Klitschko to fight this guy!

I say that Brock will lose by Decision, Wlad cant put him out IMHO....

And possibly by chance, Wlad's overconfidence will get the best of him and Brock will beat him...

Truthfully, Brock doesnt have anything to lose by fighting Wlad, but, Wlad has alot to lose by screwing up and losing to Brock....So in the end, who really has more pressure on him to win...???

Just watch over the next month or so...

Do we know of the Venue>>??? Where, When and so forth.....

Good Luck,

Coach

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He put Wlad down 3 times....only ONCE did he do it with a legal punch!

Brock is good but he's not going to beat Wlad, if Lawrence can outbox him and McCline can put him down Wlad will be able to put him out.

Brock won't quit but part of me wonders if that will be good to do if he's getting his a** handed to him

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I understand what you are saying here, but, remember who came out of those fights with the wins....

The way I see it, Lawrence didnt outbox S***, he got KTFO in the sixth, so end of story on that.....And if McCline couldnt do his job by keeping the man down after he knocked him down, I wouldnt brag about knocking him down in the first place....

So we need better exscuses than these when looking at Brock...

I personally know two of the guys he fought and I know how tought Terry Smith is, he may not be the smoothest cat out there, but the boy can fight. I also know Jim Strohl...As a matter of fact, he isnt even fighting HW anymore, I believe he dropped some major punds here recently for a fight in Cali. and I know when he was HW, he hit hard as a bull...

So I look at this way, with the upsets and embarassments we have seen in Boxing recently, do you really want to count Brock out???

Good Luck,

Coach

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Are you that power punching guy? I bet you are man!

Wladi knocks Brock out inside 3 rounds ! a real ass beat this one. IMO

Brock is a much safer fight then Briggs.

Briggs - Klitch was more of a dice shoot, who could get that punch in first. both fighters Tall strong Punchers , with the same type of Jaw durability or lack there of .

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Wladi knocks Brock out inside 3 rounds ! a real a** beat this one. IMO

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I say that Brock will lose by Decision, Wlad cant put him out IMHO....

And possibly by chance, Wlad's overconfidence will get the best of him and Brock will beat him...

Truthfully, Brock doesnt have anything to lose by fighting Wlad, but, Wlad has alot to lose by screwing up and losing to Brock....So in the end, who really has more pressure on him to win...???

Just watch over the next month or so...

Do we know of the Venue>>??? Where, When and so forth.....

Good Luck,

Coach

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All Wlad has to lose is the belt...no one knows how good Brock is Coach

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Wlad isn't over confident, his training with Manny has paid off big time...he destroyed Chris Byrd and he saw the openings for the punches before Manny even told him in the corner (Manny) "He's showing us the same thing that Peter did"; (Wlad) "I know, I saw it"...that sold me on how much Wlad has improved...and he's shown he has more heart than anyone ever thought getting up from knockdowns vs Sam Peter to win in dominant fashion.

Brock still has a lot of question marks and honestly I see him as another Bonecrusher Smith...he's talented but not to the point where he's a scary fight to make

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I say that Brock will lose by Decision, Wlad cant put him out IMHO....

And possibly by chance, Wlad's overconfidence will get the best of him and Brock will beat him...

Truthfully, Brock doesnt have anything to lose by fighting Wlad, but, Wlad has alot to lose by screwing up and losing to Brock....So in the end, who really has more pressure on him to win...???

Just watch over the next month or so...

Do we know of the Venue>>??? Where, When and so forth.....

Good Luck,

Coach

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All Wlad has to lose is the belt...no one knows how good Brock is Coach

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Wlad isn't over confident, his training with Manny has paid off big time...he destroyed Chris Byrd and he saw the openings for the punches before Manny even told him in the corner (Manny) "He's showing us the same thing that Peter did"; (Wlad) "I know, I saw it"...that sold me on how much Wlad has improved...and he's shown he has more heart than anyone ever thought getting up from knockdowns vs Sam Peter to win in dominant fashion.

Brock still has a lot of question marks and honestly I see him as another Bonecrusher Smith...he's talented but not to the point where he's a scary fight to make

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Not just the belt my friend, he is still trying to solidify his position here...

You dont think that losing his belt to someone like Brock would hurt him at all????

Brock can lose this fight and still be ok with that on his record....Sam Peter did it and I dont feel he is all that either....



Good Luck,

Coach

Well if no one really knows how good Brock is then you don't have anything to be afraid of if he loses Coach....I mean perhaps he's the kind of guy who just does enough to win everytime...I mean he's undefeated right now.


But in all honesty Wlad SHOULD can and will KO Calvin Brock before round 8

Well Brock is the best available guy out there, perhaps with the exception of Lyakovich.

If WK beats Brock, and he will, then he only needs to defeat Maskaev, and he will because Oleg is too slow, Valuev same, and Lyakovich, a tough fight he wll win by being bigger and more experienced, and perhaps toney, and then he can be a champ for 5 years. I mean soon he has met everyone who is a threat.

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Well Brock is the best available guy out there, perhaps with the exception of Lyakovich.

If WK beats Brock, and he will, then he only needs to defeat Maskaev, and he will because Oleg is too slow, Valuev same, and Lyakovich, a tough fight he wll win by being bigger and more experienced, and perhaps toney, and then he can be a champ for 5 years. I mean soon he has met everyone who is a threat.

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I would love to see Wlad: Toney down the line...

Im a huge Toney fan, but im not insane enough to believe he would go in there and do a number on Wlad though!! ;D

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I say that Brock will lose by Decision, Wlad cant put him out IMHO....

And possibly by chance, Wlad's overconfidence will get the best of him and Brock will beat him...

Truthfully, Brock doesnt have anything to lose by fighting Wlad, but, Wlad has alot to lose by screwing up and losing to Brock....So in the end, who really has more pressure on him to win...???

Just watch over the next month or so...

Do we know of the Venue>>??? Where, When and so forth.....

Good Luck,

Coach

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All Wlad has to lose is the belt...no one knows how good Brock is Coach

MADISON SQUARE GARDEN NOVEMBER 11TH

Wlad isn't over confident, his training with Manny has paid off big time...he destroyed Chris Byrd and he saw the openings for the punches before Manny even told him in the corner (Manny) "He's showing us the same thing that Peter did"; (Wlad) "I know, I saw it"...that sold me on how much Wlad has improved...and he's shown he has more heart than anyone ever thought getting up from knockdowns vs Sam Peter to win in dominant fashion.

Brock still has a lot of question marks and honestly I see him as another Bonecrusher Smith...he's talented but not to the point where he's a scary fight to make

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You know, just because you see something doesn't mean you can stop it.

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Lawrence was making Brock look bad OR Brock just looked bad...that left hook was set up more by Zuri's lack of experience I mean the guy said "How'd I do?" and I believe he also forgot his mouthpiece in his corner between rounds...and he took Brock into the 6th round. (Zuri has 30 wins and ZERO KO's I mean for the love of Christ who can do that?!?!?)

Calvin came out with the win vs 2 HORRID opponents 1 of whom Wlad crushed into the canvas over 10 rounds.

Wlad has been beat by 2 guys who could withstand his power and 1 guy who had huge power and was a southpaw....I see no such trouble for Wlad in a fight with Brock.

It's all well and good for Brock to have the do or die attitude but when it comes to this fight he can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets filled first!

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You can't compare that one guy did something to one opponent while another did it in this fashion because styles are different.

Zuri has 0 KO's but he's not a bad fighter. To make it THAT far and only have 0 Ko's is astounding! I think it's more impressivethen is made out to be. Everybody thought McCline would knock him out.

Brock is just too inexperianced at this time in his career to fight someone like the klitster ;)

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You know, just because you see something doesn't mean you can stop it.

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He wasn't trying to stop anything he saw a hole in Byrd's defense and OBVIOUSLY nailed it the very next round causing the first knockdown of the fight

Majesty I understand what you say about styles but the fact that it's hard for ANYONE to win rounds vs Wlad is good enough for me to say he can outbox Calvin Brock who has had trouble with BOXERS like Zuri Lawrence before. If Zuri had Wlad's jab he would be a lot better than he is right now.

Brock is a good guy and is right now what I would call more of a prospect than a contender...he's got some good fights but he doesn't have the power to stop a lot of guys (left hook on Lawrence aside other than that his power hasn't impressed me) he can't outbox a lot of guys either...he's a good average fighter which is very rare in this division but vs Wladimir Klitschko it just won't be enough.

Plus he's never been in with a puncher like this and I think it will show off his biggest weaknesses (defense and chin)

i like brock. i want him to win

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i like brock. i want him to win

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Thats a fair statement :coolclick: I agree, I would will Brock to win...

Would be tough though....very tough...