Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by GAME
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the guy annihilated you in front of your most loyal fans
KOed your greatest rival morales whom you never even floored
Barrera floored Morales in round 12 of the 1st fight . That was a prime Morales aswel not a washed up faded version
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and seems to beat every mexican who gets in his way
Marquez owned Pac and everyone saw it . So did Erik
Dude,firs point,veeeeeeeeeery weak,that was no knockdown! No way in hell.Second point,agreed 100%,I like all4 (3 mexicans and Pac) and Pac is not invincible as can be witnessed from the JMM fight. Marquez took Pac back to school and made him look crude. Of course,credit where it is due,Pac crushed MAB and EM but prime MAB beats Pac and EM has already pounded him. I don't like when Pac is OVER hpyed.Great boxer:hell yeah,as legendary as EM and MAB,hell naw¬!
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
Well it was counted as a knockdown so we are debating with official facts not opinions. Barrera floored Morales . His legs were tired , he almost knocked him through the ropes 1st then Erik went down cuz he didnt have the leg strength . You cant just take a knee and not expect a count .
Barrera for the record also floored Pac ;)
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by GAME
Well it was counted as a knockdown so we are debating with official facts not opinions. Barrera floored Morales . His legs were tired , he almost knocked him through the ropes 1st then Erik went down cuz he didnt have the leg strength . You cant just take a knee and not expect a count .
Barrera for the record also floored Pac ;)
dude are you for real?
your a hypocrite!!!
cmon! your a boxing fan!
you know what a knockdown really is
your a fan not a judge who shall count every thing 'officially'
dont bring your fighters up by doing that
cuz your bringing them lower
tsk. tsk. tsk..
:P
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by pacdog
This would make him legendary but there is no doubt he will get dominated again...... But ill eat my words and concede to you barrera lovers that he is a legend if he wins,
Barrera was considered already a legend prior to the PAC fight....why would the loss to PAC effect that ???
PAC beat a legendary fihgter in MAB.
I can assure you there are many fighters out there who wished they had half of the sucess that MAB has had....
Even if he looses a 2nd fight with PAC, IMO even that wouldn't effect his legendary status.
I would actually be looking out for PAC and see if he can continue fighting at top level for as long as MAB did....
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by _the_answer_
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Originally Posted by GAME
Well it was counted as a knockdown so we are debating with official facts not opinions. Barrera floored Morales . His legs were tired , he almost knocked him through the ropes 1st then Erik went down cuz he didnt have the leg strength . You cant just take a knee and not expect a count .
Barrera for the record also floored Pac ;)
dude are you for real?
your a hypocrite!!!
cmon! your a boxing fan!
you know what a knockdown really is
your a fan not a judge who shall count every thing 'officially'
dont bring your fighters up by doing that
cuz your bringing them lower
tsk. tsk. tsk..
:P
Hypocrite ???
Theres some decisions in boxing that you dont agree with
Oscar - Sturm
Oscar - Tito
Lewis - Holyfield
However we cant disregard them and pretend they didnt happen . Officially its what the record books say that counts . Barrera never lost to Morales in the 1st fight but we have to accept the decision
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
Pac beats MAB every time,MAB is great champ and he is legend already I have a lot respect for him but how can you post that Pac fought washed Morales and got beaten by Marquez,Pac should of won that fight if the judge score 10-6 round. Give credit to Pacman too he deserved,he fought so far best of the best.
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
Barrera is already a legend.
Just out of curiousity...will all the Pacfans disappear for months again if he loses to Larios?
I mean...when Morales kicked the shat outta Pac in the first fight...I shat you not...you coulda hear a mouse far on this forum.
Also...people say that Manny beat JMM...ummmmmmmmmm...Marquez came back from being knockdown 3 times & rocked Pac & then hung with him the rest of the fight outscoring him in the late rounds...that was a draw if I have ever seen one...you Pac fans just can't stand the thought that a little bitty weak tactician took all his power & kept on coming...
It would take Pac years to accomplish what Barrera has...so STFU with this bullshat about Barrera not being a legend.
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
True MAB is legend even before he fought Pac,like him and respect him like fighter and person,only what I saying that give respect to Pacman too he doesn't duck anyone,yes he have weaknesses but i love to watch him he is all action and pressure fighter.Marquez come back in that fight but if judge give 10-6 round where he was KTFO 3 times Pac would of won that fight.
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by sillent killer
True MAB is legend even before he fought Pac,like him and respect him like fighter and person,only what I saying that give respect to Pacman too he doesn't duck anyone,yes he have weaknesses but i love to watch him he is all action and pressure fighter.Marquez come back in that fight but if judge give 10-6 round where he was KTFO 3 times Pac would of won that fight.
No no no...I agree...& that post wasn't directed at you...unless your'e a rabid Pacfan...which to your credit you don't seem to be.
I love to watch Pac too...I can't say that I am a fan...but he is entertaining.
The scoring of the first round was a bit wack indeed...but also...the judges scoring do often go on drama too.
By that I mean...he came back from a grueling beating & that impressed them enough to see it as a draw probably.
Judges often score on shat like that...right or wrong...just like they score on the site of blood too...or not that they necessarily score...but it influences them...know what I mean?
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by sillent killer
True MAB is legend even before he fought Pac,like him and respect him like fighter and person,only what I saying that give respect to Pacman too he doesn't duck anyone,yes he have weaknesses but i love to watch him he is all action and pressure fighter.Marquez come back in that fight but if judge give 10-6 round where he was KTFO 3 times Pac would of won that fight.
No no no...I agree...& that post wasn't directed at you...unless your'e a rabid Pacfan...which to your credit you don't seem to be.
I love to watch Pac too...I can't say that I am a fan...but he is entertaining.
The scoring of the first round was a bit wack indeed...but also...the judges scoring do often go on drama too.
By that I mean...he came back from a grueling beating & that impressed them enough to see it as a draw probably.
Judges often score on shat like that...right or wrong...just like they score on the site of blood too...or not that they necessarily score...but it influences them...know what I mean?
Have a CC wack and no I am not a rabid pacfan lol just love to watch him
Re: If an donly if barrera beats pac will he be a legend
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Originally Posted by sillent killer
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by sillent killer
True MAB is legend even before he fought Pac,like him and respect him like fighter and person,only what I saying that give respect to Pacman too he doesn't duck anyone,yes he have weaknesses but i love to watch him he is all action and pressure fighter.Marquez come back in that fight but if judge give 10-6 round where he was KTFO 3 times Pac would of won that fight.
No no no...I agree...& that post wasn't directed at you...unless your'e a rabid Pacfan...which to your credit you don't seem to be.
I love to watch Pac too...I can't say that I am a fan...but he is entertaining.
The scoring of the first round was a bit wack indeed...but also...the judges scoring do often go on drama too.
By that I mean...he came back from a grueling beating & that impressed them enough to see it as a draw probably.
Judges often score on shat like that...right or wrong...just like they score on the site of blood too...or not that they necessarily score...but it influences them...know what I mean?
Have a CC wack and no I am not a rabid pacfan lol just love to watch him
...and one right back babe.
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