Debate: MAYWEATHER or PACQUIAO NO.1?

After Pacman beat Morales with his awesome speed and strength, my vote is on Pacman. Isnt it Pac also beat the hell out of those 3 boxers who beat him on rematches?

PBF without a doubt!...1st.Pacman lunges with his punches...he is often off balance....he bounces as oppose to sliding and stepping!What holes can you spot in PBF's game?As for Winky he can box and has good defense BUT he throws pitty pat punches and he stands flat footed at times...
Speed-PBF-Pac tie
Ring Awareness-PBF
combinations-PBF
Defense-PBF-Winky tie
Stamina-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was BORN into the sport
Power-maybe Pac...?

After knocking out taller and bigger Jorge Solis this year, I think Pac is leading the p4p race.

If PBF wins convincingly afainst ODLH, then PBF and Pac will tie in first place.

pacman, any weight.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

PBF without a doubt!...1st.Pacman lunges with his punches...he is often off balance....he bounces as oppose to sliding and stepping!What holes can you spot in PBF's game?As for Winky he can box and has good defense BUT he throws pitty pat punches and he stands flat footed at times...
Speed-PBF-Pac tie
Ring Awareness-PBF
combinations-PBF
Defense-PBF-Winky tie
Stamina-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was BORN into the sport
Power-maybe Pac...?

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sorry man but that list of yours doesn't mean squat! ;) pound for pound means if they were at any given weight would they beat the rest of the division.

In the 1988 Mike Tyson wasn't the fastest, didn't have the best ring awareness, didn't have the best combinations or defense, wasn't the fittest and didn't have the most experience but you could have put Iron Mike in any division and he would have cleaned house.

Floyd looks the part and I belive he has done enough to earn the spot but only because he is a multi division champion, not because he looks pretty against lesser opponents.

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

PBF without a doubt!...1st.Pacman lunges with his punches...he is often off balance....he bounces as oppose to sliding and stepping!What holes can you spot in PBF's game?As for Winky he can box and has good defense BUT he throws pitty pat punches and he stands flat footed at times...
Speed-PBF-Pac tie
Ring Awareness-PBF
combinations-PBF
Defense-PBF-Winky tie
Stamina-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was BORN into the sport
Power-maybe Pac...?

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sorry man but that list of yours doesn't mean squat! ;) pound for pound means if they were at any given weight would they beat the rest of the division.

In the 1988 Mike Tyson wasn't the fastest, didn't have the best ring awareness, didn't have the best combinations or defense, wasn't the fittest and didn't have the most experience but you could have put Iron Mike in any division and he would have cleaned house.

Floyd looks the part and I belive he has done enough to earn the spot but only because he is a multi division champion, not because he looks pretty against lesser opponents.

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Floyd has looked good against just about All of his opponents....its only after he beats them that they become "bums".
Corley,Corrales,JLC,Hernandez,Baldo....all IMO were good fighters.Floyd would beat Pac plain and simple.Pac has a loss in his prime...Floyd doesnt.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

PBF without a doubt!...1st.Pacman lunges with his punches...he is often off balance....he bounces as oppose to sliding and stepping!What holes can you spot in PBF's game?As for Winky he can box and has good defense BUT he throws pitty pat punches and he stands flat footed at times...
Speed-PBF-Pac tie
Ring Awareness-PBF
combinations-PBF
Defense-PBF-Winky tie
Stamina-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was BORN into the sport
Power-maybe Pac...?

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sorry man but that list of yours doesn't mean squat! ;) pound for pound means if they were at any given weight would they beat the rest of the division.

In 1988 Mike Tyson wasn't the fastest, didn't have the best ring awareness, didn't have the best combinations or defense, wasn't the fittest and didn't have the most experience but you could have put Iron Mike in any division and he would have cleaned house.

Floyd looks the part and I belive he has done enough to earn the spot but only because he is a multi division champion, not because he looks pretty against lesser opponents.

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Floyd has looked good against just about All of his opponents....its only after he beats them that they become "bums".
Corley,Corrales,JLC,Hernandez,Baldo....all IMO were good fighters.Floyd would beat Pac plain and simple.Pac has a loss in his prime...Floyd doesnt.

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Pac gets his 1st title the WBC Flyweight, skips 2 divisions to pick up the IBF/WBO Super Bantamweight titles, moves up another divsion and picks up the IBF/WBA Featherweight titles bla bla bla...

THEN... FOUR & FIVE DIVISIONS higher than his 1st title weight faces Marco Barrera, Juan Marquez, and Eric Morales.

Compared to these 3 all Floyd's Welterweight opponents are bums! ;)

Fraud Gayweather is overrated, overranked, overhyped, and untested.

He's been ducking Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margorito, and even his fellow overrated fighter.. Hatton.

Pac meanwhile has been fighting best of the best. He dropped his taller/bigger opponent lately.

I'm not hatin' y'all. Just stating the truth and being objective.

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

PBF without a doubt!...1st.Pacman lunges with his punches...he is often off balance....he bounces as oppose to sliding and stepping!What holes can you spot in PBF's game?As for Winky he can box and has good defense BUT he throws pitty pat punches and he stands flat footed at times...
Speed-PBF-Pac tie
Ring Awareness-PBF
combinations-PBF
Defense-PBF-Winky tie
Stamina-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was BORN into the sport
Power-maybe Pac...?

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sorry man but that list of yours doesn't mean squat! ;) pound for pound means if they were at any given weight would they beat the rest of the division.

In the 1988 Mike Tyson wasn't the fastest, didn't have the best ring awareness, didn't have the best combinations or defense, wasn't the fittest and didn't have the most experience but you could have put Iron Mike in any division and he would have cleaned house.

Floyd looks the part and I belive he has done enough to earn the spot but only because he is a multi division champion, not because he looks pretty against lesser opponents.

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+207 :coolclick:

Mayweather is easily P4P number 1 after his win over Oscar. Pac is at2-4 imo as Rafa Marquez and B Hop hav been doing more.

i got bhop #1 again, forget pac floyd and winky BHOP IS THE TRUTH 42 AND GOING STRONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

B-Hop cannot be #1. He has to prove more. Defeating Winky means little.winky is not the P4P best.