Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Starr
haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
Whatcha mean?
Veit aint that bad of a fighter...he just go smoked by Joe.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Starr
haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Starr
haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
That's cuz most were either past there primes (Brewer, Mitchell, Eubanks) or just plain sucked (Veit, Pudwill, Ashira, Mkrtchian, McIntyre, Salem). Damn, now that I think about it. Calzaghe fought alot of garbage fighters
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.
The difficulty he won, if that was Joe it would have been a first round knockout ;)
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.
They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by Starr
haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden ;D
Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.
The difficulty he won, if that was Joe it would have been a first round knockout ;)
Are you being sarcastic?
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Veit is not a factor in the division. He had his chance twice and blew them
true...and I think the main person in the division needs to unify it ... go JOE C....
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.
They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.
Now, now you said he was the best German SMW ever, let's not back track. He might not be a total bum, but since he lost to Veit he's clearly not that good. Much less great.
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Veit is not a factor in the division. He had his chance twice and blew them
true...and I think the main person in the division needs to unify it ... go JOE C....
Cc for seeing the truth
Re: Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.
What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.
Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think ;)
The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.
He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.
They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.
Now, now you said he was the best German SMW ever, let's not back track. He might not be a total bum, but since he lost to Veit he's clearly not that good. Much less great.
Well it was a mistype, and I didn't say he was the greatest, I said he was being regarded as the greatest. And Veit's only 2 losses have come at the hands of Calzaghe, the division's best, I don't see how you could hold that against him. Will he ever be champ? No I don't think so. Could he possibly beat a top 5 fighter? Absolutely. I would give him a chance against Kessler, Lacy and Beyer.
