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Gatti KO Round 9
Not with any confidence on my part.
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Gatti is a tough son of a bitch and a ring warrior and veteran who has underrated boxing skills... Arturo Gatti can definetly hang with the best of them and Baldomir aint the best of them...
Then again is Carlos Baldomir the Glen Johnson of the Welterweight division???? I dont know but I can see Gatti pulling it out
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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.
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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.
I don't think anyone here is saying Baldomir is great, but I feel he will wear down Gatti & take the close decision. People are saying Gatti will out box him but I feel he'll get drawn into a battle & fight Baldomirs fight. If Gatti does box then it will be difficult for Baldomir, but I think Baldomir will just keep pushing & pushing, Gatti will get frustrated then it will all be on. This is where I feel Baldomir will have the advantage
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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.
I don't think anyone here is saying Baldomir is great, but I feel he will wear down Gatti & take the close decision. People are saying Gatti will out box him but I feel he'll get drawn into a battle & fight Baldomirs fight. If Gatti does box then it will be difficult for Baldomir, but I think Baldomir will just keep pushing & pushing, Gatti will get frustrated then it will all be on. This is where I feel Baldomir will have the advantage
CC Galaxy for your string of insightful posts. Don’t always agree but do enjoy your point of view ! !
Baldomir is going to walk right into a str8 right in R 6 , and its game over ! Carlos is going to be in "Dog trouble" ! Gatti is like Rice Crispies ! He can Snap Crackle and Pop ! Gatti in 6
" Can't see the forest cause all the tree’s are in the way" - Johanson
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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
CC back pops ;D That's the thing though,I don't rate Gatti's boxing ability at all and a guy with a low KO ratio but a natural WW can still be very dangerous.Ask Ricky Hatton about Luis Collazo! Also,I think Gatti will get worn out,I don't think he can hurt Baldomir.Remember,Baldozar took the best of what Zab had to offer,and I'm sure Zab hits as hard,if not harder than Gatti.
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and a :coolclick: to game for the article
CC back bro,love the name(Baldomackarena ;D)
Pops?? POPS?! ;D
My thing with Baldomir is that, though his record over the last several years has been very consistant, I just dont see him as an A grade fighter. Likewise, Gatti himself is not an A level fighter. I think against fighters who are not elite then Gatti actually has a chance to look good. His skills are not effective against the best but against Baldomir who is relatively slow I expect Gatti to look surprisingly fleet and agile.
Its gonna go the distance and I see Gatti stealing the key rounds, he has a wealth of experience to draw on now. I dont expect a war, but I do expect a thriller. Gatti will use tact in this one....
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I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
CC to you, I agree.. Zab Judah was very weak on that night, even for the first 6 rounds that he controlled easily, he was being lazy and not putting a whole lot of shots together.. Then after the 7th he just ran, if anything it's embaressing that Baldomir couldn't finish him off in that round, ive maybe never seen anyone act that stupid in the ring when they were hurt.. I think it basically comes down to whether Baldmomir could hurt Gatti , because to say he's a better boxer is ridiculous, no matter what you rate Gatti's ability balmodir is clearly an unskilled plow forward figher. IMO Gatti will win a somewhat tough decision but outbox him, and people will realize that Baldomir isn't very good.
CC, right back....I find it difficult to see how Baldomir is going to beat a Gatti whom I fully expect to come in with a boxing plan. I dont expect an all out war because I dont think Gatti even needs to go to war here...
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To me this fight comes down to one question: Is and in shape, focused Gatti better than an outta shape unfocused Judah? I don't know myself. I'm thinking he could be so its gonna be a close fight. But if Gatti cannot hurt Baldomir then he is screwed IMO. I'm kinda rootin for Gatti, but it would be weird having him as the #1 Welterweight Champ and PBF as a belt holder.
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Gatti's pressure to wear Baldomir down to stop him in the 10th.
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Honestly Baldimir couldn’t punch through a paper sack ! Gatti will step to the side pop , move get another angle and catch Carlos coming in again and again all night long, and finally in round 6 Carlos walks into a str8 right and starts dreaming of sugar plums ! IMO Gatti in 6 rather easy win for Gatti IMO
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by The Game
I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
CC, for an interesting article, young Game
Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
If Gatti gets stunned as badly as Judah was he mad decide to go around a little more. Gatti doesn't have many years left so smart boxing is the key in this fight. Not a war
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Gatti did poorly against pbf because he threw hardly any punches. If gatti would have thrown 70 punches per round and brawled with pbf, he probably would have given pbf a good go. He knew he couldn't win with speed so he should have focused on the body and jab to slow mayweather down in later rounds. You can't win a fight without throwing punches. To say gatti boxed mayweather is generous. He didn't even box. All he did was focus on his defence, he hardly threw a punch that came anywhere near pbf.
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Gatti KO Round 9
Not with any confidence on my part.
at least you picked the right round....... ;D
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i guess baldi is next for PBF.........thats fucking great. :(
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i guess baldi is next for PBF.........thats fucking great. :(
Why not Baldomaraca v the winner of Hatton/Urkal
