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Not true. Nobody gave Peter a shot in hell on this forum really...that includes me. I gave them both credit...but Peter get's more because, lets be real, he's limited as hell & he was fighting the most gifted fighter of 200 or 233 or whatever...Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
It was a good fight...but Toney did what I expected...Peter did just the opposite of what I was expecting.
Yes I was very suprised with Peter's performance. It looks as if he actually learned a little, and had the sense to use some strategy. It was a very entertaining fight and I think Peter edged it. He did hurt Toney several times, and he wasn't embarrasingly outboxed as I expected. He actually threw bodyshots and used his jab, even a couple of combinations. Peter is much improved, and Toney is a frickin beast. He took and gave some very very hard shots. Great fight, didn't agree with the scoring being so lopsided, but I enjoyed it and it went to the actual winner in my opinion.
What a hater you are bein man. Jesus... I'd expect more outta ya, but I shoulda learned by now. I like both guys and was kinda rootin for Peter for a wihle, but James took his best shots, unlike Wladimir Klit, and came back and certainly should have won the fight. It was close, but with the point deduction it was very very clear James had won the fight. Unbelievable that anyone can agree with this decision or try to down play it. It was fucked, period. >:madQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Glad to disappoint you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Can't wait for a Spinks Mayorga rematch so that I can watch Mayorga lose again. There's some hate for you...since you like to throw that word around so much. :Moon: :P
Hulk get mad.
As I said Peter lost because he was too heavy and got tired. It was all Toney. Poor Peter my grand ma fights better.
Yeah...Mayorga was actually robbed in that fight even worse than Toney was tonight. But that's another story, Spinks is the ultimate fraud. Really if you truly didn't think this was a robbery, then you have absolutely NOTHING to bitch about concernin the Winky vs Taylor fight. Nada, zip, nothin. In fact you should applaud it, it was a close fight and Winky should stop whining. Taylor won it fair and square. :o ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
HW division is fun. Despite the decision it was a fun fight.
Maskaev vs Peter. Real heavy hitting fun.
Peter must be too green to win over Maskaev. I mean Maskaev is durable and can hit and has amaour experience.
So that means that he won the Fight. That is probably more of an argument of exacly why he shouldn't win the fight. If I had raced Carl Lewis in his prime and gotten closer than anyone to beating him and even led the race at times that still doesn't mean I actually won it, lmao. Nobody is gonna say "Yeah that guy shoulda won the race...I've never seen anyone keep up with Carl like that". Sad..just sad... For all who see this, THIS kind of statement just shows what boxing is these days when you have a a Middleweight getting robbed at heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I personaly wanted Peter to Win but not like this. Toney did an incredible fight and daamn great chin.
It was clear that the judges where haters, clear as that.
But I do pick Peter over Makaev and then re-match between Vlad or toney
If you think the Below statements are true than I guess Peter won the fight
-Peter won 75% of the rounds versus James Toney
-Jabs don't really count in scoring
-Sam Peter did better than expected so he clearly won just based on that fact
-Being aggressive and missing is better than landing effective punches
-Tony only won 3 rounds the entire fight
-Peter absolutely dominated James tonight winning 9 rounds
All that would pretty much have to be true in the Judges eyes for Peter to have won like he did. I was a huge Sam Peter fan but it's just something about a cheap win that makes me wonder about skill and potential.
I saw the fight w people new to boxing. They were impressed by Toney and thought the young guy Peter was hopeless. They could not belive the judges.
Judges were bought off. Wacko is a hater. It's that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
p4p great in the ring and p4p great in argument Jack Johnson!!! ;D :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by JackJohnsonGhost
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
I agree with you there Waco...Tough fight to judge...Toney did outbox Peters a lot but Peters did hurt Toney many times...More than Toney wanted to admit...He moved James whole body at times...Then again Toney did frustrate Peters making him look amatuerish...Hoping for the big shot to end it...James tatooed Peters with slick jabs...Very hard to score...Agressor or technician?
Just watched the fight and scored each round myself.
I thought it was a good fight, 2 top guys actually fighting each other and I thought they both deserved some credit for that. I wouldn't have thought that it was a crossroads fight, the loser would still have somewhere to go.
Unbelievably, I had the fight 116-116, but had Toney the winner because of the point deduction in the 9th. Some comments:
- tough fight to score, and i don't think it would have been a robbery of it had gone either way
- Good referee, did a good job all the way through. Liked him swearing at the fighters "Don't fuck around.. don't play fucking games either of you"
- Toney showed that he is a true heavyweight, took some big shots. Like Peter said "he's a rock" Fantastic jab, great technique, very elusive. Thought he threw a lot of sneaky stuff inside that idiot judges tend to miss. I did think he outhustled Peter.
- Peter showed good stamina, very heavy shots and used his weight well. Toney couldn't hurt him. He was a bit limited and does plod forward in a predictable way?
- bizarre post fight comments form Peter about the Pharaoh of Egypt?
- Toney's funny - "ugly and busted up like Larry Holmes" Haha. He is definitely slurring though!!
Do you know what the fight reminded me of? ......... a dream matchup between Sonny Liston and Jack Johnson !!!!