Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
As much as I hate to say it I think De La Hoya is the only fighter with the proven track record and who is smart enough to have a chance of beating Floyd.
Hatton would just be outclassed, outboxed and stopped,
Margarito would just lose a wide decision, winning maybe 2 or 3 rounds,
Baldomir the same,
Spinks would go in the latter rounds,
Mosely could be a test, I'd like to see this one,
Cotto is too green, he'd be schooled
Have I missed anyone?
Nah bro you got everyone, & I agree with everything. Although by the time Cotto is ready for Floyd he may cause some trouble. If Winky could make 154 I'd say he'd be Floyds biggest threat. That would be pure sweet science.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
As much as I hate to say it I think De La Hoya is the only fighter with the proven track record and who is smart enough to have a chance of beating Floyd.
Hatton would just be outclassed, outboxed and stopped,
Margarito would just lose a wide decision, winning maybe 2 or 3 rounds,
Baldomir the same,
Spinks would go in the latter rounds,
Mosely could be a test, I'd like to see this one,
Cotto is too green, he'd be schooled
Have I missed anyone?
hate to say it but i totally disagree, i mean agree with the oscar bit.
but hatton .. wouldnt get destroyed if floyd couldnt stop zab, not a chance in hell it could happen to hatton.i mean if floyd won which theres i'd say 60/40 chance he would he would look better then hatton, but ricky is all about business not looking good!
if anyone, margarito would be stopped and outclassed because hes not at the top level, hes never fought anyone like the people in this list and he's wild when he throws combinations he'd get hit with a counter and dropped especially with floyds leaning shell type defence, tony would go wild and miss him ten times and floyd would hit him with a strait right!
baldi... as much as i have a new found like for the man, he may well give floyd trouble but a clear cut ud!
spinks is good not as good as he has been but thats no good against the p4p king. ud or late stoppage.
mosely.. agreeed fight fire with fire, very entertaining.
cotto..disagree cotto has been on top for two or three years and i say floyd ud. but i'd like to see how floyd takes punishment to the body so dont hold me to that.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
to beat flloyd you need, eithger a total brawler - e.g hatton , castillo who did give him problems, or you need the welterweight version of winky wright, someone who can outthink flloyd in the ring
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
i have a feeling that floyd might go to light middle eventually and collect a title there, and he could do it and it would be yet another title in another wieght class for him which would be great for him, and thats where he should fight winky! meet each other half way. also yeh the guy above is right and its cos winky has such long arms and great defence
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
Floyd is certainly NOT a light middle fighter.
The bigger boys would smother and stop him.
I'm not suggesting Floyd is a flaky fighter (no way) but i do believe that round 8 onwards with a bigger guy would be deep water for Floyd.
He just dont seem built for further weight increases, without jeopardising his skill sets.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
As much as I hate to say it I think De La Hoya is the only fighter with the proven track record and who is smart enough to have a chance of beating Floyd.
Hatton would just be outclassed, outboxed and stopped,
Margarito would just lose a wide decision, winning maybe 2 or 3 rounds,
Baldomir the same,
Spinks would go in the latter rounds,
Mosely could be a test, I'd like to see this one,
Cotto is too green, he'd be schooled
Have I missed anyone?
I agree with you 100% with Oscar being his most difficult challenge even though I see Floyd winning (I think he would beat Oscar in his prime) but I just don't know what you people see in Shane Mosley, a couple of years of poor performances, he is up there in age, and he has been ducking PBF for a long time, what is it that you see in Shane to make you think this, please don't tell me a solid win over Vargas who is a fighter that everybody on this forum has talked about being shot since I have been a member. Shane is no longer an elite fighter, I am sorry.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Floyd is certainly NOT a light middle fighter.
The bigger boys would smother and stop him.
I'm not suggesting Floyd is a flaky fighter (no way) but i do believe that round 8 onwards with a bigger guy would be deep water for Floyd.
He just dont seem built for further weight increases, without jeopardising his skill sets.
Never say never! i can see him going up just for a big fight and to catch a title and drop it, i honesly can, u certianly cant say he wouldnt like the idea of bieng champion in FIVE different wieght classes, and if pretty boy is the best pound for pound he would, and also light middle would not affect his performance, he would just be stronger and possibly sacrifice a tiny amount of speed, now making him into a middlewieght would be the problem but i dont see a problem at light middle.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
Witness what Wladimir Klitschko did to Chris Byrd with the jab from the 1st round on. :P
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
oh yeh it works for some no doubt and there would be no boxing if it werent for the jab, but i just dont think its goner beat floyd i mean i think it was demarcus corley who found that out when he was just trying to find floyd and floyd was leaning away and rolling the right shoulder it one moment it looked like corley was searching for a light switch and the next pbf leant forward with strait right hands.
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Floyd is certainly NOT a light middle fighter.
The bigger boys would smother and stop him.
I'm not suggesting Floyd is a flaky fighter (no way) but i do believe that round 8 onwards with a bigger guy would be deep water for Floyd.
He just dont seem built for further weight increases, without jeopardising his skill sets.
Never say never! i can see him going up just for a big fight and to catch a title and drop it, i honesly can, u certianly cant say he wouldnt like the idea of bieng champion in FIVE different wieght classes, and if pretty boy is the best pound for pound he would, and also light middle would not affect his performance, he would just be stronger and possibly sacrifice a tiny amount of speed, now making him into a middlewieght would be the problem but i dont see a problem at light middle.
I agree bro, DLH started out ay Jr. Light & now he is a fullfledge Jr. Middle. Floyd would have no trouble moving up to 154. If you look at the guys @ 154 only Oscar & Shane present a threat IMO. I would love to see how Ouma would go, he would be the only one I'd say that would have some advantage with size. But Floyd would box him & cut him to pieces.
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yeh ouma and floyd would rock imo but i duno if floyd would take a fight wit the dream maybe after like a BIG fight which i feel he's ready for. i.e i want him to spark out margarito, and i mte happen hes on the list.lol also floyd always seems to go where the fights are, he dun em at lightwieght, he dun em at light welter, hes still banging at welter and if noone stops him hell he might just move his way up to super heavy, lol kiddin, but basically i think theres fair odds of a pbf at light middle in the future.lol
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by body head banger
yeh ouma and floyd would rock imo but i duno if floyd would take a fight wit the dream maybe after like a BIG fight which i feel he's ready for. i.e i want him to spark out margarito, and i mte happen hes on the list.lol also floyd always seems to go where the fights are, he dun em at lightwieght, he dun em at light welter, hes still banging at welter and if noone stops him hell he might just move his way up to super heavy, lol kiddin, but basically i think theres fair odds of a pbf at light middle in the future.lol
Yeah I'd say it's a sure thing, I hope he gets Baldomir & Hatton outta the way first. Those two are champions, Margarito has win big against a Collazo or Judah before I think Floyd should be interested in him.
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yeh man , i mean i like baldomir cos hes kinda truely EARNT my respect recently, and im torn between hatton and floyd, cos i believe hatton could do it,but i know floyd never loses.
i'd be impressed with margarito collazo cos im begging someone to take down margarito and collazo is tough, but i also kinda want maybe baldomir to get another big win. or maybe its best he doesnt get exposed so the deed is left to our floyd. i duno, lol the possibility's
Re: Are taller fighters with a jab & reach the key to beating fighters like PBF?
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Originally Posted by body head banger
yeh man , i mean i like baldomir cos hes kinda truely EARNT my respect recently, and im torn between hatton and floyd, cos i believe hatton could do it,but i know floyd never loses.
i'd be impressed with margarito collazo cos im begging someone to take down margarito and collazo is tough, but i also kinda want maybe baldomir to get another big win. or maybe its best he doesnt get exposed so the deed is left to our floyd. i duno, lol the possibility's
Margarito should work like hell to get Baldomir, if he could get that fight & win theres no way Floyd wouldn't fight him. I just wish Floyd would take the fight with Margarito & put him in his place. I mean it's fine to call out the top guys but you gotta also beat some top guys to be in the mix.
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yeh true bro. i duno but i cant imagine floyd knows the scale of this predicament so many people are talking about margarito and tony hasnt even accomplished much its just the press that mayweather turned him down and tony going off sayin every1 is scared, its not true but its a masterful way of getting publicity, might have backfired though if margarito doesnt accept de la hoyas challenge people might start saying he's all mouth, and if he fights baldi im sure floyd would be abliged to take those titles from him.:P
