Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by miles
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I think Froch has the tools to go very far and defo win a world title.
His power is fierce and his oddball style would give Calzaghe problems ;)
Froch can F8cking bang make no mistake about that people. 8)
no, a fit calzaghe would destroy him.....froch is game but needs more experience....
Froch wouldn't get by anyone in the top 5 but maybe Beyer imo. Lacy, Kessler and Calzaghe would destroy him imo.
He is open
Yup. He has no defense at all and he leaves his chin out in the open. He's fun to watch but he won't excel to the top ranks imo.
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
Because that is the only mark on Lacy's record and i's not even a bad one really. He took on the best fighter in the division after only 20 fights. He fought in Calzaghe's backyard. He fought on Calzaghe's schedule, after the fight being delayed. He kind of cracked under the pressure, that happens and can be fixed through teaching, but even when his own mind and skill abandoned him, his heart didn't and that isn't something that can be taught.
Meanwhile, Green got worked by a guy who a lot of people would contest being in the top 5 in Mundine. Plus he lost to Beyer twice (and the first was result of his own stupidity as he could have fought on cruise control and still won easy).
And CC returned to Miles and Game. Agree with the both of you.
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Smashup
I think Froch has the tools to go very far and defo win a world title.
His power is fierce and his oddball style would give Calzaghe problems ;)
Froch can F8cking bang make no mistake about that people. 8)
no, a fit calzaghe would destroy him.....froch is game but needs more experience....
Froch wouldn't get by anyone in the top 5 but maybe Beyer imo. Lacy, Kessler and Calzaghe would destroy him imo.
CC,too true. Lacy would eat him alive,as would Calzaghe.He is open,1 dimensional and cocky too! Yes,I don't like him!
It must be a perfect match, you must be talking about the bodybuilder Lacy without boxing skills - Lacy is EXTREMELY one dimensional, cockny and slow... - do we agree?
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by go Danny
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Smashup
I think Froch has the tools to go very far and defo win a world title.
His power is fierce and his oddball style would give Calzaghe problems ;)
Froch can F8cking bang make no mistake about that people. 8)
no, a fit calzaghe would destroy him.....froch is game but needs more experience....
Froch wouldn't get by anyone in the top 5 but maybe Beyer imo. Lacy, Kessler and Calzaghe would destroy him imo.
CC,too true. Lacy would eat him alive,as would Calzaghe.He is open,1 dimensional and cocky too! Yes,I don't like him!
It must be a perfect match, you must be talking about the bodybuilder Lacy without boxing skills - Lacy is EXTREMELY one dimensional, cockny and slow... - do we agree?
Cocky? No way. One dimensional? Yeah I guess you could say that but he is still the more rounded fighter. Slow? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by go Danny
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Smashup
I think Froch has the tools to go very far and defo win a world title.
His power is fierce and his oddball style would give Calzaghe problems ;)
Froch can F8cking bang make no mistake about that people. 8)
no, a fit calzaghe would destroy him.....froch is game but needs more experience....
Froch wouldn't get by anyone in the top 5 but maybe Beyer imo. Lacy, Kessler and Calzaghe would destroy him imo.
CC,too true. Lacy would eat him alive,as would Calzaghe.He is open,1 dimensional and cocky too! Yes,I don't like him!
It must be a perfect match, you must be talking about the bodybuilder Lacy without boxing skills - Lacy is EXTREMELY one dimensional, cockny and slow... - do we agree?
Cocky? No way. One dimensional? Yeah I guess you could say that but he is still the more rounded fighter. Slow? I don't think so.
Okay, fair nuf but where would you rates him tadys?
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
Close fight with mundine, which fight were you watching. Danny was lucky to win two rounds in that fight, i gave him one round.
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
I'm a Danny Green fan, but sorry Mundine tought him a lesson, at BEST Green won 2 rounds.
I had him only winning 1 round, with 1 round even.
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
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Originally Posted by miles
calzaghe is top dog no doubt....kessler at 2 is fine by my book....
i wanna see lacy come back because i think he's better than 5th....can be top 3 IMO, perhaps higher...
what is this a european top ten?.....where's Joppy, Bute, Grant, Mack or Manfredo? I didn't see these names in most of the posts...ok I'll say the Manfredo migh be a stretch...maybe...but what about the rest?..
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
Close fight with mundine, which fight were you watching. Danny was lucky to win two rounds in that fight, i gave him one round.
So how manny rounds did you gave him against daneish MICHAEL? 10? :-d
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
Because that is the only mark on Lacy's record and i's not even a bad one really. He took on the best fighter in the division after only 20 fights. He fought in Calzaghe's backyard. He fought on Calzaghe's schedule, after the fight being delayed. He kind of cracked under the pressure, that happens and can be fixed through teaching, but even when his own mind and skill abandoned him, his heart didn't and that isn't something that can be taught.
Meanwhile, Green got worked by a guy who a lot of people would contest being in the top 5 in Mundine. Plus he lost to Beyer twice (and the first was result of his own stupidity as he could have fought on cruise control and still won easy).
And CC returned to Miles and Game. Agree with the both of you.
It might be the only record on Lacy´s record, but to be honest no one else should be able to make any either. Remember that he struggled against less than average Ross Thomson and Rubin Williams - and that he had very problems against Sheika and Wiggins.
Lacy is a boxing bum - I guess that we all know.
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I think it was a fair list....Froch could creep in soon.
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Originally Posted by go Danny
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by go Danny
Good reading and fine ranking, but why is Lacy above Green? Lacy was blown out with Calzaghe and Danny-boy had a close fight wiht Mundine?
Because that is the only mark on Lacy's record and i's not even a bad one really. He took on the best fighter in the division after only 20 fights. He fought in Calzaghe's backyard. He fought on Calzaghe's schedule, after the fight being delayed. He kind of cracked under the pressure, that happens and can be fixed through teaching, but even when his own mind and skill abandoned him, his heart didn't and that isn't something that can be taught.
Meanwhile, Green got worked by a guy who a lot of people would contest being in the top 5 in Mundine. Plus he lost to Beyer twice (and the first was result of his own stupidity as he could have fought on cruise control and still won easy).
And CC returned to Miles and Game. Agree with the both of you.
Ross Thomson -
Struggled? No. He won by 5 rounds. 4 Years ago.
Rubin Williams -
Lacy KO 7
Sheika -
Lacy UD
Wiggins -
Lacy KO 7
Lacy is a boxing bum - I guess that we all know.
Keep telling yourself that
Re: The Super middleweight top ten?
very good list miles.
mundine will be number one before too long.
