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Clottey is a beast for 147 and the only reason he did not look so impressive in his last fight was because he was fighting another beast.
I don't know about that. They both looked very unimpressive. Quintana would be a much better fight. As would Collazo.
Unimpressed with those extremly high punch stats-did you actually see the fight? Your probably just trying to diminish tony's next apponent because he exposed your PBF.
I was impressed with both fighters and feel that all these new coloumbian fighters will get better with U.S. training. Clottey on the other hand took this fight on extremly short notice after Cintron dropped out--he just ran out of steam is all.
To take your own arguments Quintana has fought no one except Julio who has fought no one. Clottey, however has beaten your Baldomir quite severely and Margarito has challenged Quintana but Quintana backed down.
yes, i saw the fight. sam soliman has extremely high punch stats too, and he's a terrible fighter, if you can even call him that. i don't deny that Clottey is "tough," but he also looked seriously unskilled--it was an ugly fight. i haven't seen much else of him though, so maybe he just temporarily forgot how to use defense or through a good jab or move well or box that night.
i don't know how pbf became "mine" by virtue of knocking Clottey, or how Margarito's "exposed" anyone, especially someone he's never fought.
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Im not sure how good Clottey is Ive only seen his latest fight and I wasn't at all impressed... But we'll see. Hey at least Tony's staying active righht... Oh yeah... His last fight was a 10 second KO of a tomato can 10 months ago. I WONDER WHY NOONE IS CALLING HIM OUT ???
The most feared man thing is going overboard, he may never get a Floyd fight, its looking that way more now with Floyd going to 154, but he can get fights, Williams would fight him, I expect Quintana would too, and Baldomir. People will fight him, they just need to start making the fights and stop trying to just get a Floyd fight.
I agree %100
Re: Margarito new opponent
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Clottey is a beast for 147 and the only reason he did not look so impressive in his last fight was because he was fighting another beast.
I don't know about that. They both looked very unimpressive. Quintana would be a much better fight. As would Collazo.
Unimpressed with those extremly high punch stats-did you actually see the fight? Your probably just trying to diminish tony's next apponent because he exposed your PBF.
I was impressed with both fighters and feel that all these new coloumbian fighters will get better with U.S. training. Clottey on the other hand took this fight on extremly short notice after Cintron dropped out--he just ran out of steam is all.
To take your own arguments Quintana has fought no one except Julio who has fought no one. Clottey, however has beaten your Baldomir quite severely and Margarito has challenged Quintana but Quintana backed down.
yes, i saw the fight. sam soliman has extremely high punch stats too, and he's a terrible fighter, if you can even call him that. i don't deny that Clottey is "tough," but he also looked seriously unskilled--it was an ugly fight. i haven't seen much else of him though, so maybe he just temporarily forgot how to use defense or through a good jab or move well or box that night.
i don't know how pbf became "mine" by virtue of knocking Clottey, or how Margarito's "exposed" anyone, especially someone he's never fought.
If you dont think Soliman is a fighter then you have no concept of what a fighter is-- did you forget how he banged up Winky's face?
Any true boxing fan should also know that many extremely "successful boxers" have had poor boxing skills.
Your grabbin straws because Margarito exposed PBF's lack of courage.
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by shza
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Clottey is a beast for 147 and the only reason he did not look so impressive in his last fight was because he was fighting another beast.
I don't know about that. They both looked very unimpressive. Quintana would be a much better fight. As would Collazo.
Unimpressed with those extremly high punch stats-did you actually see the fight? Your probably just trying to diminish tony's next apponent because he exposed your PBF.
I was impressed with both fighters and feel that all these new coloumbian fighters will get better with U.S. training. Clottey on the other hand took this fight on extremly short notice after Cintron dropped out--he just ran out of steam is all.
To take your own arguments Quintana has fought no one except Julio who has fought no one. Clottey, however has beaten your Baldomir quite severely and Margarito has challenged Quintana but Quintana backed down.
yes, i saw the fight. sam soliman has extremely high punch stats too, and he's a terrible fighter, if you can even call him that. i don't deny that Clottey is "tough," but he also looked seriously unskilled--it was an ugly fight. i haven't seen much else of him though, so maybe he just temporarily forgot how to use defense or through a good jab or move well or box that night.
i don't know how pbf became "mine" by virtue of knocking Clottey, or how Margarito's "exposed" anyone, especially someone he's never fought.
If you dont think Soliman is a fighter then you have no concept of what a fighter is-- did you forget how he banged up Winky's face?
Any true boxing fan should also know that many extremely "successful boxers" have had poor boxing skills.
Your grabbin straws because Margarito exposed PBF's lack of courage.
stop with your nonsense
what do you have to say about all the fights that margarito has been refusing?
i guess paul williams exposed margaritos lack of courage, right?
or does that logic only apply to fighters that you like
mayweather is doing the right thing by taking on the man at 147 (no, i dont mean margarito)
christ, it hasnt even been 5 fights since margarito really was exposed by daniel santos (one of the best out there ::**)
btw...................daniel santos said he would be happy to give margarito a chance to redeem himself
and guess what.....................margarito wants no part of that either (big suprise)
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Clottey is a beast for 147 and the only reason he did not look so impressive in his last fight was because he was fighting another beast.
I don't know about that. They both looked very unimpressive. Quintana would be a much better fight. As would Collazo.
Unimpressed with those extremly high punch stats-did you actually see the fight? Your probably just trying to diminish tony's next apponent because he exposed your PBF.
I was impressed with both fighters and feel that all these new coloumbian fighters will get better with U.S. training. Clottey on the other hand took this fight on extremly short notice after Cintron dropped out--he just ran out of steam is all.
To take your own arguments Quintana has fought no one except Julio who has fought no one. Clottey, however has beaten your Baldomir quite severely and Margarito has challenged Quintana but Quintana backed down.
yes, i saw the fight. sam soliman has extremely high punch stats too, and he's a terrible fighter, if you can even call him that. i don't deny that Clottey is "tough," but he also looked seriously unskilled--it was an ugly fight. i haven't seen much else of him though, so maybe he just temporarily forgot how to use defense or through a good jab or move well or box that night.
i don't know how pbf became "mine" by virtue of knocking Clottey, or how Margarito's "exposed" anyone, especially someone he's never fought.
If you dont think Soliman is a fighter then you have no concept of what a fighter is-- did you forget how he banged up Winky's face?
Any true boxing fan should also know that many extremely "successful boxers" have had poor boxing skills.
Your grabbin straws because Margarito exposed PBF's lack of courage.
Do you really believe that. Do you really think he didn't fight tony cause he lacks courage?If so then i would say that you don't understand the business of boxing.
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Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
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This should end all of the Margarito talk after this loss
Re: Margarito new opponent
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Originally Posted by maracho
Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
The sadder thing is that Margarito isn't making 8 million to fight Clottey either.
I love Margarito, but I'm starting to really dislike Arum, he can make bigger fights happen if he focused on more then Floyd but he seems obsessed that the only big fight he'd let Tony get or that he'd work to get is a fight with Floyd. Why cant he let Margarito build a legacy off of fighting everyone else instead of wanting to put one name on his record and call it a legacy, it didn't work with Rahman and it didn't work with Tarver. Arum needs to stop messing around and let Tony fight the up and comers and good fighters instead of focusing only on PBF.
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There is one thing I dont get with all of this Margorito talk. He hasnt fought anybody. He fought Cintron but Cintron quit more than Margorito beat him. Yes I have seen the fight and that wasnt 100% Cintron. So he has beat a contender on a bad night, so what. Margorito just needs to shut up and get in there with everybody he can that is rated.
Re: Margarito new opponent
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Originally Posted by maracho
Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
The sadder thing is that Margarito isn't making 8 million to fight Clottey either.
I love Margarito, but I'm starting to really dislike Arum, he can make bigger fights happen if he focused on more then Floyd but he seems obsessed that the only big fight he'd let Tony get or that he'd work to get is a fight with Floyd. Why cant he let Margarito build a legacy off of fighting everyone else instead of wanting to put one name on his record and call it a legacy, it didn't work with Rahman and it didn't work with Tarver. Arum needs to stop messing around and let Tony fight the up and comers and good fighters instead of focusing only on PBF.
I think Arum realizes that Margarito isn't the "monster" his groupies say he is. He knows Margarito losses against decent fighters. So he's trying to cash him out with a Mayweather fight.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
The sadder thing is that Margarito isn't making 8 million to fight Clottey either.
I love Margarito, but I'm starting to really dislike Arum, he can make bigger fights happen if he focused on more then Floyd but he seems obsessed that the only big fight he'd let Tony get or that he'd work to get is a fight with Floyd. Why cant he let Margarito build a legacy off of fighting everyone else instead of wanting to put one name on his record and call it a legacy, it didn't work with Rahman and it didn't work with Tarver. Arum needs to stop messing around and let Tony fight the up and comers and good fighters instead of focusing only on PBF.
I think Arum realizes that Margarito isn't the "monster" his groupies say he is. He knows Margarito losses against decent fighters. So he's trying to cash him out with a Mayweather fight.
well put.....have a cc
if mayweather and margarito fight, floyd will have 8 mil and another bruseles on his record
if he beats spinks, then he makes something like 5mil plus another world title in yet another weight class
if he beats baldomir, then hes 100% the man at welter (and still gets like 5-6 million)
tough decision
Re: Margarito new opponent
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by maracho
Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
The sadder thing is that Margarito isn't making 8 million to fight Clottey either.
I love Margarito, but I'm starting to really dislike Arum, he can make bigger fights happen if he focused on more then Floyd but he seems obsessed that the only big fight he'd let Tony get or that he'd work to get is a fight with Floyd. Why cant he let Margarito build a legacy off of fighting everyone else instead of wanting to put one name on his record and call it a legacy, it didn't work with Rahman and it didn't work with Tarver. Arum needs to stop messing around and let Tony fight the up and comers and good fighters instead of focusing only on PBF.
Unfortunately, only Mayweather or Oscar can draw eneough for Arum to offer 8 million. Arum offered Winky more than he has ever made and tried his best to get Judah,
Mosley, and Quintana, to fight Margarito.
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by maracho
Your probably going to back up PBF excuse to turn down $8 million because he thought he was going to fight Oscar for $20 million. Oscar probably knows that there is not much glory in fighting Mayweather or they are both scared of each other.
Or actually it must be that its good boxing business to turn down $8 million to fight a nobody in order to fight, Judah or Baldomir for $3 to $5 million.
Anybody know what he make to fight Spinks? No way will it be $8 million.
The sadder thing is that Margarito isn't making 8 million to fight Clottey either.
I love Margarito, but I'm starting to really dislike Arum, he can make bigger fights happen if he focused on more then Floyd but he seems obsessed that the only big fight he'd let Tony get or that he'd work to get is a fight with Floyd. Why cant he let Margarito build a legacy off of fighting everyone else instead of wanting to put one name on his record and call it a legacy, it didn't work with Rahman and it didn't work with Tarver. Arum needs to stop messing around and let Tony fight the up and comers and good fighters instead of focusing only on PBF.
Unfortunately, only Mayweather or Oscar can draw eneough for Arum to offer 8 million. Arum offered Winky more than he has ever made and tried his best to get Judah,
Mosley, and Quintana, to fight Margarito.
WTF???
there is absolutely NO TRUTH to this statement (as far as the bob arum doing his best to make those fights happen)
sad that you have resorted to lying
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did he offer 8 mil to Winky like he did Floyd? they are 1 and 2 on the p4p?
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did he offer 8 mil to Winky like he did Floyd? they are 1 and 2 on the p4p?
winky is not nearly the draw that floyd is, sweetie
