Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
IMO after destroying Lacy, Calzaghe deserves ALL the respect he gets. The only part I don't like is when he runs his mouth about taking over the states. 1 very good performance doesnt quite do it.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
IMO after destroying Lacy, Calzaghe deserves ALL the respect he gets. The only part I don't like is when he runs his mouth about taking over the states. 1 very good performance doesnt quite do it.
1 very good performance against a exciting prospect-thats all Lacy was. If Calzaghe would call out some guys like Bhop, RJJ, Tarver and actually MEAN it then I would give him more respect. But here's a guy just content to not fight anyone above a B level his whole career and he will retire that way.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
WOuldnt be suprised if talks "fall through" with Wright either. Calzaghe would have such a size advantage in that fight but I still think he's scared to fight someone of Winkys capabilites.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
I mean let's take for example B-hop I know that half of boxing fans said that Tito Will KO him because he was a nobody, who exactly did B-hop won a fight to be recognize before TITO of course other than that he lost to RJJ and of course after that he was a nobody an then became champion with no name.( recognition) For that reason I cannot count Joe C out.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division...and lost to absolutely noone!! If he knocked out catwoman and superman at the same time, the haters would still come out in floods saying "well technically superman isnt even a human being, and well uh, catwoman is like erm a dudette". Joe C can beat anybody willing to go to super middleweight and challenge him.
I love BHop but is it any coincidence he went to face Tarver and skip super middleweight entirely? I think not ;)
Please, excuse my Catwoman/ superman analogy folks. Im a little stressed today! :)
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
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Originally Posted by miles
Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division...and lost to absolutely noone!! If he knocked out catwoman and superman at the same time, the haters would still come out in floods saying "well technically superman isnt even a human being, and well uh, catwoman is like erm a dudette". Joe C can beat anybody willing to go to super middleweight and challenge him.
I love BHop but is it any coincidence he went to face Tarver and skip super middleweight entirely? I think not ;)
Please, excuse my Catwoman/ superman analogy folks. Im a little stressed today! :)
I can see your stressed by this really bad post. The line "Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division" is still making me laugh. This clown always talks about how he wants to take over America, but yet never comes. He refused to go into Germany and face Sven Ottke when he had the chance. Kessler called him out after his Lacy win, but got no response. He's been saying he wants Jones, Hopkins, Tarver for some time. Yet he keeps his ass home. Like he's a bigger name than. His boy Hatton brought his ass to the US. And that was to fight Luis Collazo! Calzaghe should be a fuckin shame of himself. Hatton comes to the US to face Collazo. Who is no big name. But Joe won't come for Jones or Hopkins. Yet, you say he's beaten everybody worth beating. Unbelievable!
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It was not a huge win by any means. It was an impressive performance in that he dominated a guy most people figured would beat him. In retrospect, Lacy was not nearly as good as Showtime made him out to be. Wright's domination of Trinidad was twice as impressive because Trinidad has an impressive history. Lacy's biggest win was Scott Pemberton/Omar Sheika/Robin Reid. Take your pick. None of them are great wins. Calzaghe and his fans can't go a day without mentioning the Lacy shut-out as though it even ranks up there with Mayweather's domination of Gatti. Newsflash: it doesn't. Fight the winner of Kessler-Beyer, who, without a doubt, will be a more proven fighter than Lacy was.
Kessler KO Beyer in 7 round
Hillarious. You people kill me with this bullshit.
You all find it so easy to overlook all the other men that Calzaghe destroyed with ease...you all find it so easy to overlook the fact that he's beaten better men than Kessler...Lacy...or anyone else at 168lbs.
Deal. Calzaghe is a worthy champion...a brilliant boxer...& a respectful fighter. Just because some of you have your noses poked in some dark places that they shouldn't be...doesn't mean Joe isn't worth the praise.
Lacy was the best at 168lbs
Maybe in terms of strength and power. But in terms of all around boxing skill and dimensions I will rank Mundine ahead of Lacy anyday.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
I give Calzaghe his credit for beating Lacy the way he did. But we all know that he has virtually a nameless resume. He doesn't have to stay at SMW and all of the greats move around in weight, unless they're HW. But I will say that if Calzaghe does ever take on a future hall of famer he will show people that he is every bit worthy of being on the p4p list. The boy is nice no matter if you want to accept it or not. But he gives cynics fuel because he doesn't take the fights that he should be taking. He isn't getting any younger. And as far as the Lacy fight and these so called experts. The real experts, Lacy's sparring partners, knew it was trouble for Lacy. My homie, Antwan Echols who gave B-Hop a nice first fight, was Lacy's sparring partner and he told me Lacy couldn't even do anything with him let alone Calzaghe. Even Wright had his concerns and said that Lacy needs to learn how to box. I was one of those people that thought Lacy would win handily and I thought Echols was punch drunk when he put $2500 on Calzaghe. But I've never seen Lacy in the gym so I was ignorant to his weaknesses. Actually I was mesmerized by his power and of course the hype. I remember when Lacy was calling out B-Hop and I saw Lacy's inability to box in the Robin Reid fight I said this boy has no business in the ring with B-Hop. Yet, I once again was tricked into overlooking it for the Calzaghe fight.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
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Originally Posted by miles
Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division...and lost to absolutely noone!! If he knocked out catwoman and superman at the same time, the haters would still come out in floods saying "well technically superman isnt even a human being, and well uh, catwoman is like erm a dudette". Joe C can beat anybody willing to go to super middleweight and challenge him.
I love BHop but is it any coincidence he went to face Tarver and skip super middleweight entirely? I think not ;)
Please, excuse my Catwoman/ superman analogy folks. Im a little stressed today! :)
Patience Miles. No point in arguing with the haters. They were calling him a dodger before the Lacy fight, and saying he faked the injury against Ashira. Then he DEMOLISHED Lacy, which quietened them for a while, but now they've crawled out of their holes again.
There's no need to defend Calzaghe, he'll defend himself when he beats down Kessler next year.
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Originally Posted by miles
Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division...and lost to absolutely noone!! If he knocked out catwoman and superman at the same time, the haters would still come out in floods saying "well technically superman isnt even a human being, and well uh, catwoman is like erm a dudette". Joe C can beat anybody willing to go to super middleweight and challenge him.
I love BHop but is it any coincidence he went to face Tarver and skip super middleweight entirely? I think not ;)
Please, excuse my Catwoman/ superman analogy folks. Im a little stressed today! :)
Patience Miles. No point in arguing with the haters. They were calling him a dodger before the Lacy fight, and saying he faked the injury against Ashira. Then he DEMOLISHED Lacy, which quietened them for a while, but now they've crawled out of their holes again.
There's no need to defend Calzaghe, he'll defend himself when he beats down Kessler next year.
CC. someone talking sense at last!
Im glad i read this thread though, Some of the posts have had me in stitches, Really cheered me up today.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
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Originally Posted by Bomp
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Originally Posted by miles
Joe C has beaten anybody worth beating that would step into his division...and lost to absolutely noone!! If he knocked out catwoman and superman at the same time, the haters would still come out in floods saying "well technically superman isnt even a human being, and well uh, catwoman is like erm a dudette". Joe C can beat anybody willing to go to super middleweight and challenge him.
I love BHop but is it any coincidence he went to face Tarver and skip super middleweight entirely? I think not ;)
Please, excuse my Catwoman/ superman analogy folks. Im a little stressed today! :)
Patience Miles. No point in arguing with the haters. They were calling him a dodger before the Lacy fight, and saying he faked the injury against Ashira. Then he DEMOLISHED Lacy, which quietened them for a while, but now they've crawled out of their holes again.
There's no need to defend Calzaghe, he'll defend himself when he beats down Kessler next year.
CC, Its amazing how opinions can be so fickle in boxing. Before Lacy nobody gave him a chance in hell and he thoroughly whipped Lacy. Then of course revisionism sets in. If Calzaghe goes and beats Tarver its because Tarver is too old and Hopkins got there first. If he beats Winky then its because Winky was out of his weight range.
Always gonna be haters ready to sneer and bring it down instead of just saying well done or good job...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
It was not a huge win by any means. It was an impressive performance in that he dominated a guy most people figured would beat him. In retrospect, Lacy was not nearly as good as Showtime made him out to be. Wright's domination of Trinidad was twice as impressive because Trinidad has an impressive history. Lacy's biggest win was Scott Pemberton/Omar Sheika/Robin Reid. Take your pick. None of them are great wins. Calzaghe and his fans can't go a day without mentioning the Lacy shut-out as though it even ranks up there with Mayweather's domination of Gatti. Newsflash: it doesn't. Fight the winner of Kessler-Beyer, who, without a doubt, will be a more proven fighter than Lacy was.
Kessler KO Beyer in 7 round
Lacy was the best at 168lbs & he proved himself to be more durable than Kessler & fought better fighters than Kessler did in his first 20 or some odd fights.
Lacy was overexposed. He was never an elite fighter, he was just whored to us because the networks and Everlast thought he was going to be the "Next Tyson". JC beat a nobody, and now everyone's on his nuts
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
It was not a huge win by any means. It was an impressive performance in that he dominated a guy most people figured would beat him. In retrospect, Lacy was not nearly as good as Showtime made him out to be. Wright's domination of Trinidad was twice as impressive because Trinidad has an impressive history. Lacy's biggest win was Scott Pemberton/Omar Sheika/Robin Reid. Take your pick. None of them are great wins. Calzaghe and his fans can't go a day without mentioning the Lacy shut-out as though it even ranks up there with Mayweather's domination of Gatti. Newsflash: it doesn't. Fight the winner of Kessler-Beyer, who, without a doubt, will be a more proven fighter than Lacy was.
Kessler KO Beyer in 7 round
Lacy was the best at 168lbs & he proved himself to be more durable than Kessler & fought better fighters than Kessler did in his first 20 or some odd fights.
Lacy was overexposed. He was never an elite fighter, he was just whored to us because the networks and Everlast thought he was going to be the "Next Tyson". JC beat a nobody, and now everyone's on his nuts
I've never said this to anyone in a serious manner...said some pretty off the cuff things in humor...but in all seriousness: YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON.
Seriously...if this is all you can contribute to the forum...hate for Lacy...& mental images of Kessler's sack resting comfortably on your chin...I just don't see a use in your constant stupidity.
As a moderator...I apologize to my superiors & fellow members for that comment...but as a forum poster & member here...I stick to my guns.
You my friend are nothing more than a hater that is guided by blind stupidity. Lacy was a hell of a boxer...still can be...I want to hear you cry yourself to sleep everynight after Kess loses a fight...because he will.
No man is unbeatable...& not matter what you think: KESSLER ARE NOT KING OF 168LBS.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
It was not a huge win by any means. It was an impressive performance in that he dominated a guy most people figured would beat him. In retrospect, Lacy was not nearly as good as Showtime made him out to be. Wright's domination of Trinidad was twice as impressive because Trinidad has an impressive history. Lacy's biggest win was Scott Pemberton/Omar Sheika/Robin Reid. Take your pick. None of them are great wins. Calzaghe and his fans can't go a day without mentioning the Lacy shut-out as though it even ranks up there with Mayweather's domination of Gatti. Newsflash: it doesn't. Fight the winner of Kessler-Beyer, who, without a doubt, will be a more proven fighter than Lacy was.
Kessler KO Beyer in 7 round
Lacy was the best at 168lbs & he proved himself to be more durable than Kessler & fought better fighters than Kessler did in his first 20 or some odd fights.
Lacy was overexposed. He was never an elite fighter, he was just whored to us because the networks and Everlast thought he was going to be the "Next Tyson". JC beat a nobody, and now everyone's on his nuts
I've never said this to anyone in a serious manner...said some pretty off the cuff things in humor...but in all seriousness: YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON.
Seriously...if this is all you can contribute to the forum...hate for Lacy...& mental images of Kessler's sack resting comfortably on your chin...I just don't see a use in your constant stupidity.
As a moderator...I apologize to my superiors & fellow members for that comment...but as a forum poster & member here...I stick to my guns.
You my friend are nothing more than a hater that is guided by blind stupidity. Lacy was a hell of a boxer...still can be...I want to hear you cry yourself to sleep everynight after Kess loses a fight...because he will.
No man is unbeatable...& not matter what you think: KESSLER ARE NOT KING OF 168LBS.
Same applies for Calzaghe. I think Roy "could" beat him but Joe would have to move up and would use that as an excuse if he lost imo.
Re: Joe Calzaghe: Stop living off of Lacy
It just disgusts me that Lacy was so promissing & that he was on the hot streak & that he was a hopeful & now he's dirt & Calzaghe's still nothing...it's just gotdam ridiculous.
When will it ever be enough for Joe Calzaghe?
He's gotta beat Jones, Hopkins, or who?
It's just bullshit. Unfair.
