i'm tired of hearing about margarito

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

i know i ain't read that cotto can beat PBF.

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WOAH....sorry may be a bit slow but how long you been back for? ;D

What would make me happy is to see the winner of Mayweather vs Baldomir against Margarito for another unification bout. O0

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

So if you are not 'most people' then what are you saying?

you thought those two fighters would beat Margarito? no you... you said most people... so it is entirely relevant. You are saying that the opinion of a lot of people prooves he has fought people good enough to beat him... I am showing you how wrong ' a lot of people' can be.

and no... Joe C. put on a brilliant performance... but jeff Lacy just wasn't in his League... he was hyped past his ability.

he deserves some credit... but it's not enough for him to call out Winky Wright and Floyd Mayweather and then accuse them of ducking him... simply because they don't have time for him... he is not in their class and has not fought enough people near their class to deserve a shot at them... that is why he is trying to talk his way up to them... he's ducking me... bla bla bla... Is he ducking Ishe Smith? ::**

He doesn't hit as hard as Zab judah... He doesn't hit as quickly as Zab... He doesn't move as well... His work is cluttered... he is consently to close and hits out of range... his shots are wider than Zab's... Zab was midely dangerous for 4 rounds... Margarito wouldn't even be for that long.

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Your points lose relevance when you attempt to use Zab as a measuring stick. Zab has lost 4 of his 6 matches. Zab is also faster,more skilled,etc etc blah blah than Baldo,what happened there? and to say he does not hit as hard as Zab...how do you know? Margarito is a NATURAL WW. You've seen the difference in power between a blown up WW(Hatton/Gatti) and a natural WW(Collazo/Baldo). Also to base boxing purely on he does not move as well,he is cluttered etc etc....Margarito is stronger,bigger,throws more,has a better chin,hits as hard if not harder than Zab,can cut off the ring,jab,work the body,switch hit effectively etc etc.

Alot of great Mexican fighters did not have the basics on lockdown but there are other attributes which make a great fighter.Meldrick Taylor was infinitely faster and more skilled than Chavez etc etc. Heck look at your criticisms,alot of those can apply to Manny Pacquiao too except for the wide shots(and I don't believe you have seen enough of Margarito if you believe that he cannot throw straight shots).

As for your point about caling out,everyone deserves a shot to move up,if that did not happen,boxing would become stagnant. Like I said,he has beaten all those put in fron of him at WW,beaten more top 10 fighters than anyone else and still needs to do more and should not be calling people out?! How did Hatton get his shot at Tszyu? What did he do? How did Juarez get his shot? What did he do? I could go on all night..

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im sorry, beaten more top 10 fighters than anyone else.... He's never fought anyone who had any business being top 10... If one of the bums happened to be for some reason, and I can only imagine maybe Cintron, then they shouldn't have been.. simple as that... And enough about your crap... Why can't he use Zab as a measuring stick... He's lost 4 of 6, ok, but he's fought 4 great fighters, Margarito's never done anything close...And there's a little more to boxing than just a fighters record, some people actually use their eyes to asses a fighters skills.

yeah, I sort of gave up trying to speak to him after that... ;)

I'll just wait for Margarito to either fade away after loosing to a fighter of similar class, or talk his way to a big fight and be schooled.

If (we are talking Buster Douglas IF here) he did anything like beating Floyd of Winky then I would eat humble pie but that will not happen.

hatton didn't get his shot at Tyszu by calling out opponents out of his class and accusing them of ducking him when they ignored him.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

yeah, I sort of gave up trying to speak to him after that... ;)

I'll just wait for Margarito to either fade away after loosing to a fighter of similar class, or talk his way to a big fight and be schooled.

If (we are talking Buster Douglas IF here) he did anything like beating Floyd of Winky then I would eat humble pie but that will not happen.

hatton didn't get his shot at Tyszu by calling out opponents out of his class and accusing them of ducking him when they ignored him.

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Margarito beating either of those two would be a far bigger upset than Douglas-Tyson, Buster actually had some talent.

I was tired of hearing all that margarito talk too, but it's finally cooled down since all that "Fraud mayweather" crap talk that was floating around. There are some HUGE margarito promoters here...i am dreading what will happen when/if margarito beats clottey..even if he does still doesn't give him the right to shine floyds shoes! Maybe 1-2 wins after that against very good opposition but he's got to earn his way up and PBF ain't afraid of him.

If I called out pbf and he said no well I guess I could run around saying he's ducking me, but that aint true! And that is just what margarito, etc did. I didn't have much of an opinion about margarito, but after all that and all the people spreading that LIES AND PROPAGANDA it made me dislike him.

What I am dreading is that Mosley is gonna turn old any fight now... if he does when/if he fights Margarito then we will see a 'Legend killer' Moment similar to Tarver-Jones II... if not from Margarito then from his fan(boys)s.

With Mosley though his strength advantage is gone and he's not all that fast really, would come down to skill... Wouldn't expect him to win but if Mosley starts to slide he might

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Originally Posted by Snakey

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

i know i ain't read that cotto can beat PBF.

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WOAH....sorry may be a bit slow but how long you been back for? ;D

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i came back thursday

El Gamo... name me 3 top 10 fighters Margarito has beaten. And I mean top 10 in ALL organizations not just WBO ::**

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Originally Posted by Starr

El Gamo... name me 3 top 10 fighters Margarito has beaten. And I mean top 10 in ALL organizations not just WBO ::**

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If your ranked by 1 organisation,it is highly unlikely that you will be ranked by the other 2 as well...... ::** ???

if you are not a legit top 10 fighter...No one else ranks the WBO's number 10 etc any where for a reason.

Do you think there isn't a worth while belt that Floyd or any of the real top 5 isn't ranked by?