Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
My list would go like this...& I'll give some short but sweet drunk as fwock explanations...because most don't consider these cat's exciting.
#1: Floyd Mayweather jr. Flashy, fast, dominate, technical...best of the last 10 years. Nuff said.
#2: Manny Pacquiao. Took me awhile...but damn he just blasts 'em out.
#3: Erik Morrales. Always loved the all heart, all guts, all boxing battler.
#4: Winky Wright. Damned right. Laugh all you want...but Wright always outsmarts 'em all...& that's what I love about a boxer.
#5: Jeff Lacy. Provided he can come back...I love Lacy...explosive.
#6: Joe Calzaghe. Technical, accurate, speedy, power, & heart...I love Calzaghe.
#7: Jorge Arce...I don't think that I really even need to get into that.
#8: Wlad Klitschko. Up & down, now that Vitali is gone...what choice do I have? The guy is skilled & he's one of the more exciting heavies of the game currently.
My last two & all timers...
#9: Bernard Hopkins. The master tactician...whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always get's me going for the game.
#10: Oscar. Oscar always has & always will be an exciting fighter...hell an exciting persona of boxing to me. He's done more in & out of the ring than anyone in the game of the last 20 years. Like my guy Bernard, whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always will be. Love him or hate him...Oscar is good for the game.
PBF, best of the last 10 years? Yeah, fuckin right. Maybe if Roy Jones Jr. had never been born, maybe then. Or maybe best of the last 3-5 years, but not ten years. By 1996, ten years ago, Roy had dominated B-hop, James Toney, and avenged his DQ loss to Montell Griffin. By 2006, PBF has gotten one gift decision against Castillo, avoided fighting Tzyu, beaten Gatti, Judah, Corrales, and is preparing to face Baldomir.
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
My list would go like this...& I'll give some short but sweet drunk as fwock explanations...because most don't consider these cat's exciting.
#1: Floyd Mayweather jr. Flashy, fast, dominate, technical...best of the last 10 years. Nuff said.
#2: Manny Pacquiao. Took me awhile...but damn he just blasts 'em out.
#3: Erik Morrales. Always loved the all heart, all guts, all boxing battler.
#4: Winky Wright. Damned right. Laugh all you want...but Wright always outsmarts 'em all...& that's what I love about a boxer.
#5: Jeff Lacy. Provided he can come back...I love Lacy...explosive.
#6: Joe Calzaghe. Technical, accurate, speedy, power, & heart...I love Calzaghe.
#7: Jorge Arce...I don't think that I really even need to get into that.
#8: Wlad Klitschko. Up & down, now that Vitali is gone...what choice do I have? The guy is skilled & he's one of the more exciting heavies of the game currently.
My last two & all timers...
#9: Bernard Hopkins. The master tactician...whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always get's me going for the game.
#10: Oscar. Oscar always has & always will be an exciting fighter...hell an exciting persona of boxing to me. He's done more in & out of the ring than anyone in the game of the last 20 years. Like my guy Bernard, whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always will be. Love him or hate him...Oscar is good for the game.
PBF, best of the last 10 years? Yeah, F****** right. Maybe if Roy Jones Jr. had never been born, maybe then. Or maybe best of the last 3-5 years, but not ten years. By 1996, ten years ago, Roy had dominated B-hop, James Toney, and avenged his DQ loss to Montell Griffin. By 2006, PBF has gotten one gift decision against Castillo, avoided fighting Tzyu, beaten Gatti, Judah, Corrales, and is preparing to face Baldomir.
When Roy fought HOpkins b hop was noone, he was just a belt holder for Roy to launch his career with, and he certainly didn't have an easy time. Toney, was seriously weight drained for their fight I don't care what anyone says. Sure Roy probably would have beaten him anyways, but he was not in good form. Griffin was a pretty good fighter, but Roy didn't exactly blow him out of there in the first fight, Montell won some rounds convincingly. PBF has faced fighters who are easily as good as anyone Roy ever fought, perhaps not legacy wise but on the night of, Castillo and Judah were p4p every bit as good as anyone Roy beat.. And Floyd is a much more fundamentally sound fighter, not that you'd know anything about that. He doesn't have the power or dazzling reflexes of Roy JOnes, but he is a much better boxer. IMO Floyd is the best p4p fighter since Pernel Whittaker, they are both better than Roy JOnes in my mind.
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by p4pking
He doesn't have the power or dazzling reflexes of Roy JOnes, but he is a much better boxer.
CC. Athletically RJ's pretty much superior to anybody, but Floyd's better technically, more fundamentally sound.
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
It's a good list but I don't think 'Naco' belongs there I've seen him fight before but and exciting fighter is more then just punching power.
I would have my list like this;
ODLH
Arce
PAC
Margarito
PBF
Hatton
JMM
Cotto
Erik
Wladdy
Honor mentions; Chico, JLC, Brewster, Freitas, RMarquez, Valero, PWilliams & Vasquez
CC. Ted The Bull  :)
nice fwockin list...  cc, friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd move some fighters around... but for the most part we are in agreement
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
It's a good list but I don't think 'Naco' belongs there I've seen him fight before but and exciting fighter is more then just punching power.
I would have my list like this;
ODLH
Arce
PAC
Margarito
PBF
Hatton
JMM
Cotto
Erik
Wladdy
Honor mentions; Chico, JLC, Brewster, Freitas, RMarquez, Valero, PWilliams & Vasquez
CC. Ted The Bull :)
nice fwockin list... cc, friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd move some fighters around... but for the most part we are in agreement
Thanks....CC. #159
I'll take a guess and say you'll move Erik up and drop Margarito down...Or maybe drop Hatton a spot or two.
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
My list would go like this...& I'll give some short but sweet drunk as fwock explanations...because most don't consider these cat's exciting.
#1: Floyd Mayweather jr. Flashy, fast, dominate, technical...best of the last 10 years. Nuff said.
#2: Manny Pacquiao. Took me awhile...but damn he just blasts 'em out.
#3: Erik Morrales. Always loved the all heart, all guts, all boxing battler.
#4: Winky Wright. Damned right. Laugh all you want...but Wright always outsmarts 'em all...& that's what I love about a boxer.
#5: Jeff Lacy. Provided he can come back...I love Lacy...explosive.
#6: Joe Calzaghe. Technical, accurate, speedy, power, & heart...I love Calzaghe.
#7: Jorge Arce...I don't think that I really even need to get into that.
#8: Wlad Klitschko. Up & down, now that Vitali is gone...what choice do I have? The guy is skilled & he's one of the more exciting heavies of the game currently.
My last two & all timers...
#9: Bernard Hopkins. The master tactician...whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always get's me going for the game.
#10: Oscar. Oscar always has & always will be an exciting fighter...hell an exciting persona of boxing to me. He's done more in & out of the ring than anyone in the game of the last 20 years. Like my guy Bernard, whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always will be. Love him or hate him...Oscar is good for the game.
PBF, best of the last 10 years? Yeah, F****** right. Maybe if Roy Jones Jr. had never been born, maybe then. Or maybe best of the last 3-5 years, but not ten years. By 1996, ten years ago, Roy had dominated B-hop, James Toney, and avenged his DQ loss to Montell Griffin. By 2006, PBF has gotten one gift decision against Castillo, avoided fighting Tzyu, beaten Gatti, Judah, Corrales, and is preparing to face Baldomir.
When Roy fought HOpkins b hop was noone, he was just a belt holder for Roy to launch his career with, and he certainly didn't have an easy time. Toney, was seriously weight drained for their fight I don't care what anyone says. Sure Roy probably would have beaten him anyways, but he was not in good form. Griffin was a pretty good fighter, but Roy didn't exactly blow him out of there in the first fight, Montell won some rounds convincingly. PBF has faced fighters who are easily as good as anyone Roy ever fought, perhaps not legacy wise but on the night of, Castillo and Judah were p4p every bit as good as anyone Roy beat.. And Floyd is a much more fundamentally sound fighter, not that you'd know anything about that. He doesn't have the power or dazzling reflexes of Roy JOnes, but he is a much better boxer. IMO Floyd is the best p4p fighter since Pernel Whittaker, they are both better than Roy JOnes in my mind.
You take away RJJ's biggest wins yet EXACTLY the same principle applies to Floyd~(Castillo was not well known when he first fought Floyd,definitely not P4P top15 even and won the first fight) and Corrales was EXTREMELY weight drained too(like Toney alhtough I think Diego's situation was far worse as he didn't get full training for the fight and had prison in is mind).
Mayweather may very well be more fundamentally sound etc but I think RJJ had by far the better resume,Erik Morales has fought and beat better fighters and has awesome skill,MAB,Oscar's fought just as good fighters,Winky so no way is Floyd the best fighter of the last 10 years!Not yet anyway!
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
My list would go like this...& I'll give some short but sweet drunk as fwock explanations...because most don't consider these cat's exciting.
#1: Floyd Mayweather jr. Flashy, fast, dominate, technical...best of the last 10 years. Nuff said.
#2: Manny Pacquiao. Took me awhile...but damn he just blasts 'em out.
#3: Erik Morrales. Always loved the all heart, all guts, all boxing battler.
#4: Winky Wright. Damned right. Laugh all you want...but Wright always outsmarts 'em all...& that's what I love about a boxer.
#5: Jeff Lacy. Provided he can come back...I love Lacy...explosive.
#6: Joe Calzaghe. Technical, accurate, speedy, power, & heart...I love Calzaghe.
#7: Jorge Arce...I don't think that I really even need to get into that.
#8: Wlad Klitschko. Up & down, now that Vitali is gone...what choice do I have? The guy is skilled & he's one of the more exciting heavies of the game currently.
My last two & all timers...
#9: Bernard Hopkins. The master tactician...whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always get's me going for the game.
#10: Oscar. Oscar always has & always will be an exciting fighter...hell an exciting persona of boxing to me. He's done more in & out of the ring than anyone in the game of the last 20 years. Like my guy Bernard, whether or not he's in or out...he's just my guy & he always will be. Love him or hate him...Oscar is good for the game.
PBF, best of the last 10 years? Yeah, F****** right. Maybe if Roy Jones Jr. had never been born, maybe then. Or maybe best of the last 3-5 years, but not ten years. By 1996, ten years ago, Roy had dominated B-hop, James Toney, and avenged his DQ loss to Montell Griffin. By 2006, PBF has gotten one gift decision against Castillo, avoided fighting Tzyu, beaten Gatti, Judah, Corrales, and is preparing to face Baldomir.
When Roy fought HOpkins b hop was noone, he was just a belt holder for Roy to launch his career with, and he certainly didn't have an easy time. Toney, was seriously weight drained for their fight I don't care what anyone says. Sure Roy probably would have beaten him anyways, but he was not in good form. Griffin was a pretty good fighter, but Roy didn't exactly blow him out of there in the first fight, Montell won some rounds convincingly. PBF has faced fighters who are easily as good as anyone Roy ever fought, perhaps not legacy wise but on the night of, Castillo and Judah were p4p every bit as good as anyone Roy beat.. And Floyd is a much more fundamentally sound fighter, not that you'd know anything about that. He doesn't have the power or dazzling reflexes of Roy JOnes, but he is a much better boxer. IMO Floyd is the best p4p fighter since Pernel Whittaker, they are both better than Roy JOnes in my mind.
You are a fukin idiot. Or least you are actin like it on this subject. "B-hop was nobody..." Maybe at the time he wasn't reverred as a great champion, but as time has told us, he is. And I don't care if Toney was weight drained, easy to claim that after you've had your ass handed to you. It's a moot point as Roy woulda beat him anyway, and James had two close losses to Griffin, least one was legit, and RJJ KO'd Griffin twice. They call the first fight a DQ, but Griffin was bein KTFO. Did Roy Jones EVER need any gift decisions in his prime, or after it for that matter? NO. Did PBF, YES. And after bein upset by Baldomir Judah was not on anyone's P4P list anymore, so shut up. RJJ would beat either PBF or Pernell if they were in the same weight class, Roy Jones was faster than both. God, you must HATE Roy Jones to say such stupid crap. ::**
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
Having seen the fight on friday night between Duddy and Campas, I'd petition that Duddy would deserve an honourable mention at least, it was a cracking fight, and an absolute stormer, it swung back and forth from start to finish, there was blood all over him, he could barely see, yet he still came out on top. Even if he doesn't get on the list....surely there's an up-and-coming list by excitement that he should be put on! Not a great boxer, but a good fighter with the heart of a lion. A green irish lion indeed.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by p4pking
He doesn't have the power or dazzling reflexes of Roy JOnes, but he is a much better boxer.
CC. Athletically RJ's pretty much superior to anybody, but Floyd's better technically, more fundamentally sound.
I know I am always quick to point this out but Floyd is just as gifted athletically than Roy, Floyd relies on his fundamentals and Technical skills and defense 1st..Which he is light years ahead of Prime Roy in all of those departments...As far as reflexes go if you watch Floyd he is excellent at anticpating punches and can pull the trigger and create combos that dont appear to be there...I agree Floyd dosent have the one punch power Roy had, but I think his sharp accurate punches just cut up his opponents like a surgeon and are equally as devastating..
People call me crazy and Sad Click my a** to the hill when I say this but I'll say it again....
I am a huge RJJ fan of epic proportions but.............. Floyd is on the cusp of greatness and when he finally decides to hang em up he will have a better legacy than Roy and will be considered one of the Top5 to ever lace them up
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I have listed them if you want to call me cowardly, go right ahead. You would be right. My recent top twenty list was a learning experience in the same manner that a fighter learns from tough bouts. I took a lot of heavy shots including some low blows and a number of [sarcastic] jabs.
ROFL... don't be so melodramatic... :P
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
Erik Morales
Rafael Marquez
Nate Campbell
Manny Pac
Diego Corrales
Alex Garcia
O'Neil Bell
Wladimir Klitschko
Miguel Cotto
Allan Green
Re: Ten Most Exciting Fighters Today
my top ten of right now, in no specific order
1.Jorge Barrios
2.Jorge Arce
3.Erik Morales
4.Manny Pacquiao
5.Jhonny Gonzalez
6.Miguel Cotto
7.Ricky Hatton
8.Floyd Mayweather Jr. (in some fights)
9.Arturo Gatti
10.Juan Manuel Marquez & Rafael Marquez (they share a spot, their brothers so yea lol)
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Joe Calzaghe has to be on that list, the guy can box and he can also fight it out as he has proved with his wins over Byron Mitchell and many others.
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IMO not enough big wins to be on the top ten, but an honorable mention for sure
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IMO not enough big wins to be on the top ten, but an honorable mention for sure
Ok fair enough, but if your going off big wins, why is Cotto in your list? IMO Calzaghe has fought better p4p fighters than Cotto.
