Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Personally, I was thinking they would call it a draw. I'm happy with the outcome. James Toney is yesterday's news and to have him win this fight would allow him to string out a half-hearted heavyweight carrer. I think Oleg Maskaev loses to either man, but Peter has a future ahead of him and Toney doesn't.
To me it only seems like a robbery because of the huge point spread (and because Sam Peter sprinted to the dressing room). If they had Peter winning by slimmer margin I don't see a reason to complain at all.
HOO-RAH!
Completely agree with your 2nd statement. It think its the 5 point differental that makes it look bad.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
If anything, including the deduction from Peter, it should have been 116-111 for Toney.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
If anything, including the deduction from Peter, it should have been 116-111 for Toney.
I guess in the end I'll just cherish the sight of Toney hanging on to the rope to keep from falling down....
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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If anything, including the deduction from Peter, it should have been 116-111 for Toney.
I guess in the end I'll just cherish the sight of Toney hanging on to the rope to keep from falling down....
Yes, just one time while Peter ate jabs like popcorn all night.
I'd like to see the Compubox numbers? Strange that they never showed them.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
Yes, just one time while Peter ate jabs like popcorn all night.
Doc Good
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Yeah... I saw. I was on the edge of my seat.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
Agreed. Toney took the power well. But, boy, did he feel it!!
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
No one remembers that Toney used to always do that and that 3 of those 4 right hands landed on Toney's shoulder.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
No one remembers that Toney used to always do that and that 3 of those 4 right hands landed on Toney's shoulder.
Holy shit.
That's denial.
Toney was hurt & Peter did it. Toney used to do that? Please. Toney took more punches than he ever has & from one of the most technically limited fighters of the heavyweight division.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
No one remembers that Toney used to always do that and that 3 of those 4 right hands landed on Toney's shoulder.
Holy shit.
That's denial.
Toney was hurt & Peter did it. Toney used to do that? Please. Toney took more punches than he ever has & from one of the most technically limited fighters of the heavyweight division.
Reggie Johnson, Roy Jones Jr, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin and Vassiliy Jirov hit Toney a lot more then Peter did, even Rahman hit him more.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
No one remembers that Toney used to always do that and that 3 of those 4 right hands landed on Toney's shoulder.
Holy S***.
That's denial.
Toney was hurt & Peter did it. Toney used to do that? Please. Toney took more punches than he ever has & from one of the most technically limited fighters of the heavyweight division.
Reggie Johnson, Roy Jones Jr, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin and Vassiliy Jirov hit Toney a lot more then Peter did, even Rahman hit him more.
Those men (outside of Rahman) were not heavyweights. I am not talking about ancient history...I'm talking about the heavyweight division.
No one has hurt Toney like that at 200+.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
Those men (outside of Rahman) were not heavyweights. I am not talking about ancient history...I'm talking about the heavyweight division.
No one has hurt Toney like that at 200+.
Wack Job
Dreams really do come true, Wack. ;D CC
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
You saw Toney hurting Peter to the body and staggering him something I never thought I'd see. Peter knows just as well as Toney does that if they rematch each other that Toney could and would knock him out by tko. he COULD have done it tonight
What's funny is that no one's really talking about Peter staggering & hurting Toney in 4 rounds. No one's talking about Toney holding the ropes because Peter battered him & was close to putting him down... ::**
No one remembers that Toney used to always do that and that 3 of those 4 right hands landed on Toney's shoulder.
Holy S***.
That's denial.
Toney was hurt & Peter did it. Toney used to do that? Please. Toney took more punches than he ever has & from one of the most technically limited fighters of the heavyweight division.
Reggie Johnson, Roy Jones Jr, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin and Vassiliy Jirov hit Toney a lot more then Peter did, even Rahman hit him more.
Those men (outside of Rahman) were not heavyweights. I am not talking about ancient history...I'm talking about the heavyweight division.
No one has hurt Toney like that at 200+.
Agreed. But Peter didn't finish him did he? ;)
I think its good that you credit Peter for performing better then you thought he would, but lets face it, so did Toney
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
I think its good that you credit Peter for performing better then you thought he would, but lets face it, so did Toney
See below....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Sam Peter (27 fights with 26 wins & 22 ko's & 1 loss) vs James Toney (77 fights with 69 wins, 4 losses, 3 draws, & 43 ko's) Round 12: TOney jabbing to start. Left hook from Toney. Big right hand from Peter. Nice. Left hook from Toney. RIght hand by Toney. Jab by Toney. BOdy shot by Peter. RIght hand by Peter. Right hand by Toney. Peter jabs. Right ahnd & a left by Toney. Peter jabs. Combo from TOney by misses. Jab by TOney. right hand by Toney. Peter eats a jab. Jab from Peter & then a right. BOdy shot from Peter. 1-2-3 from Peter. RIght lands. Peter jabs & then rips Toney tot he b ody. Peter coming on...but it's too little too late. Toney fires the right but Peter lands the left. Jab from Peter & an attempt with the right & that's the bell.
Toney by SD.
Lots of close rounds though.
I am impressed with both men...honestly. Peter gained a lot in this fight.
Gave them both respect.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Peter wins it.
Honestly...that was a close fight...but honestly...I had it for Toney.
Good fight...questionable decision...but not a robbery.
Again...close fight...coulda gone either way. I just don't see it as a robbery.
