vs Rahman.
If Toney has a shot at anyone it's Valuev because he's big, slow, and untalented....all the other title holders would whip his fat ass
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
Vlad is just trying to keep busy. If they fight in September Vlad will try to get a fight with Rahman in Dec or Jan, if Don King allows it. Don King will want to control as many titles as possible. This will be Toney's last fight, he will get a big pay day and retire. Don King will allow the Belarussian to fight Valuev and control those two titles. But Don King will never lose his grip on the heaveyweight division.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
Toney keeps getting shots BECAUSE of his arrogance, he is always in the media of having said something controversial, hence more media, hence more viewership, a sad fact really but that is why he gets so many shots not because he's earned it, but because he sells himself better.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
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I think that this would be very interesting, Vlad has to keep busy and Toney does have a good reputation or had a good rep. If Toney shows up at around 230 there will be less of him to knock out.
I didn’t think Toney deserved a shot at Rahman frog jumping Maskev nor has he deserved a shot at Wladimir, but both fighters could make good finances out of such a mismatch.
I really don’t see Toney winning this even he is fit and all the other question marks always surrounding him are in plus.
Toney on his best day would never beat Wlad on Wlad’s purest day in HW, IMO.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by coog
I think that this would be very interesting, Vlad has to keep busy and Toney does have a good reputation or had a good rep. If Toney shows up at around 230 there will be less of him to knock out.
I didn’t think Toney deserved a shot at Rahman frog jumping Maskev nor has he deserved a shot at Wladimir, but both fighters could make good finances out of such a mismatch.
I really don’t see Toney winning this even he is fit and all the other question marks always surrounding him are in plus.
Toney on his best day would never beat Wlad on Wlad’s purest day in HW, IMO.
a fit toney can beat wlad...
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by coog
I think that this would be very interesting, Vlad has to keep busy and Toney does have a good reputation or had a good rep. If Toney shows up at around 230 there will be less of him to knock out.
I didn’t think Toney deserved a shot at Rahman frog jumping Maskev nor has he deserved a shot at Wladimir, but both fighters could make good finances out of such a mismatch.
I really don’t see Toney winning this even he is fit and all the other question marks always surrounding him are in plus.
Toney on his best day would never beat Wlad on Wlad’s purest day in HW, IMO.
a fit toney can beat wlad...
Wlad throws to quick...it won't happen. Toney would eventually get caught and stunned.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by coog
I think that this would be very interesting, Vlad has to keep busy and Toney does have a good reputation or had a good rep. If Toney shows up at around 230 there will be less of him to knock out.
I didn’t think Toney deserved a shot at Rahman frog jumping Maskev nor has he deserved a shot at Wladimir, but both fighters could make good finances out of such a mismatch.
I really don’t see Toney winning this even he is fit and all the other question marks always surrounding him are in plus.
Toney on his best day would never beat Wlad on Wlad’s purest day in HW, IMO.
a fit toney can beat wlad...
Yeah OK...James Toney has done what to merit that post? I mean Wlad has been beat by hard punchers and guys with stamina and good chins....Toney has basically lost to Hasim Rahman and beat some nobodies....Wlad even on an off night would whip a "fit James Toney"...he can box too good
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by azumir
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Originally Posted by coog
I think that this would be very interesting, Vlad has to keep busy and Toney does have a good reputation or had a good rep. If Toney shows up at around 230 there will be less of him to knock out.
I didn’t think Toney deserved a shot at Rahman frog jumping Maskev nor has he deserved a shot at Wladimir, but both fighters could make good finances out of such a mismatch.
I really don’t see Toney winning this even he is fit and all the other question marks always surrounding him are in plus.
Toney on his best day would never beat Wlad on Wlad’s purest day in HW, IMO.
a fit toney can beat wlad...
Yeah OK...James Toney has done what to merit that post? I mean Wlad has been beat by hard punchers and guys with stamina and good chins....Toney has basically lost to Hasim Rahman and beat some nobodies....Wlad even on an off night would whip a "fit James Toney"...he can box too good
im serious, a fit and focussed toney would be a real handful for wlad....
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
I see Wlad laying back and putting on a jab clinic.....when Toney ries to come in it will be the left hook. Toney is a good counter puncher but I see Wlad doubling the jab and then eventually throwing combos. Once the straight right lands its all over.
Re: I read that Toney may fight Klitschko in Sept. what will happen here?
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
I consider most on this forum to be "educated boxing fans". And then again........there are the ones who think that Toney could beat Wlad.
Am I missing something here?
Toney will literally get tenderized. I don't care how light Toney comes in, if Wlad corners him he's f^cked!
Wlad throws very quick punches. Toney does not stand a chance in this one and I bet that this fight won't even happen. Toney will say that the money's not right or something like that.
At least no one's dumb enough to think that Wlads chin would be a factor in this match up.
No but Wlad's stamina problems and heart could come into play. My response to the insults to those who think Toney could beat Wlad is this: there are boxing fans on here and then there are Klitheads and Toney haters. The Klitheads/Toney haters know who they are.
