Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by play it again sam
First Lacy then Mack and the next American hype flop in SMW will be Allan Green. All of them had much bigger mouths and hypes then their actual talents and boxing skills. Why do Americans boxers always hype themselves before they had proved something? –and why do American boxing fans always believe in their S*** talking? Lacy fooled almost the whole American boxing scene. Stick to the old school and keep you mouth shot until you are actually sure that you are world-class.
of all the forums in all the world.. he walked into mine.
he's looking at you kid.
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So that's how we treat Royalty here, huh boss? :appl:
Royal is like an urban myth/ cult hero on this forum, he's like Valero 12 months ago, that guy with 100% 1st round KO's but couldn't fight on tv cos he had a weird injury! Now royal is like that, his posts are legendary but he can't be found anywhere.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
And although we disagree on a lot of things, we also see eye to eye on most, your definatly one of my fave posters along with wacko, and we actually keep some of 'the truth' on this forum between us...
Agreed...about us disagreeing. ;D Aint nothing wrong with it & there is never any love lost between us.
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Mayweather may be a great talent, but he sure as hell ain't unbeatable! Ask Tony or Rick!
Yeah. Ask Tony or Rick...errrrrrrrrrrrrrmmm...ask em fwockin what?!?!? Can they beat Floyd? Sure they'll say yeah...but so did 36 others...& they got their asses handed to em.
Yes Floyd is beatable...but I don't believe that Tony can do it. Maybe Hatton...but he can't comepete with the elite at 147lbs & he looked less than spectacular when he tried.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
Ditto Dan,you are also one of my fave posters,the main reason:keeping it real. You use valid points and see both sides of the argument! I worry about Valero though,when Mosquera floored him,I was so scared but he came back stronger! He has flaws,apparent ones but for someone just starting out,dam he's good!
Back to Lacy,who do you guys want to see him fight next? Heck,how do you guys see Green Lacy going? I honestly think Jeff would eat him alive!
Wack,you and I both know it's not like that and I disagree,most of the guys that got into the ring with PBF didn't think they could win! They had doubts,you could see in how they fought! We shall see after the Oscar fight,not long to go and hopefully,if Margarito is on the right track,they can fight like PBF said he would.Then we will see what Floyd is made of.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by play it again sam
First Lacy then Mack and the next American hype flop in SMW will be Allan Green. All of them had much bigger mouths and hypes then their actual talents and boxing skills. Why do Americans boxers always hype themselves before they had proved something? and why do American boxing fans always believe in their S*** talking? Lacy fooled almost the whole American boxing scene. Stick to the old school and keep you mouth shot until you are actually sure that you are world-class.
Same old nationalistic hater bullshit, same old idotic poster under a new & unimproved name.
That being said. Green is terrible...nothing like Lacy...so this thread is a bit pointless...but it sure does bring out the stupidity...which has become almost humerous in a Royal way.
Actually judging a fighter on a rough night and saying he's terrible is a bit much. Every fighter struggles, what matters is if you win the fight. And Green won the fight. Just because you wasn't impressed doesn't make Green a bad fighter.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
??? Pointless thread, whats wrong with jeff lacy anyway? He didn't change just because he lost to Calzaghe, its just that Joe had the style, determination and most importantly prepared better than Jeff. On another night Jeff could have landed the punch to wobble Calzaghe. Just coz he lost, it doesn't mean he ain't the guy that destroyed Reid, Sheika, Pemberton etc. and it doesn't mean he isn't better OR worse than Allan Green. And just cos Allan Green had one rough night it doesn't mean he's the next Jeff Lacy.... I hate fickle fans who will write off a fighter because they have a rougher night than usual. Do you never have a bad day at work/school?
Agreed!!!!!!! :coolclick: The Lacy Hate Pisses me off :furious2: and makes Fuking sick... :throwup:
You all judge the guy on one performance against a guy who is undefeated and has been a champ for 8 straight years, Whats the point of this thread anyway??? Is Allan Green a power punching machine who has beat everyone and literally destroyed evryone they put in front of him until he fights the best fighter in the world for that division...I guess we will have to find out wont we!!!!!!!
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
??? Pointless thread, whats wrong with jeff lacy anyway? He didn't change just because he lost to Calzaghe, its just that Joe had the style, determination and most importantly prepared better than Jeff. On another night Jeff could have landed the punch to wobble Calzaghe. Just coz he lost, it doesn't mean he ain't the guy that destroyed Reid, Sheika, Pemberton etc. and it doesn't mean he isn't better OR worse than Allan Green. And just cos Allan Green had one rough night it doesn't mean he's the next Jeff Lacy.... I hate fickle fans who will write off a fighter because they have a rougher night than usual. Do you never have a bad day at work/school?
Agreed!!!!!!!  :coolclick: The Lacy Hate Pisses me off :furious2: and makes Fuking sick... :throwup:
You all judge the guy on one performance against a guy who is undefeated and has been a champ for 8 straight years, Whats the point of this thread anyway??? Is Allan Green a power punching machine who has beat everyone and literally destroyed evryone they put in front of him until he fights the best fighter in the world for that division...I guess we will have to find out wont we!!!!!!!
And is Green a bad fighter because he struggled with a good opponent last night.  Lacy had his Sheika fight his Wiggins fight his Williams fight and he continued on well.  :)  But Green has a tough fight as he's coming up and they say he's terrible ::** Sometimes I think people just want to see Green lose because of the Codrington incident.  But if you actually knew the situation here it is..
His "plug of the car dealership" wasn't to diss Codrington ::**  The guy who he was promoting was supposed to have his emblem put on Allan's trunks to promote the dealership for the fight, but the stichier(if thats what you call them) never showed up, so Green gave the credit to the guy after the fight.  THAT is the reason it happened, it had nothing to do with Jaidon, but these bullshit announcers just find reason to discredit anything a fighter does acting like they knew the whole story ::** 
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
The scores aren't back yet for the Allan Green fight but I think he barely won. He knocked Linton down, but it F****** obvious that the guy can't even go 12 rounds. He gassed out in the seventh after trying to KO Linton. OK, he won UD. The guy repeat can not fight JoeCal now. I don't know what it is with these young fighters like Taylor and Green but they all have stamina problems. You'd think that they have the edge in stamina. IF Green fought JoeCal, he'd be beaten to a bloody pulp. Green shouldn't get on his own hype train this fast, he should really take some twelve round fights and get used to fight that long.
Again whats the point of this thread???? There isin't even a reference of Jeff Lacy in your original Post here.....If you are comparing there staminas Jeff has gone 12 rounds a few times and has NEVER HAD STAMINA ISSUES!!!!!!!!! Against Calzaghe he was getting swarmed for 3min a round for 12 rounds and the kid kept coming forward regardless of the helacious beating he was taking....Hardly a Stamina issue with Jeff ::**
Hype!!!! What the Fuk is it with this Hype nonsense??? Was he or wasn't he an undefeated champ when he went to England??? Did he or did he not brutally knock out most of his opponents???? I think he deserved the so called "Hype" Just cause he and his people were confident they were gonna win against Calzaghe dosent constitute his as over hyped its not like he was acting like Mayorga or Toney in his press conferences. I mean aren't all fighters supposed to be confident they will win??
One loss dosent mean he has to start a career collecting grocery carts in the market parking lot ::**
His career is far from over he has plenty of time to develop into an even bigger superstar and Champion
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
The scores aren't back yet for the Allan Green fight but I think he barely won. He knocked Linton down, but it F****** obvious that the guy can't even go 12 rounds. He gassed out in the seventh after trying to KO Linton. OK, he won UD. The guy repeat can not fight JoeCal now. I don't know what it is with these young fighters like Taylor and Green but they all have stamina problems. You'd think that they have the edge in stamina. IF Green fought JoeCal, he'd be beaten to a bloody pulp. Green shouldn't get on his own hype train this fast, he should really take some twelve round fights and get used to fight that long.
Again whats the point of this thread???? There isin't even a reference of Jeff Lacy in your original Post here.....If you are comparing there staminas Jeff has gone 12 rounds a few times and has NEVER HAD STAMINA ISSUES!!!!!!!!! Against Calzaghe he was getting swarmed for 3min a round for 12 rounds and the kid kept coming forward regardless of the helacious beating he was taking....Hardly a Stamina issue with Jeff ::**
Hype!!!! What the Fuk is it with this Hype nonsense??? Was he or wasn't he an undefeated champ when he went to England??? Did he or did he not brutally knock out most of his opponents???? I think he deserved the so called "Hype" Just cause he and his people were confident they were gonna win against Calzaghe dosent constitute his as over hyped aren't all fighters supposed to be confident they will win??
One loss dosent mean he has to start a career collecting grocery carts in the market parking lot ::**
His career is far from over he has plenty of time to develop into an even bigger superstar and Champion
The Calzaghe fans want to try to downgrade Lacy but what they failt to realise is that calling Lacy a bum only shows that the only reason Calzaghe won was because Lacy wasa bum ::** IF thats the case then they can't say Calzaghe is the best 168 pounder if he just beat an "overhyped bum" ::** If I was a Calzaghe fan I would be building up Jeff Lacy as the greatest thing since sliced bread to ever hit the Super Middleweight division ;)
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
The scores aren't back yet for the Allan Green fight but I think he barely won. He knocked Linton down, but it F****** obvious that the guy can't even go 12 rounds. He gassed out in the seventh after trying to KO Linton. OK, he won UD. The guy repeat can not fight JoeCal now. I don't know what it is with these young fighters like Taylor and Green but they all have stamina problems. You'd think that they have the edge in stamina. IF Green fought JoeCal, he'd be beaten to a bloody pulp. Green shouldn't get on his own hype train this fast, he should really take some twelve round fights and get used to fight that long.
Again whats the point of this thread???? There isin't even a reference of Jeff Lacy in your original Post here.....If you are comparing there staminas Jeff has gone 12 rounds a few times and has NEVER HAD STAMINA ISSUES!!!!!!!!! Against Calzaghe he was getting swarmed for 3min a round for 12 rounds and the kid kept coming forward regardless of the helacious beating he was taking....Hardly a Stamina issue with Jeff ::**
Hype!!!! What the Fuk is it with this Hype nonsense??? Was he or wasn't he an undefeated champ when he went to England??? Did he or did he not brutally knock out most of his opponents???? I think he deserved the so called "Hype" Just cause he and his people were confident they were gonna win against Calzaghe dosent constitute his as over hyped aren't all fighters supposed to be confident they will win??
One loss dosent mean he has to start a career collecting grocery carts in the market parking lot ::**
His career is far from over he has plenty of time to develop into an even bigger superstar and Champion
The Calzaghe fans want to try to downgrade Lacy but what they failt to realise is that calling Lacy a bum only shows that the only reason Calzaghe won was because Lacy wasa bum ::** IF thats the case then they can't say Calzaghe is the best 168 pounder if he just beat an "overhyped bum" ::** If I was a Calzaghe fan I would be building up Jeff Lacy as the greatest thing since sliced bread to ever hit the Super Middleweight division ;)
Great point majesty cc. Never thought of it like that, but you are right. IF they want to call Lacy a bum and say he wasnt world class to begin with then that just down plays Calzaghe's win over him.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
Green was lucky as hell to get the decision IMO. Without the KD he shoulda lost. With it he still shoulda lost IMO or gotten a draw. He better stay far far away from Jeff Lacy if he likes having his head attached to his shoulders. Lacy will destroy him, fo sure. Boy that Emmit Linton had some heart and was a gutsy SOB. Don't wanna cause any trouble on his bus! ;D
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by Saddo
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Originally Posted by play it again sam
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
??? Pointless thread, whats wrong with jeff lacy anyway? He didn't change just because he lost to Calzaghe, its just that Joe had the style, determination and most importantly prepared better than Jeff. On another night Jeff could have landed the punch to wobble Calzaghe. Just coz he lost, it doesn't mean he ain't the guy that destroyed Reid, Sheika, Pemberton etc. and it doesn't mean he isn't better OR worse than Allan Green. And just cos Allan Green had one rough night it doesn't mean he's the next Jeff Lacy.... I hate fickle fans who will write off a fighter because they have a rougher night than usual. Do you never have a bad day at work/school?
First Lacy then Mack and the next American hype flop in SMW will be Allan Green. All of them had much bigger mouths and hypes then their actual talents and boxing skills. Why do Americans boxers always hype themselves before they had proved something? –and why do American boxing fans always believe in their S*** talking? Lacy fooled almost the whole American boxing scene. Stick to the old school and keep you mouth shot until you are actually sure that you are world-class.
of all the forums in all the world.. he walked into mine.
he's looking at you kid.
:flush:
LMFAO ! A :coolclick: is in order ! Now that is a swift response time ! way to take out the trash !
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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I rarely say this type of thing but you are 100% bona fida asshole,and even though I don't mind Kessler,I hope he gets KTFO by LACY so you can shut the F up.
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In yours dreams asshole,Lacy will get his ass kicked by Kessler
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
I think Green will turn out to be a better fghter than Lacy. Who dosn't seem to want to fight any more.
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by play it again sam
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
??? Pointless thread, whats wrong with jeff lacy anyway? He didn't change just because he lost to Calzaghe, its just that Joe had the style, determination and most importantly prepared better than Jeff. On another night Jeff could have landed the punch to wobble Calzaghe. Just coz he lost, it doesn't mean he ain't the guy that destroyed Reid, Sheika, Pemberton etc. and it doesn't mean he isn't better OR worse than Allan Green. And just cos Allan Green had one rough night it doesn't mean he's the next Jeff Lacy.... I hate fickle fans who will write off a fighter because they have a rougher night than usual. Do you never have a bad day at work/school?
First Lacy then Mack and the next American hype flop in SMW will be Allan Green. All of them had much bigger mouths and hypes then their actual talents and boxing skills. Why do Americans boxers always hype themselves before they had proved something? –and why do American boxing fans always believe in their S*** talking? Lacy fooled almost the whole American boxing scene. Stick to the old school and keep you mouth shot until you are actually sure that you are world-class.
are you world class?....no
are u crazy...yes
the whole point in calzaghe bieng as big as he is at this moment was not because lacy couldnt live upto his hype it was becuase lacy was so good and he got beaten squarely.... hes still one of the most talented out there...
i hate it when people diss a fighter who might have lost and for agood reason against another good fighter its gonna happen sometime deal with it, it makes them no less a great fighter, theyr jus not unbeaten anymore!!
I Think lacy will be back!
peace
Re: Allan Green = The Next Jeff Lacy
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by play it again sam
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
??? Pointless thread, whats wrong with jeff lacy anyway? He didn't change just because he lost to Calzaghe, its just that Joe had the style, determination and most importantly prepared better than Jeff. On another night Jeff could have landed the punch to wobble Calzaghe. Just coz he lost, it doesn't mean he ain't the guy that destroyed Reid, Sheika, Pemberton etc. and it doesn't mean he isn't better OR worse than Allan Green. And just cos Allan Green had one rough night it doesn't mean he's the next Jeff Lacy.... I hate fickle fans who will write off a fighter because they have a rougher night than usual. Do you never have a bad day at work/school?
First Lacy then Mack and the next American hype flop in SMW will be Allan Green. All of them had much bigger mouths and hypes then their actual talents and boxing skills. Why do Americans boxers always hype themselves before they had proved something? –and why do American boxing fans always believe in their S*** talking? Lacy fooled almost the whole American boxing scene. Stick to the old school and keep you mouth shot until you are actually sure that you are world-class.
First off I'm from the UK so can all that uncle sam BS, and 2nd off, Lacy ain't fooled no one, how do you know he ain't world class, have you stood from a perfectly landed right cross from him?
what the fuck?
u world class? hell no u won world titles? hell no
u rich beyond your dreams right now? sh*t no..
then shut up fool..
haters... jus respect the man for bien a great athlete