Re: Like I said before..at 147 sugar is the only one who can beat PBF...
mosley didnt do anything to all of the sudden Solidify his chance at winning a match against PBF
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That's right... he beat a Vargas who was proberly damaged as far back as the Trindad defeat
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How did Wright get involved in this conversation. 1) I still have no clue why Mosley was fighting Wright up at that weight and not smacking fools more his size. 2) Wright would eat PBF's soul. He's waaaay too big for PBF. We shouldn't even be comparing this. The dude just went 12 rounds with Jermain Taylor... wanna stick Floyd in there?
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It must be a nightmare being Floyd. Every week everybody clamours for him to fight the current hit of the week, accusing him of dodging and ducking and saying he needs to step up.
Hatton, Judah (until he lost to Baldomir), Margarito, Oscar, Mosely etc.
What makes me laugh though is that before their defining fights Oscar Mayorga, Shane Vargas everyone is writing off their chances saying such a fight would be a mismatch and they wouldn't want it on ppv.
Then they get a win, and all of a sudden Floyd has to fight them!
Poor man, damed if you don't, damned if you do.
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I bet the millions of dollars in his pockets make the nightmare easier live with. Maybe he can wipe away his tears with 100 dollar bills. ;)
Re: Like I said before..at 147 sugar is the only one who can beat PBF...
Oscar could beat Floyd, Floyd hasn't fought anyone like Oscar...ODH is big powerful and I doubt he'd be hurt by ANYONE at 147 providing he can make the weight
Shane would do very well with Floyd, his chin is better than Zab's and he uses more punches and has more heart than Zab.
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I still say Shane will not be able to figure PBF out... IMO He has never done well against a good jab, and Floyd has one of the best jabs ever when he uses it (vs. Corrales, Castillo 2, Hernandez). Mosley isn't used to fighting somebody faster than him, and I don't think he would be capable of fighting somebody faster than him.
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Anyone can beat anyone if the timing is right but the biggest fight out there is Floyd - Shane not Floyd- Oscar .
Dont get me wrong I think Oscar was great against Mayorga but styles make fights . The bigger picture suggests he's been inactive and has lost more than hes won recently . Hed struggle with a guy like Floyd after all this time . Whereas Shane has steadily been improving with recent performances . His speed was back last night . His footwork and combos have returned and his destructive power he displayed at 154 far exceeds anything Floyd could do . That fight would be be 50 -50 in my eyes . Still undecided cuz Floyds the guy showing his best form but Shane at his best walks right through him .
I agree, but one thing i noticed about shane last night (ok i was a lil buzzed, so maybe it looked more than it was:P) but i felt when he lets his hands go
he leaves his chin wayyyyy open, and someone like floyd could make him pay for that...
I hope it happens though, it would be a great way to end 2006, or start 2007. I think the winner would go down to who trained right - but right now i think Mosley stops him in the 10th
I think even if Shane left his chin out to dry and let Floyd take free shots he still couldnt hurt him .
Floyd has to be th emost featherfisted fighter in the p4p top 10 . After seeing him land his bst shots on Judah and stioll have no effect it made me think he's guna struggle as he moves up cuz he already cant wobble the most chinny of fighters .
Floyd hasnt done anything in his entire career that suggests he is capable of handling Shane at his best . Question is will Shane be at his best ? Thats why I make it 50-50 anymans fight
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nope Margarito has a good chance, and so does Cotto if he chooses to move up
I agree with that statement as long as you substitute "a good chance" with "a puncher's chance"
Seriously, how many people were saying how good and bada** Margarito was before his name got tossed in the mix with PBFs. Cotto is too slow and robotic...PBF would dismantle him.
I'm not a big Floyd fan but that's how it is.
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Anyone can beat anyone if the timing is right but the biggest fight out there is Floyd - Shane not Floyd- Oscar .
Dont get me wrong I think Oscar was great against Mayorga but styles make fights . The bigger picture suggests he's been inactive and has lost more than hes won recently . Hed struggle with a guy like Floyd after all this time . Whereas Shane has steadily been improving with recent performances . His speed was back last night . His footwork and combos have returned and his destructive power he displayed at 154 far exceeds anything Floyd could do . That fight would be be 50 -50 in my eyes . Still undecided cuz Floyds the guy showing his best form but Shane at his best walks right through him .
actually oscar's the bigger threat, he's the bigger man and has a better style to beat PBF
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Originally Posted by GAME
Anyone can beat anyone if the timing is right but the biggest fight out there is Floyd - Shane not Floyd- Oscar .
Dont get me wrong I think Oscar was great against Mayorga but styles make fights . The bigger picture suggests he's been inactive and has lost more than hes won recently . Hed struggle with a guy like Floyd after all this time . Whereas Shane has steadily been improving with recent performances . His speed was back last night . His footwork and combos have returned and his destructive power he displayed at 154 far exceeds anything Floyd could do . That fight would be be 50 -50 in my eyes . Still undecided cuz Floyds the guy showing his best form but Shane at his best walks right through him .
actually oscar's the bigger threat, he's the bigger man and has a better style to beat PBF
I think Oscar at 147 taps that mayweather ass!
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Well, I think some people may have an outside shot against him. Most likely a big outside shot. As far as Mosley goes, he's the only person I'm positive would beat him. There's no doubt in my mind. It wouldn't even be close.
I don't like Maywhether either, but unfortuneatly there is a BIG doubt in Shane's mind as to if he could beat Floyd. Otherwise he'd be jumpin at the chance to fight him.
Excellent point Hulk,CC bro. I don't think we can say that Shane would beat PBF based on him beating Vargas,it reminds me of people saying Oscar would batter PBF based on his win over Mayorga,2 completely different fighters,neither anywhere near as good as Floyd. Also,remember,Molsey slowed down big time in the first fight,how are we to know how his stamina is etc? I can't wait for Shane to come back to 147,that is the HOTTEST division right now and they need to make the big fights!!
CC back at ya. I found it a sad coincidence that Mosley knocked out Vargas in the same round as Oscar finished off el matador. But least Mayorga came to fight and to win. Vargas looked to only be there for a pay day, and just plodded forward with no gameplan. Point is, even after KO'n Vargas, Mosley ain't mentally ready for PBF. He was more worried bout his loose tooth last night, than fighting the so called best P4P fighter in the world.
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Agreed,I'm not buying into this Mosley-PBF hype just yet either. One of these bastards needs to fight Margarito!!! >:mad I like the Mosley idea:Tony-PBF-winner faces Shane.
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Agreed,I'm not buying into this Mosley-PBF hype just yet either. One of these bastards needs to fight Margarito!!! >:mad I like the Mosley idea:Tony-PBF-winner faces Shane.
Il go with that also . Shane needs a couple fights at welter first to get used to the weight again . Floyd can fight Margarito in the interim in November . Next may would be great to see the Mosley - Floyd fight but I duno where that leaves Oscar
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Agreed,I'm not buying into this Mosley-PBF hype just yet either. One of these bastards needs to fight Margarito!!! >:mad I like the Mosley idea:Tony-PBF-winner faces Shane.
Il go with that also . Shane needs a couple fights at welter first to get used to the weight again . Floyd can fight Margarito in the interim in November . Next may would be great to see the Mosley - Floyd fight but I duno where that leaves Oscar
Yea that would be a good scenario but honestly, there's no way Floyd would let it happen... That way Shane is the big shot who get's the way bigger payday and doesn't risk anything in doing so... Plus Mosley vs Margarito would probably be a more competitive fight imo, that's what I would wan't to see.. I think Shane could beat him soundly.
