Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
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Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
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Originally Posted by kegs06
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40: Cleveland Williams
39: Zora Foley
38: Tommy Burns
37: Michael Spinks
36: James Douglas
35: James Braddock
34: George Godfrey
33: Jimmy Bivens
32: Max Baer
31: Jerry Quarry
30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali
;)
Didn't Max Baer lose to Braddock?? So why is he ranked higher??
For the same reason as Trevor Berbwick aint ranked above Muhammad Ali ;)
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Great fighters stand out, from the turn of the century we have had Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and as much as I hate to say it Lewis.
Those are the obvious tops but what order they go in can be interprated anyway.
Frazier and Foreman are there more because of Ali than their own merits, Frazier more so, Foreman had a relatively successfull comeback and became the oldest ever champ.
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40: Cleveland Williams
39: Zora Foley
38: Tommy Burns
37: Michael Spinks
36: James Douglas
35: James Braddock
34: George Godfrey
33: Jimmy Bivens
32: Max Baer
31: Jerry Quarry
30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali
;)
Didn't Max Baer lose to Braddock?? So why is he ranked higher??
For the same reason as Trevor Berbwick aint ranked above Muhammad Ali ;)
Wasn't Max Baer in his prime and champion against Braddock whereas Ali came off losing the title to Larry Holmes via retiring in 11th rd??
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Originally Posted by kegs06
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40: Cleveland Williams
39: Zora Foley
38: Tommy Burns
37: Michael Spinks
36: James Douglas
35: James Braddock
34: George Godfrey
33: Jimmy Bivens
32: Max Baer
31: Jerry Quarry
30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali
;)
Didn't Max Baer lose to Braddock?? So why is he ranked higher??
For the same reason as Trevor Berbwick aint ranked above Muhammad Ali ;)
Wasn't Max Baer in his prime and champion against Braddock whereas Ali came off losing the title to Larry Holmes via retiring in 11th rd??
Thats not the reason I was referring to!!
Its about career's and not 1 fight.
Oliver McCall beat a near prime Lennox Lewis for example. When you rank greatness (at least imo) its not necessarily who beat or could beat another fighter on any given night - it's about Longjevity, career success, victims and many other factors.
Max Baer had a better career then Jimmy Braddock
Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
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Great fighters stand out, from the turn of the century we have had Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and as much as I hate to say it Lewis.
Those are the obvious tops but what order they go in can be interprated anyway.
Frazier and Foreman are there more because of Ali than their own merits, Frazier more so, Foreman had a relatively successfull comeback and became the oldest ever champ.
Well said I couldn't agree more.
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40: Cleveland Williams
39: Zora Foley
38: Tommy Burns
37: Michael Spinks
36: James Douglas
35: James Braddock
34: George Godfrey
33: Jimmy Bivens
32: Max Baer
31: Jerry Quarry
30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali
;)
Didn't Max Baer lose to Braddock?? So why is he ranked higher??
For the same reason as Trevor Berbwick aint ranked above Muhammad Ali ;)
Wasn't Max Baer in his prime and champion against Braddock whereas Ali came off losing the title to Larry Holmes via retiring in 11th rd??
Thats not the reason I was referring to!!
Its about career's and not 1 fight.
Oliver McCall beat a near prime Lennox Lewis for example. When you rank greatness (at least imo) its not necessarily who beat or could beat another fighter on any given night - it's about Longjevity, career success, victims and many other factors.
Max Baer had a better career then Jimmy Braddock
Your right man i was just inspired after watching the movie. LOL
Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
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don't take this the wrong way you may be a fat fuck for all i know!)!
:o Oh shit, he can see me ;)
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Joe Louis at #2 and Holyfield before Bowe? explain yourself!
Louis was a true legend, his influence goes beyond boxing, and on top of all that, he was virtually unbeatable for 10 years (1937-47), no other Heavyweight can hand on heart say that.
Holyfield may of lost the Bowe series 2/1, but his overall career was far better than Bowe. He met virtually everyone that mattered in the 90s, and the only person he did not beat was Lewis, and he was arguable 9 years past his best by then.
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Misquoting me you sum bich! :boxing2:
But in terms of if they fought each other, do you think Louis could compete with guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson?
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It sounds odd but I think Louis would have more success with the best of the bunch, Ali.
Ali struggled with a simple jab, the other fighters would overpower him
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Misquoting me you sum bich! :boxing2:
But in terms of if they fought each other, do you think Louis could compete with guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson?
I see where you are comming from, but The thread is for the Greatest, not the best.
The Best, IMO goes:
5: The Tyson who beat Biggs
4: The Douglas who beat Tyson
3: The Holyfield who beat Bowe in fight two
2: The Lewis who beat Tua
1: The Bowe who beat Holyfield in fight one
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ali should be higher on the chart and where is joe frazier and lennox lewis ?
Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
1.Jack Johnson
2.Ali
3.Louis
4.Foreman
5.Evander
6. Holmes
7.Lewis
8.Frazier
9. Marciano
10. Tyson
honorable mention: Dempsey, Tunney, Charles, Walcott, Bowe, Liston, Patterson, Norton, Vitali,
Re: Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!
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1. Evander Holyfield
2. Andrew Golota
3. Joe Louis
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Jack Johnson
7. Sonny Liston
8. Ike Ibeabuchi
9.Tommy Morrison
10. Larry Holmes
What does everybody else think?? I'm sure this is a debateable thread. You can argue about a few names on my list. But most of them go without saying!
Ike Ibeabuchi is a crazy crack-head
he might have been a crack head but he sure was a good boxer ;D
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I'm still wondering how Golota even touched that list.
