Ten thoughts from the Brock-Ibragimov fight.

So they BOTH sucked.
That's what I THOUGHT you meant.

;)

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

What the hell..... I'll add an 11th.

11. You couldn't PAY me enough to watch another Ibragimov fight. I'd rather watch reruns of John Ruiz's entire career.

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yeah...almost made me wish for a BYRD/RUIZ fight........I can't believe I just typed that.......I am sorry if I offended anyone....:)

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Didn't I tell everyone the Ibragimovs are bums? I was just surprised Brock didn't knock him out. If Brock had a lil more balls he would have, but he beat him badly anyway.

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I don't think Brocks will and guts had anything to do with it, wheneverh e had Timor hurt Timor would grab and hold him otherewise Brock WOULD have gotten him out of there.

Calvin Brock has an awkward stance. He looks like Sagat from Street Fighter. There was a moment when I thought he was going to scream "TIGER UPPERCUT!"

Seriously, he looks like he wants to start kickboxing folks.

Maybe that explains the palm strikes...

Brock actually has a balanced stance but he lunges when he punches sometimes. He's WAY too open for right hands to beat Wladimer.

But Brock has a style where sometimes he'll look spectacular and sometimes he won't. But he just shut out an awkward style fighter that anyone would look bad against. And it wasn't close either.

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Originally Posted by Starr

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Didn't I tell everyone the Ibragimovs are bums? I was just surprised Brock didn't knock him out. If Brock had a lil more balls he would have, but he beat him badly anyway.

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I don't think Brocks will and guts had anything to do with it, wheneverh e had Timor hurt Timor would grab and hold him otherewise Brock WOULD have gotten him out of there.

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Personally, I think Brock lacks the killer instinct needed to be the HW champ. He coulda and shoulda taken Ibragimov outta there, chubby sucker was just lookin for a way out in rounds 6-8.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

1. I've seen better fights in the local bar.
2. Ibragimov throws arm punches with his right hand. They wouldn't knock down the ref.
3. Ibragimov's corner was a hell of a lot better than the fighter.
(One particular gem: "If you keep on fighting this way, we won't be here when you come back." HILARIOUS!!).

4. Brock should stick to tap-dancing and showing highlights of his two devastating left hooks (which HBO kept showing over and over).

5. The heavyweight division bores me to tears. People are so desperate to love the heavyweights, they'll grasp at whatever crumbs come their way. Me... I gave up on the bums a LONG time ago.

6. Max Kellerman was pretty good. He even managed to call Lennox Lewis boring to his face and got away with it. (Kind of a back-handed compliment).

7. The ref should be fired. He must've warned Brock for shoving his open glove in Ibragimov's face about 47 times and never actually DID anything about it. He also ignored Ibragimov's incessant shoving down of Brock's head and Brock's rabbit punching. Great fight! (YAWN......)

8. There were a couple of hot babes in the first few rows of seats. It's the type of thing you tend to notice more when the fight sucks.

9. I'd never heard the chant of "U-S-A....U-S-A" at a boxing match before. Sounded kind of odd, given the overall global insignificance of the fight. Then again, it WAS in Las Vegas.

10. Puerto Rico continues to churn out amazing fighters. Carlos Quintana is the REAL DEAL, and will continue to be heard from. His fight against Joel Julio actually should've been the real main event.

(I know this last comment has nothing to do with the Brock fight...... but, who gives a damn?).

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Holy shit! On 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9 I agree one thousand percent.

I especially agree with # 8 and I almost wrote on an earlier thread that I actually found myself looking at the venue for the first time ever. I was actually paying attention to the architecture at Caesars Palace, and looking into the crowd more than watching the fight.

I don't completely agree with 6.....though I noticed and relished the backhanded compliment (and believe me, when he suggested Lewis was boring I almost wet my pants laughing) I still didn't think much of Max. He still comes across as that "kid in daddy's suit" to me.
Fuck I don't know maybe I am being to harsh.

However, #5 and #11 I gotta disagree with.

There is talent in the division.....it was just no where to be found last night!

I will watch SULTAN Ibragimov fight anyday.......he's an exciting tough as nails fighter who looks like Opie from The Andy Griffith show, but bangs like a Gorilla on speed. He would have beat the shit out of Brock inside 5!

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

1. I've seen better fights in the local bar.
2. Ibragimov throws arm punches with his right hand. They wouldn't knock down the ref.
3. Ibragimov's corner was a hell of a lot better than the fighter.
(One particular gem: "If you keep on fighting this way, we won't be here when you come back." HILARIOUS!!).

4. Brock should stick to tap-dancing and showing highlights of his two devastating left hooks (which HBO kept showing over and over).

5. The heavyweight division bores me to tears. People are so desperate to love the heavyweights, they'll grasp at whatever crumbs come their way. Me... I gave up on the bums a LONG time ago.

6. Max Kellerman was pretty good. He even managed to call Lennox Lewis boring to his face and got away with it. (Kind of a back-handed compliment).

7. The ref should be fired. He must've warned Brock for shoving his open glove in Ibragimov's face about 47 times and never actually DID anything about it. He also ignored Ibragimov's incessant shoving down of Brock's head and Brock's rabbit punching. Great fight! (YAWN......)

8. There were a couple of hot babes in the first few rows of seats. It's the type of thing you tend to notice more when the fight sucks.

9. I'd never heard the chant of "U-S-A....U-S-A" at a boxing match before. Sounded kind of odd, given the overall global insignificance of the fight. Then again, it WAS in Las Vegas.

10. Puerto Rico continues to churn out amazing fighters. Carlos Quintana is the REAL DEAL, and will continue to be heard from. His fight against Joel Julio actually should've been the real main event.

(I know this last comment has nothing to do with the Brock fight...... but, who gives a damn?).

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Holy shit! On 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9 I agree one thousand percent.

I especially agree with # 8 and I almost wrote on an earlier thread that I actually found myself looking at the venue for the first time ever. I was actually paying attention to the architecture at Caesars Palace, and looking into the crowd more than watching the fight.

I don't completely agree with 6.....though I noticed and relished the backhanded compliment (and believe me, when he suggested Lewis was boring I almost wet my pants laughing) I still didn't think much of Max. He still comes across as that "kid in daddy's suit" to me.
Fuck I don't know maybe I am being to harsh.

However, #5 and #11 I gotta disagree with.

There is talent in the division.....it was just no where to be found last night!

I will watch SULTAN Ibragimov fight anyday.......he's an exciting tough as nails fighter who looks like Opie from The Andy Griffith show, but bangs like a Gorilla on speed. He would have beat the shit out of Brock inside 5!

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BOTH Ibragimovs are bums from what I've seen. Neither are any thing to write home about man.

Bullsh!t........which Sultan fight did you see then??

"I still didn't think much of Max. He still comes across as that "kid in daddy's suit" to me.
F*** I don't know maybe I am being to harsh." -- Mucho Testosterone


I think that's a brillant description. One day I'll be able to "cool click" for remarks like that. Well done.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

"I still didn't think much of Max. He still comes across as that "kid in daddy's suit" to me.
F*** I don't know maybe I am being to harsh." -- Mucho Testosterone


I think that's a brillant description. One day I'll be able to "cool click" for remarks like that. Well done.

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Thanks..and here's one of these :coolclick: to add to your collection.

Kellerman will always be viewed as that kid...but the thing is...daddy's suit or not...that kid's a hell of a commentator & he knows what the hell he's talking about.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Kellerman will always be viewed as that kid...but the thing is...daddy's suit or not...that kid's a hell of a commentator & he knows what the hell he's talking about.

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I won't dispute his knowledge which is very extensive.....my post is in regard to likability and presence. To me, he seems too jumpy and hyper, or anxious to make a point.

It's as if when he has a point to make he's jumping out of his seat raising his hand and going ooo, ooh, ooh, I know. I used to watch him on Friday night fights a few years ago and I felt the same way then as I do now.

But yes, he does know his shit just as Teddy Atlas does and to me, neither are fun to watch.

I taped it and watched it last night. When I woke up I decided to market the tape as a cure for insomnia. Is it me or are Fran Charles, Max Kellerman and Lennox Lewis the worst "commentators" ever?

I have 10 thoughts on this fight as well..
1. it sucked
2. it really sucked
3. it super sucked
4. it sucked A**
5. it sucked big a**
6. it sucked monster a**
7. it sucked balls
8. it sucked monster balls
9. Timor sucks
10. Calvin Brock sucks as well