Re: baldi vs margarito on Dec.2nd...maybe?
how about hatton take on baldomir and floyd take on tony and the winners fight each other for all the belts, plus floyd will still make his 8 mil.And we can see if hatton can take a punch from baldomir since collazo almost had him out.
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how about hatton take on baldomir and floyd take on tony and the winners fight each other for all the belts, plus floyd will still make his 8 mil.And we can see if hatton can take a punch from baldomir since collazo almost had him out.
I know it's an unpatriotic thing to say coming from a Brit but I think the Collazo fight unnerved Hatton and he's lost his bottle.
I mean to be talking about moving back down and the possibility of going after his old belt and fighting Urango smacks of someone who was going to swim the channel then dipped his toe in the water and thought 'Hey it's a bit cold!', and got straight back out again.
When Floyd suffered a similar fate at the hands of Castillo at lightweight there wasn't a hint of him moving back down again. Instead he gave Castillo a rematch, beat him convincingly and move onwards and upwards.
I get the feeling Ricky is not going to do that though.
No shame on him if he doesn't, I mean not many people are cut out to be multi division champions but I do think Hatton's status as a top p4p star is in jeopardy.
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for some reason i think baldi vs PBF will not come off. i dont know, maybe money now or money in the future (odlh) will keep this fight from happening......so baldi vs tony sounds good.....i think more then likely PBF will end up fighting mosley.IMO
I don't know bro, reading that DLH interview I got the distinct impression Oscar is waiting for Floyd to capture Baldomirs welterweight title so that his match with Floyd would be for a world championship.
ODLH also said he didnt give a shat about titles at this point.......who the F*** can figure these guys out..... :dontknow:
plus he'd have to starve himself down to 147 to grab any WW title anyway, which i'm positive we will be unwilling and unable to do.
DLH talk about moving back to 147 only a few months back when Mosley also dropped back. Also he said he didn't care about belts. " I would rather fight for that ring belt" & " If you wanna look up who the champion is, then go to the ring magazine".
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how about hatton take on baldomir and floyd take on tony and the winners fight each other for all the belts, plus floyd will still make his 8 mil.And we can see if hatton can take a punch from baldomir since collazo almost had him out.
I know it's an unpatriotic thing to say coming from a Brit but I think the Collazo fight unnerved Hatton and he's lost his bottle.
I mean to be talking about moving back down and the possibility of going after his old belt and fighting Urango smacks of someone who was going to swim the channel then dipped his toe in the water and thought 'Hey it's a bit cold!', and got straight back out again.
When Floyd suffered a similar fate at the hands of Castillo at lightweight there wasn't a hint of him moving back down again. Instead he gave Castillo a rematch, beat him convincingly and move onwards and upwards.
I get the feeling Ricky is not going to do that though.
No shame on him if he doesn't, I mean not many people are cut out to be multi division champions but I do think Hatton's status as a top p4p star is in jeopardy.
I agree completely. I already don't think of him as a top p4p star. If he drops down, he should fight Castillo--if he beats Castillo, he makes my list.
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how about hatton take on baldomir and floyd take on tony and the winners fight each other for all the belts, plus floyd will still make his 8 mil.And we can see if hatton can take a punch from baldomir since collazo almost had him out.
I know it's an unpatriotic thing to say coming from a Brit but I think the Collazo fight unnerved Hatton and he's lost his bottle.
I mean to be talking about moving back down and the possibility of going after his old belt and fighting Urango smacks of someone who was going to swim the channel then dipped his toe in the water and thought 'Hey it's a bit cold!', and got straight back out again.
When Floyd suffered a similar fate at the hands of Castillo at lightweight there wasn't a hint of him moving back down again. Instead he gave Castillo a rematch, beat him convincingly and move onwards and upwards.
I get the feeling Ricky is not going to do that though.
No shame on him if he doesn't, I mean not many people are cut out to be multi division champions but I do think Hatton's status as a top p4p star is in jeopardy.
I agree completely. I already don't think of him as a top p4p star. If he drops down, he should fight Castillo--if he beats Castillo, he makes my list.
True he should drop back to 140, a Hatton/ Castillo fight would be huge.
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Oh man I almost forgot that this forum is heavily influenced by the cable networks full of their poster boy minipromoters. Thus they hate the man that makes Floyed look like a sissy.
Only an idiot or a pretty boy lover would be so blind as not to see that HBO is protecting certain fighters in order to milk them for all they are worth.
Professional boxing is all about risks and money and for a boxer to turn down 8 million dollars, a fellow champion who's been hounding him, and multi shouts from the fans is a case that will definately go down in the history books---Floyed was no Leonard, was no Ali, was no De la Hoya but Foyed was a protected primadonna.
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Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
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Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… Shit wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
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You make a good point but I am sticking with my suspicions and I also agree that Margarito should jump at williams and Clottey's public challenge. Yes, these two guys are a huge risk but they are only going to get better and they would be great preparation. Colazzo/Margarito would be great too.
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Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… Shit wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
I agree that Tony needs to step up but I disagree,you CANNOT call the guys he has beaten bums,I have gone through them a million times and am sick f talking about it. Also,he has 4 losses,WOW?!?! How many does Baldo or a Gatti heck even Judah have?> 3 of his losses came as a teen and 1 was on cuts in a fight he was winning against an 170 plus pounds guy! AND MARGARITO HAS CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING RIVERA!
Once he does beat Clottey and hopefully Collazo,I want to hear what people say then! AND I DAM SURE WANT THIS FIGHT TO COME OFF!
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Originally Posted by maracho
Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… S*** wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
I agree that Tony needs to step up but I disagree,you CANNOT call the guys he has beaten bums,I have gone through them a million times and am sick f talking about it. Also,he has 4 losses,WOW?!?! How many does Baldo or a Gatti heck even Judah have?> 3 of his losses came as a teen and 1 was on cuts in a fight he was winning against an 170 plus pounds guy! AND MARGARITO HAS CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING RIVERA!
Once he does beat Clottey and hopefully Collazo,I want to hear what people say then! AND I DAM SURE WANT THIS FIGHT TO COME OFF!
Yeah there is talk of Margarito -vs- Clottey possible for Dec 2nd.. That would be fantstic !
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Originally Posted by maracho
Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… S*** wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
I agree that Tony needs to step up but I disagree,you CANNOT call the guys he has beaten bums,I have gone through them a million times and am sick f talking about it. Also,he has 4 losses,WOW?!?! How many does Baldo or a Gatti heck even Judah have?> 3 of his losses came as a teen and 1 was on cuts in a fight he was winning against an 170 plus pounds guy! AND MARGARITO HAS CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING RIVERA!
Once he does beat Clottey and hopefully Collazo,I want to hear what people say then! AND I DAM SURE WANT THIS FIGHT TO COME OFF!
Yeah there is talk of Margarito -vs- Clottey possible for Dec 2nd.. That would be fantstic !
That would be a great fight. Clotteys as tough as nails & Margarito has no dog in him.
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Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… S*** wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
I agree that Tony needs to step up but I disagree,you CANNOT call the guys he has beaten bums,I have gone through them a million times and am sick f talking about it. Also,he has 4 losses,WOW?!?! How many does Baldo or a Gatti heck even Judah have?> 3 of his losses came as a teen and 1 was on cuts in a fight he was winning against an 170 plus pounds guy! AND MARGARITO HAS CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING RIVERA!
Once he does beat Clottey and hopefully Collazo,I want to hear what people say then! AND I DAM SURE WANT THIS FIGHT TO COME OFF!
Yeah there is talk of Margarito -vs- Clottey possible for Dec 2nd.. That would be fantstic !
That would be a great fight. Clotteys as tough as nails & Margarito has no dog in him.
Yelp a real good war this would be, lets hope everything piece's together.
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Originally Posted by maracho
Wow! I sure hope Baldomir gives Margarito this well diserved opportunity.
I would give Margarito props if he beat someone good. someone other then the C level opposition he has been facing , hell Margarito lost to a C+ fighter Danial Santos . I'm not sold yet, Margarito’s next fight is against a fighter with 9 losses. jeez, looks to me that Tony is one of those fighters that just pads the ole record and then thinks he is deserving somehow of the honor of fighting P4P the best fighter in the world. . Hell if he would beat a Zudah or Collozo, i could understand making a case . id would even settle for a Ben Tackie or Juan Lazcano then we can better gauge him. I always hear these excuses from Tony "nobody will fight me"… S*** wave that 8 million dollars at Joshua Clottey , or Paul Williams and see what happens. Ben Tackie is always on call, he aint going no where. Step up Anotnio and stop crying !
I agree that Tony needs to step up but I disagree,you CANNOT call the guys he has beaten bums,I have gone through them a million times and am sick f talking about it. Also,he has 4 losses,WOW?!?! How many does Baldo or a Gatti heck even Judah have?> 3 of his losses came as a teen and 1 was on cuts in a fight he was winning against an 170 plus pounds guy! AND MARGARITO HAS CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING RIVERA!
Once he does beat Clottey and hopefully Collazo,I want to hear what people say then! AND I DAM SURE WANT THIS FIGHT TO COME OFF!
Yeah there is talk of Margarito -vs- Clottey possible for Dec 2nd.. That would be fantstic !
That would be a great fight. Clotteys as tough as nails & Margarito has no dog in him.
Yelp a real good war this would be, lets hope everything piece's together.
Ive got my fingers & toes crossed. Margarito needs to keep fighting & winning against tough opposition so as to be prepare for when he gets his opportunity against the top guys
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Personally, I want to see Margarito Baldo the most but Clottey would be a good fight too and I'd be disspointed if Tony did not win. He is ultra hungry for the big names so I want to see teh Tijuana Tornado leave behind a trail of destruction with Clottey,Quintana,Collazo and if Williams keeps running his mouth,Knock him TFO for good measure.
