Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
You Fuggin know it!!!!!!!!!!! Right there Click on Bro.......... :coolclick:
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
You Fuggin know it!!!!!!!!!!! Right there Click on Bro.......... :coolclick:
Right back at ya ace, Taylor may not have looked that impressive but what is impressive is he went up against 2 of the best 3 times & held his own!
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
Let me just say this...I'm really REALLY big on Jermain Taylor. By far, he is talented & he's definently the best at 160lbs right now.
He got in the ring with the most talented middleweight in the last 10 years when he faced Hopkins & he did hold his own. Whether or not I thought that he did enough to win is entirely another story.
He got in the ring with one of the better defensively minded junior middleweights in the last 10 or 15 years when he faced Wright & again...he did more than hold his own...but again...the question of whether or not I thought that he did enough to win is once more an entirely another story. The thing is...he did do better than anyone period has...in the last 3-4 years. That's to be considered.
I've been a huge fan of the above three fighters since they all came into boxing...or since I started watching them.
I think that Hopkins will go down as my most favorite fighter of all time.
I think that Wright will come in at maybe third or fourth over all.
Taylor is still on my list...just not as high up as he was in the favs & all.
I was far more impressed with Taylor initially...more so than I am now.
I had a lot more love for Taylor before he was drawn into the Dibella/Hopkins fued. Prior to his "personality twist" (at the hands of Dibella) I thought that he was the future of 160lbs...that he was a good follow up to the Executioner.
Those thoughts are not that far out of reach or me still...BUT...I want to see him go back to who he was.
He's the champ now...but I can't say that I am that thrilled with the direction that "the Champ" has been pushed in to.
Taylor has had an odd run at the top...but I honestly believe that he can get back to who & what he was before the last two or three fights. He can reach the critical consensus & direction that he was headed towards before the first Hopkins fight & the Wright fight.
He just needs a few easy opponents that he can drop off for the public's satisfaction. To be the King...you don't have to rule the world...just your fellow subjects around you.
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
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Agreed with the majority of that...but I still say the Nard won the first fight. Old story though...it's over & done with...but Taylor can be all that he can be, IWO.
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
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Agreed with the majority of that...but I still say the Nard won the first fight. Old story though...it's over & done with...but Taylor can be all that he can be, IWO.
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Let me just say this...I'm really REALLY big on Jermain Taylor. By far, he is talented & he's definently the best at 160lbs right now.
Not until he rematches Wright he ain't IMO
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
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Agreed with the majority of that...but I still say the Nard won the first fight. Old story though...it's over & done with...but Taylor can be all that he can be, IWO.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Have 1 back my friend...
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me just say this...I'm really REALLY big on Jermain Taylor. By far, he is talented & he's definently the best at 160lbs right now.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Not until he rematches Wright he ain't IMO
Alright...here's my response to that...I love Wright...I think that he's the S***...BUT...Wright, IWO, isn't a 100% settled deal for me at 160lbs either. Also, if Winky knows he won (& I think that he did) then he should take the rematch & beat him one more time.
Then I'd be convinced. I loved that fight by the way. ;D
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
You gotta give Taylor credit for facing such tough opposition 2 fighters with Hopkins & 1 against Wright both who are top 10 P4P fighters & he hasn't lost! I thought he was lucky to get the draw with Wright but thought he won both fights with Hopkins. Neither guy dominated Taylor which says a lot about his talent. Sure he didn't win convincingly but he wasn't beaten convincingly either. There were many who didn't even give him a shot at Hopkins the 1st time so to be in the position he is as middleweight champion with a 1st defense win over the #1 contender then his 2nd defense draw against the #1 contender is top notch. Taylor can only get better from here, he's already fought two of the best fighters in the world & hasn't lost who can ask for more than that?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Agreed with the majority of that...but I still say the Nard won the first fight. Old story though...it's over & done with...but Taylor can be all that he can be, IWO.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Have 1 back my friend...
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Let me just say this...I'm really REALLY big on Jermain Taylor. By far, he is talented & he's definently the best at 160lbs right now.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Not until he rematches Wright he ain't IMO
Alright...here's my response to that...I love Wright...I think that he's the S***...BUT...Wright, IWO, isn't a 100% settled deal for me at 160lbs either. Also, if Winky knows he won (& I think that he did) then he should take the rematch & beat him one more time.
Then I'd be convinced. I loved that fight by the way. ;D
Me to bro, have the rematch & set things straight
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF JAMAICA PLAIN"
He has fought great opposition but he has yet to " impress me " He is a top tier fighter, no doubt... But he has yet to asssert himself as the premier MW Champ ^-^
Hate to break ballz brother, but that statement is condradictory "He is top tier no doubt"????But he is not impressive to you
You all forget...When was the last time Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright got KO'D or involved in a offenseive gunfight or looked overmatched???? I think it is impressive that this "kid" and "prospect" has 2 wins and a draw(controversial or not) against 2 Hall Of Famers Oh and By the way the 2 premier defenders(besides James Toney ) in the game the past 10 years and still is middleweight champion..
and he is just starting to reach his prime ;)
Its not contradictory... He is top tier cuz he hangs with top tier opponants... that doesnt mean, because he can hang in a fight with the greats of our time that he should be on a pedistal above them. I want to see him rise as the new power in the div or see someone i.e. Wright, take it from him.
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
i think jt is a good fighter and respect him alot, you gota take your hat off to him he is fighting the right guys just the decisions have been a bit controversial, hes a big middleweight with a strong jab and good right hand his stamina is not the best and his experince will only get better with time. Training with manny in the kronk is the way forward and i can see jt sticking at the top for a long time
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
it would be interesting if he moves up to super middleweight and fights calzaghe that would be good fight because i think i heard him say he wanted to move up
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
it would be interesting if he moves up to super middleweight and fights calzaghe that would be good fight because i think i heard him say he wanted to move up
If Taylor moves up to fight Joe...he's an idiot. PERIOD.
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
i think i heard him say he would move up but i doubt he will if i was him i would rematch wright if he does beat wright in rematch who does he fight then ??
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i think i heard him say he would move up but i doubt he will
I'd love for him to try & do what Bernard did...just to see if he could.
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
if he can beat wright in rematch i think he can dominate the divison
Re: **What will make Jermain Taylor "THE" Premier MW Champ** Cuz he's not
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
if he can beat wright in rematch i think he can dominate the divison
I'll agree there.
I like both of them...but I favor Wright...mainly because I think that Wright is pretty much the whole package...save the fact that he doesn't have stopping power in one hand.
Wright is a better boxer all around. He might not excite people...but he does win his fights when he wins his fights.
Know what I mean?
