James Toney puts rumors to rest!!!!

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

Until Britain or America produce a white heavyweight champ then there hasn't been a true white heavyweight.
Bilbo


I will step up and say that I completley understand what you are saying and agree with you 100%

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Well done, it's rare to meet somebody on a forum who can understand that acknowleding racial differences does not equate to being racist.

All I am saying, and at least you can agree is that a Russian heavyweight is as far removed from being of British or American descent than are black Africans or Japanese.

It's not racist in the slightest to say that as an Englishman (or American) we share no cultural, religious or ideological heritage whatesover to Russians, so there has still not been a White heavyweight in the sense that a British or American fan would like to see.

I'm sure if Tommy Morrison became undisputed heavyweight champ, that the Russians would look on him in the same way, that he is American and therefore no more close to being Russian than Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson. So they wouldn't think , great WE have a White Heavyweight world champion now.


Thats all I am saying, that a White Russian isn't a White British or American and so WE (America and Britain) are still looking for a great white hope!

Anyways I'm glad you saw what I was saying, you will probably be the only one but what the hell. :coolclick:

Here there are so many different races & cultures all in one city & many of you would be nervous here!

NorthSide. North, North Side.


I am not sure where you are talking about, but I agree with you on this statment. At least with how it pertains to me personally. I am not comfortable in public as it is. You set me down in the middle of chinatown or little italy and I might go into convulsions and die. I do not hate other races, but I am certainly aware of it when I am one of the few people of my own race within earshot.

I have plenty of black friends and way too many white ones, but outside of those two races I hardly come in contact with anything else. In school that was a different story, but as an adult 99% of my friends are black or white.

When I am at a family gathering of one of my black friends I feel funny being the only white person there. Not because I hate them or they hate me, but because there is strength in numbers.

Race wars don't really happen on an individual level but when it's mass against mass. At least not in this country

fuck race lads! thats not what its about

its about the nightmares lights bieng put out,
and when james wins
HE GOIN' TO BUGER KING!! Haha

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

Until Britain or America produce a white heavyweight champ then there hasn't been a true white heavyweight.
Bilbo


I will step up and say that I completley understand what you are saying and agree with you 100%

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learn your History gents . Rocky Marciano was white and undisputed undefeated Heavyweight champion ,, Tommy Morrison grabbed the fringe WBO Title. now - now blokes , The only color that matters in boxing is the color RED. everyone bleeds and everyone can be beat white- black Asian Russian American - who cares really, when 2 guys come in shape and give there best in the ring, there aint no losers.

So.. James Toney... training.... lets talk about that huh?

ye was thinkin that myself!!

hehe have you seen the toney sparring vids on youtube? makes me chuckle, he jus talks trash to everybody!! like all ya mamma bitch and all this lol
peace

Irratates me... :P

He shouts at tall rangey fighters for not coming forwards against him and fighting his fight. he should be coming forwards and fighting in his range... not expecting on them to forefit theres.

No one will [i]let you win[i] James... after 75 pro fights you'd think he'd get this....

He'll never be Heavyweight champ unless he sorts his attitude.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Irratates me... :P

He shouts at tall rangey fighters for not coming forwards against him and fighting his fight. he should be coming forwards and fighting in his range... not expecting on them to forefit theres.

No one will [i]let you win[i] James... after 75 pro fights you'd think he'd get this....

He'll never be Heavyweight champ unless he sorts his attitude.

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ner dude i wouldnt say its cos theyr tall, reckon he jus does it to get em off his game , n he only does it when hes against the roped cos hes knackered.
n i dunno man i really hope he wins a world heavywieght title, im just a fan of the bad guys i guess
jus somethin bout him that makes me wana watch , i always like the bad guys!

James Toney is great, I love that about him ! the trash talk , he is just spectacular, the main reason is he back up his sh*^ for the most part thats makes it fun . ... its when guys can't back it , that gives me headache. Toney is pure entertainment. and entertainment does have value !

I respect him as a fighter, boxer and tactition... just think he needs to sort his attitude out... fair points but I honestly think he should be taking the fight to the taller guys.

Because thats how he will win... by getting inside... scoring points and being gone. If he fights a fighter who listens to his corner unlike Rahman, has a 10th more of the brains that rahman did... doesn't matter if they have half the skil of toney they will just keep him at range and out work him.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

I respect him as a fighter, boxer and tactition... just think he needs to sort his attitude out... fair points but I honestly think he should be taking the fight to the taller guys.

Because thats how he will win... by getting inside... scoring points and being gone. If he fights a fighter who listens to his corner unlike Rahman, has a 10th more of the brains that rahman did... doesn't matter if they have half the skil of toney they will just keep him at range and out work him.

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I think very few of today’s Heavyweight fighters are going to out work James ,most of the Heavyweights look spent before the bell rings. To be honest it’s a Lazy ass division. Toney thinking why train hard? , everyone sucks . You need the Holyfield type fighters to get Toney motivated. fighters Toney respects. Now Sam Peter ought to provide the threat level to get Toney back in shape.

I miss the Evander Holyfield days , Evander made his opponents get in the best possible shape , because they knew they had no chance to win unless they were at their best, You look at today’s guys and you think, fuck it.. I can beat these guys after drinking a case of Beer. No threat Level. Sloppy slow tired looking division , with the exception a few up and comers Chaz Witherspoon for example might provide us with some sustained action .

Side note * Champions like Oleg Maskive will raise the dead ! And with #1 Contenders like John Ruiz. Who needs to train? Its sad but true.

Yeah, the division lacks warriors like Holyfeild.

All of the generation that should be fighting at heavyweight are playing football or basketball... a lot of the division are big athletes there because it's open for them.

'Joe Bugner syndrome' you could call it ;)

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Originally Posted by body head banger

F*** race lads! thats not what its about

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"Maybe we should ship em off to Mexico & let the mexicans eat em! White power." ;D

You want me to take off my mask?

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

You want me to take off my mask?

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Ya'll wanna see my face...ya'll wanna see my face?

Shiiiiiiinnnnne a light!

We can have cake & punch...& talk about white brotherhood...