how was pryor not on there level ? pryor was an extremely good boxer and Leonard was avoiding him no question its just that Sugar Ray had different excusesQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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how was pryor not on there level ? pryor was an extremely good boxer and Leonard was avoiding him no question its just that Sugar Ray had different excusesQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Sugar Ray wouldnt duck anyone IMO. Not many people would come out of retirement and straight into a fight with one of the best in the sport.
Leonard takes pryor out imo.
I agree with the whole statement until you got to the take Pryor out part..Ray would out point him but not take him out ( I was assuming you mean KO or TKO if I am wrong I apologize in advance )Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
I think you're NUTS!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
As much as I hated Pryor, he was one of the best out there....
If you were the champ and Pryor was in your weight division, if you didnt right out fight him it was because you were scared....
I felt at the time one of the best fighters Pryor ever went up against was Alexis....I loved Alexis, he was one of the most respectful fighters I have ever seen in the ring.. Pryor's cornerman cheated the first fight, but if you ever got to see the second fight, you would have gotten to see the one thing that made Pryor good and that was Skill....The man had SKILL...
SRL avoided him because he knew that Pryor would beat him and beat him into retirement.....
I think SRL would have done the same thing he did to Hearns and that was make pryor wait five years then fight him when he was starting to get out of sync....SRL avoided Hearns for a long time before he would ever fight him, why?? Cuz Tommy would have knocked his ass clean out....
So yeah, I think SRL avoided Pryor as he did other fights he could have fought when the time was right for all included...
SRL did only one thing I felt was smart and that was to make people hold out, build up the money and then get em while they were old....
Good Luck,
Coach
If all boxers knew that all they had to do was fight the last thirty seconds of a boxing match, you better believe that alot of others would have done it also....Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
When you say he came out of retirement to beat one of the best, which retirement are you talking about??? If I remember right, SRL retired like 3 times from boxing before he basically got whipped out of the sport....
Good Luck,
Coach
i think hes talking about the when he retired in 1984 and comeback in 1987 and hagler wasnt shot like i said in my other post he just come off two best wins of hes career against tommy hearns and john mugabi and ray leonard hadnt fought for 3 years so he done very well to beat hagler
Sugar Ray would seem to duck people (Hearns and Hagler) but mostly it was Angelo Dundee cooking up the pre fight build up
but Pryor called out Leonard publicly and Leonard told the public that he wouldnt be fighting Pryor
STYLES MAKE FIGHTS ....i'm sure Leonard felt he could out-slick Hagler
but Pryor was accurate and very very fast and unlike most swarmers wasnt 100% brawler ...i think it makes perfect sense that Leonard could see himself winning over Hagler but not wanting to chance it over Pryor
Pryor-Hatton would have been awesome to watch,Theyd beat the $hit out of eachother lol
I can't really see how anyone can say Leonard ducked anybody. Who else boasts victories over three of perhaps the top 10 p4p guys in the history of boxing?
He would have beaten Pryor the same as he beat Wilfred Benitez
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
That fight could have gone either way
he still won after being off for 3 years to beat best middleweight at that time thats great achievement in my book
Good post until you say Pryor Hatton would have been an awesome match... Ricky would get killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by means2184
Yer i meant by decision mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Aaron Pryor was once asked what kinda fighter would it take to defeat him: He said he'd have to outsmart him ( Ray was a smart fighter but as smart as Pryor in the ring ), he would have to out bully him ( no chance of Ray doing that ), & he'd have to out fight me ( no one out fought Pryor ). I just don't see Ray winning that fight.
it would be great fight i dont really like choosing because i liked both fighters
i dont think its fair people saying he fought people when they were past there prime the guy is a legend he fought everyone except pryor but if u remember leonard retired so many times i really dont think he would of ducked pryor when he fought guys like hearns duran and hagler