Bad news about the Valero match,I don't think anyone will ever see it!!!

I picked Valero to win a decision I didn't think he'd be able to take Mosquera out but that power is serious! His defense is leaking but hopefully he's working on it. But that power... he's gonna make some noise with fights like this!

Valero looks like he's made of steel! You can tell he throws his punches with bad intentions just by looking at those pics! (CC to Kkisser for those)
To be honest although Ive heard the name before this fight I never saw any of V's fights and never knew much about him other than he was an up and coming prospect..im sure whoever finds this and posts it will be swamped in cc's

I'd hop onto the Valero hype train...but I dont think there are any seats left!

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Valero looks like he's made of steel! You can tell he throws his punches with bad intentions just by looking at those pics! (CC to Kkisser for those)
To be honest although Ive heard the name before this fight I never saw any of V's fights and never knew much about him other than he was an up and coming prospect..im sure whoever finds this and posts it will be swamped in cc's

I'd hop onto the Valero hype train...but I dont think there are any seats left!

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There's more than enough seats left on the train,jump in bro!! I'm telling you this guy is the truth!!

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Valero looks like he's made of steel!  You can tell he throws his punches with bad intentions just by looking at those pics! (CC to Kkisser for those)
To be honest although Ive heard the name before this fight I never saw any of V's fights and never knew much about him other than he was an up and coming prospect..im sure whoever finds this and posts it will be swamped in cc's

I'd hop onto the Valero hype train...but I dont think there are any seats left!

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There's more than enough seats left on the train,jump in bro!! I'm telling you this guy is the truth!!

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you have to leave me out for the moment too. valero's for real but i'm not sure how well he'll do against the top elite fighters in the division like pacquiao, barrera, barrios, etc. he did have some trouble against mosquera.

True but most were picking Mosquera to win and I can see Valero improving his defence,boxing more and backed up with true 130 power,that's a total package. He has only had 20 fights so I don't think he is ready for those guys just yet but give him time and he will be!
When Erik Morales said you hit hard with BOTH hands,that's some compliment seeing as Erik always says he's never hurt!

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True but most were picking Mosquera to win and I can see Valero improving his defence,boxing more and backed up with true 130 power,that's a total package. He has only had 20 fights so I don't think he is ready for those guys just yet but give him time and he will be!
When Erik Morales said you hit hard with BOTH hands,that's some compliment seeing as Erik always says he's never hurt!

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check the prediction contest, i was actually one of the few who picked mosquera. what impressed me with valero was that he didn't fade in the later rounds like i thought he would.

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True but most were picking Mosquera to win and I can see Valero improving his defence,boxing more and backed up with true 130 power,that's a total package. He has only had 20 fights so I don't think he is ready for those guys just yet but give him time and he will be!
When Erik Morales said you hit hard with BOTH hands,that's some compliment seeing as Erik always says he's never hurt!

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check the prediction contest, i was actually one of the few who picked mosquera. what impressed me with valero was that he didn't fade in the later rounds like i thought he would.

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Not just you bro,I mean other sites too and even some experts. Valero impressed me with stamina,ability to take a punch and get up,power lasting that long and boxing ability. ;D ESPECIALLY considering he had never fought beyond the SECOND round and then,in a title match,jumped to the 10 th round!

I just got hold of some more footage of Valero and this man possesses absolutely frightening power!! I can tell you now,I don't see a boxer beating him,he has the perfect style to beat a boxer,he uses his jab,keeps his opponent at the the end of it and absolutely bangs the body!! I mean rips it!! I have even heard that 1 of his sparring sessions had to be stopped because he nearly knocked the guy out!!?! In sparring?!!?! He needs to work on his d as he can be countered but power,footwork,speed,this guy will be number 1 and give him a year and I'd LOVE to see him fight Pacquiao and I know where I would put my money!

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I just got hold of some more footage of Valero and this man possesses absolutely frightening power!! I can tell you now,I don't see a boxer beating him,he has the perfect style to beat a boxer,he uses his jab,keeps his opponent at the the end of it and absolutely bangs the body!! I mean rips it!! I have even heard that 1 of his sparring sessions had to be stopped because he nearly knocked the guy out!!?! In sparring?!!?! He needs to work on his d as he can be countered but power,footwork,speed,this guy will be number 1 and give him a year and I'd LOVE to see him fight Pacquiao and I know where I would put my money!

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Me too my brother.

I'd put my money on Pac also. ;D

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I just got hold of some more footage of Valero and this man possesses absolutely frightening power!! I can tell you now,I don't see a boxer beating him,he has the perfect style to beat a boxer,he uses his jab,keeps his opponent at the the end of it and absolutely bangs the body!! I mean rips it!! I have even heard that 1 of his sparring sessions had to be stopped because he nearly knocked the guy out!!?! In sparring?!!?! He needs to work on his d as he can be countered but power,footwork,speed,this guy will be number 1 and give him a year and I'd LOVE to see him fight Pacquiao and I know where I would put my money!

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Me too my brother.

I'd put my money on Pac also. ;D

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Hahaha,trust me,in 1 year,Valero will have developed his D,he'll have even more experience and he is the one guy I have seen who I can envisage going toe to toe with Pacquiao,he has banging power and great accuracy! I saw some more more sparring amterial of him with Morales and the way in which he was timing and COUNTERING Morales!I couldn't believe it!

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I saw some more more sparring amterial of him with Morales and the way in which he was timing and COUNTERING Morales!I couldn't believe it!

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Now that is something that I would love to see.

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I just got hold of some more footage of Valero and this man possesses absolutely frightening power!! I can tell you now,I don't see a boxer beating him,he has the perfect style to beat a boxer,he uses his jab,keeps his opponent at the the end of it and absolutely bangs the body!! I mean rips it!! I have even heard that 1 of his sparring sessions had to be stopped because he nearly knocked the guy out!!?! In sparring?!!?! He needs to work on his d as he can be countered but power,footwork,speed,this guy will be number 1 and give him a year and I'd LOVE to see him fight Pacquiao and I know where I would put my money!

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Me too my brother.

I'd put my money on Pac also. ;D

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i'd also pick manny. if mosquera could hurt him, the pac could give him some serious beatings especially in the late rounds. valero has to catch pacquiao early in the fight to stand a chance.

Naaa,I think Valero is the 1 guy that could stand toe to toe with Pac with his power and also,he is very good at countering and Pacquiao would not have the advantage of being southpaw either. Guys like MAB/EM are older now,they have to box more,but Valero is young and can just go to war and I think his power is as good as Pac's too. Like I said,give him more experience and slightly better Defence and this guy will be a monstor!!

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Naaa,I think Valero is the 1 guy that could stand toe to toe with Pac with his power and also,he is very good at countering and Pacquiao would not have the advantage of being southpaw either. Guys like MAB/EM are older now,they have to box more,but Valero is young and can just go to war and I think his power is as good as Pac's too. Like I said,give him more experience and slightly better Defence and this guy will be a monstor!!

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I think you get a bit carried away with your fighters Game. Sure he's really exciting but it sounds like this Mosquera fight was a war. Now I may be wrong and Mosquera may have been an elite featherweight I had just never heard of, but being dropped and almost on your feet a couple of times during the fight against him isn't a strong foundation to build upon when facing someone like the pacman.

Valero definitely has raw potential but he sure as hell isn't going to be beating Pacquiao or Berrara any time soon.

I'd like to see him in with Humberto Soto, who looked mighty impressive last weekend.

Oh and the 12 grand for the fight, if that is UK money that is fuck all, costs more to run an advert!

If it's 12 grand US Dollars, then thats about 6 grand UK which is about the same price as a decent bottle of wine at Gordon Ramseys restuarant.

So 12 grand is not expensive in the slightest, are you sure you didn't mean 120 grand, which even then isn't all that much.

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I saw some more more sparring amterial of him with Morales and the way in which he was timing and COUNTERING Morales!I couldn't believe it!

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Now that is something that I would love to see.

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yeah...seeing is believing!!!! vid anyone???