Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by means2184
i cant think of any heavyweight comparable to Ali
dont forget ernie terrel was 6'5 when Ali beat him ...aside from that you did point out some interesting similiaritys!
definately no heavyweight that can compare to ali
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
I always root for Wlad, but One big difference, Wlad has yet to become heavyweight champion. Maybe it would be more comparible if back in 1964 when ALi beat liston, it was only for the WBA belt.
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Liston kept his IBF belt because Ali did not pay the sanctioning fee
The WBC belt was held by Floyd Patterson
The WBO belt was held by Henery Cooper, but he only defended it in Europe.
It was nothing like that. Ali was the universial heavyweight champion, not Jose Sulliman's heavyweight champion: there championship runs are incomparible.
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
wladimir would have never lost to
leon spink
ken norton
joe fraizrer
larry holmen
even ray mercer would crushed these fighter at a old age
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
I always root for Wlad, but One big difference, Wlad has yet to become heavyweight champion. Maybe it would be more comparible if back in 1964 when ALi beat liston, it was only for the WBA belt.
and
Liston kept his IBF belt because Ali did not pay the sanctioning fee
The WBC belt was held by Floyd Patterson
The WBO belt was held by Henery Cooper, but he only defended it in Europe.
It was nothing like that. Ali was the universial heavyweight champion, not Jose Sulliman's heavyweight champion: there championship runs are incomparible.
vlad is the world heavyweight champion...IBF I think.. but he definately champ!
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Originally Posted by hottestfighter
wladimir would have never lost to
leon spink
ken norton
joe fraizrer
larry holmen
even ray mercer would crushed these fighter at a old age
vlad would have probably lost to most of these fighters if not all of them even at the peak of his career...
i dont see how he measures up to ali in any way...
to be honest with the exception of the chris byrd fight i dont even think he measures up to his brother!!!!
peace
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by hottestfighter
wladimir would have never lost to
leon spink
ken norton
joe fraizrer
larry holmen
even ray mercer would crushed these fighter at a old age
and plus ali was far beyond prime when he fought some of these guys!!
peace
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
I always root for Wlad, but One big difference, Wlad has yet to become heavyweight champion. Maybe it would be more comparible if back in 1964 when ALi beat liston, it was only for the WBA belt.
and
Liston kept his IBF belt because Ali did not pay the sanctioning fee
The WBC belt was held by Floyd Patterson
The WBO belt was held by Henery Cooper, but he only defended it in Europe.
It was nothing like that. Ali was the universial heavyweight champion, not Jose Sulliman's heavyweight champion: there championship runs are incomparible.
vlad is the world heavyweight champion...IBF I think.. but he definately champ!
My point was- does the alphabet championship Wlad have compare the world championship Ali had?
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
I always root for Wlad, but One big difference, Wlad has yet to become heavyweight champion. Maybe it would be more comparible if back in 1964 when ALi beat liston, it was only for the WBA belt.
and
Liston kept his IBF belt because Ali did not pay the sanctioning fee
The WBC belt was held by Floyd Patterson
The WBO belt was held by Henery Cooper, but he only defended it in Europe.
It was nothing like that. Ali was the universial heavyweight champion, not Jose Sulliman's heavyweight champion: there championship runs are incomparible.
vlad is the world heavyweight champion...IBF I think.. but he definately champ!
My point was- does the alphabet championship Wlad have compare the world championship Ali had?
and when you explain what you meant!!!!........
my answer is no!! ;)
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
Starting this thread is the reason that organizations around the world drug test their employee's
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thank you, I feel much better know. :)
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Starting this thread is the reason that organizations around the world drug test their employee's
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Good point, I feel stupider for even getting batted into this argument.
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
THESE ARE THE REASON WHY WLAD LOST HIS FIGHTS
WLAD LOST TO ROSS PURITY BEFORE BECOMING WORLD CHAMPION, WLAD WAS VERY YOUNG AND HAD LACK OF EXPERINCE.
CORRIE SANDERS WAS UNDERESTIMATED BY WLAD AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN DRUGGED BEFORE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HIS BODY SEEMED IN VERY BAD CONDITION. THE FACT IS LAMON BREWSTER WAS GETTING KILLED BY WLADIMIR UNTIL THE LAST 20 SECONDS OF THE WHOLE FIGHT. DOCTOR WLAD DISCOVER HE WAS POISONED
THE MAIN REASON WHY WLAD LOST SOME FIGHT WAS BECAUSE HIS OLDER BROTHER WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND REPRESENTED THE KLITSCHKO NAME. ONE OF THE BROTHER TOOK IT EASY AND THAT WAS WLADIMIR.
THINK ABOUT IT WHEN VITALI LOST A FIGHT WLADIMIR WOULD GET REVENGE BY BEATING THAT SAME FIGHT, THESE WERE THE ONLY TIME WHEN WLAD TOOK FIGHT SERIOUS
NOW WLAD TAKE ALL FIGHT SERIOUS SINCE HIS BROTHER RETIRED BECAUSE WLAD NOW REPRESENT THE NAME OF THE KLITSCHKO ............................WLADIMIR WILL NEVER EVER LOSE FROM THIS DAY ON.
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by RONNIE
THESE ARE THE REASON WHY WLAD LOST HIS FIGHTS
WLAD LOST TO ROSS PURITY BEFORE BECOMING WORLD CHAMPION, WLAD WAS VERY YOUNG AND HAD LACK OF EXPERINCE.
CORRIE SANDERS WAS UNDERESTIMATED BY WLAD AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN DRUGGED BEFORE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HIS BODY SEEMED IN VERY BAD CONDITION. THE FACT IS LAMON BREWSTER WAS GETTING KILLED BY WLADIMIR UNTIL THE LAST 20 SECONDS OF THE WHOLE FIGHT. DOCTOR WLAD DISCOVER HE WAS POISONED
THE MAIN REASON WHY WLAD LOST SOME FIGHT WAS BECAUSE HIS OLDER BROTHER WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND REPRESENTED THE KLITSCHKO NAME. ONE OF THE BROTHER TOOK IT EASY AND THAT WAS WLADIMIR.
THINK ABOUT IT WHEN VITALI LOST A FIGHT WLADIMIR WOULD GET REVENGE BY BEATING THAT SAME FIGHT, THESE WERE THE ONLY TIME WHEN WLAD TOOK FIGHT SERIOUS
NOW WLAD TAKE ALL FIGHT SERIOUS SINCE HIS BROTHER RETIRED BECAUSE WLAD NOW REPRESENT THE NAME OF THE KLITSCHKO ............................WLADIMIR WILL NEVER EVER LOSE FROM THIS DAY ON.
It's funny how you alter reality, makes it easier to sleep at night I guess.
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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Originally Posted by RONNIE
THESE ARE THE REASON WHY WLAD LOST HIS FIGHTS
WLAD LOST TO ROSS PURITY BEFORE BECOMING WORLD CHAMPION, WLAD WAS VERY YOUNG AND HAD LACK OF EXPERINCE.
CORRIE SANDERS WAS UNDERESTIMATED BY WLAD AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN DRUGGED BEFORE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HIS BODY SEEMED IN VERY BAD CONDITION. THE FACT IS LAMON BREWSTER WAS GETTING KILLED BY WLADIMIR UNTIL THE LAST 20 SECONDS OF THE WHOLE FIGHT. DOCTOR WLAD DISCOVER HE WAS POISONED
THE MAIN REASON WHY WLAD LOST SOME FIGHT WAS BECAUSE HIS OLDER BROTHER WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND REPRESENTED THE KLITSCHKO NAME. ONE OF THE BROTHER TOOK IT EASY AND THAT WAS WLADIMIR.
THINK ABOUT IT WHEN VITALI LOST A FIGHT WLADIMIR WOULD GET REVENGE BY BEATING THAT SAME FIGHT, THESE WERE THE ONLY TIME WHEN WLAD TOOK FIGHT SERIOUS
NOW WLAD TAKE ALL FIGHT SERIOUS SINCE HIS BROTHER RETIRED BECAUSE WLAD NOW REPRESENT THE NAME OF THE KLITSCHKO ............................WLADIMIR WILL NEVER EVER LOSE FROM THIS DAY ON.
Let me guess...Zab Judah's your second favorite fighter right?
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
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CORRIE SANDERS WAS UNDERESTIMATED BY WLAD AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN DRUGGED BEFORE THE FIGHT BECAUSE HIS BODY SEEMED IN VERY BAD CONDITION
sounds like an excuse to me!! ;)
i mean if he was so great.. then he would care about fighting and take all his fights seriously, and what proof is there that he was drugged?
the lack of experiance aswell i no excuse just a bad pick, picked the wrong fight and payed for it still a loss and his own fault!!
and why would he want to live of his brothers rep? think thats a bit lame if you ask me......
think vlad might lose at the hands of the boxing banker!! at least i hope so!! ;)
peace
Re: Is WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO the next MUHAMMAD ALI
I agree Vitality is much tougher than wlad but wlad can still be the greatest sport because vitaly retired to early
Wlad has already crushed the best american fighter chris byrd,
now calvin is suppose be the best usa fight
again the russian is going to crush the usa
