Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Lyle
to the point he went swinging for the fences and it paid off for him
Interesting :headscratch: .... Lets see he fought Tua in a phone booth for a better part of the whole fight so he showed inside fighting prowess....Then he stalked Chris Byrd(The EXPERIENCED, slick and fast Boxer) and pinned him on the ropes and threw punches..HMMMMM :headscratch: Well if thats not how you take out a Slick and extremely mobile Boxer...How do you??? Ike used his strength to exploit Byrds weakness, well again thats what Winnings all about in anysport....If you want to debate that I'll listen...
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Everytime you talk about Ibeabuchi it's always about 2 fights he had
at least its more important fights than Calzaghe
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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I was expecting more replies since everybody talks about Ike
No disrespect to you Majesty...
Honestly I think its cause you are kinda off on your analysis....... You are awfully crtitical of Ike and scrutinize him like he was a 10 year pro or a fake alphaet title holder(valuev, maskaev) Ike never relized his potential and was very raw The Hype was VERY REAL he wasn't a product of a Promoter like (Valuev, Antonio Margarito etc.)...He earned his rep and was the complete package..
Speed
Power
Excellent Footwork
unreal stamina
Ring Smarts
Excellent defense
Unbeliavable punch output
Chris Byrd was an awsome southpaw and a Giant killer in the Heavyweight division his elusiveness speed and skills and concrete chin made a fool out of the Majority of the Heavyweights....Besides Wlad who shit on Chris Byrd like Ike did??? NO ONE did Byrd was a proven world class fighter
Ike hunted Byrd in that fight and pressured him like no one could do up to that point and few to none did after that fight.....Ike showed exceptional handspeed and just flat out took Chris's head off to the point he was drooling on himself.....He was so out of it he was argueing to the ref that it wasnt a knock down....ARE YOU SHITTEN ME??? he damn near decapitated him and than instead of fighting he was still argueing with the ref after the ref let him continue...The far away look in his eyes was worse than Meldrik Taylor's so it was waved off Mercifully....
Ike is a looney sum bitch out of the ring but in the ring he was a force and a freak of Nature
I get what you're saying. And that would be a great point. But if you noticed in the post, my beef wasn't with Ike ;)
If you want me to talk about Ike here it is, everyone makes it seem like Ike was some world beater that would have dominated the Heavyweight division and everything in it. And he isn't. he didn't win one round against Byrd there. And sure he pressured him but it wasn't effective aggressiveness until he landed that haymaker. And thats what annoys me.
But like I told you I wasn't dissing Ike. I was dissing HBO who was treating Ike like he was Oscar or something, calling every miss a hit and things like that. I'm not critical of Ike, I'm critical that the HBO announcers should quit being so got damned bias. THAT is what disgusted me.
re-read my first post please, take a second to listen who you think this record is dissin ;)
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Majesty
I was expecting more replies since everybody talks about Ike
No disrespect to you Majesty...
Honestly I think its cause you are kinda off on your analysis....... You are awfully crtitical of Ike and scrutinize him like he was a 10 year pro or a fake alphaet title holder(valuev, maskaev) Ike never relized his potential and was very raw The Hype was VERY REAL he wasn't a product of a Promoter like (Valuev, Antonio Margarito etc.)...He earned his rep and was the complete package..
Speed
Power
Excellent Footwork
unreal stamina
Ring Smarts
Excellent defense
Unbeliavable punch output
Chris Byrd was an awsome southpaw and a Giant killer in the Heavyweight division his elusiveness speed and skills and concrete chin made a fool out of the Majority of the Heavyweights....Besides Wlad who S*** on Chris Byrd like Ike did??? NO ONE did Byrd was a proven world class fighter
Ike hunted Byrd in that fight and pressured him like no one could do up to that point and few to none did after that fight.....Ike showed exceptional handspeed and just flat out took Chris's head off to the point he was drooling on himself.....He was so out of it he was argueing to the ref that it wasnt a knock down....ARE YOU SHITTEN ME??? he damn near decapitated him and than instead of fighting he was still argueing with the ref after the ref let him continue...The far away look in his eyes was worse than Meldrik Taylor's so it was waved off Mercifully....
Ike is a looney sum bitch out of the ring but in the ring he was a force and a freak of Nature
I get what you're saying. And that would be a great point. But if you noticed in the post, my beef wasn't with Ike ;)
If you want me to talk about Ike here it is, everyone makes it seem like Ike was some world beater that would have dominated the Heavyweight division and everything in it. And he isn't. he didn't win one round against Byrd there. And sure he pressured him but it wasn't effective aggressiveness until he landed that haymaker. And thats what annoys me.
But like I told you I wasn't dissing Ike. I was dissing HBO who was treating Ike like he was Oscar or something, calling every miss a hit and things like that. I'm not critical of Ike, I'm critical that the HBO announcers should quit being so got damned bias. THAT is what disgusted me.
re-read my first post please, take a second to listen who you think this record is dissin ;)
My bad your right sir Cool Click for your Trouble....Yea I like watching the fights at MY favorite Irish pub since its so loud you cant hear the volume or commentators....They do F things up and dramatize...
Back to Ike not winning anyrounds up to that point.....
Byrd is an excellent boxer thats all he is not a puncher...Take that away and he's Fwocked royally Ike wasnt going to outbox Byrd period....so he adjusted and walked him down and BOOM!!!!! Ike wasnt one dimensional to the point were he was gonna get stung bt Byrd allnite...He simply imposed his size and will on Byrd and finally grinded him down on the ropes.....
It happens all the time Classic case of a Boxer vs Power Puncher you aint gonna win by playing to your opponents strength.....
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
Commentators are useless now that you don't have to listen to the action on the radio.
I do like the antics of George Foreman and the way Manny Steward pronounces stuff "Elite" becomes "E-LIGHT"..."Lyakhovich" becomes "Lack-O-Vich" and "Maskaev" becomes "MaskOV"....hahaha I love Manny he's cool
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Honestly JT Rock and be honest.... watching that fight do you actually see Ike hitting Byrd 91 times?
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Honestly JT Rock and be honest.... watching that fight do you actually see Ike hitting Byrd 91 times?
I wont split hairs with you Bro..... I mean I cant say enough about Ike he was good for his time and we will never know how good he actually could have been...Its real sad to when you look at the current crop of Heavies and to think there was a True Blue solid bright spot once before and now we have this mess....
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Honestly JT Rock and be honest.... watching that fight do you actually see Ike hitting Byrd 91 times?
I wont split hairs with you Bro..... I mean I cant say enough about Ike he was good for his time and we will never know how good he actually could have been...Its real sad to when you look at the current crop of Heavies and to think there was a True Blue solid bright spot once before and now we have this mess....
I don't want to split hairs either. My hair is too short :) But do you really think after watching that vid that Ike landed 91 punches on Byrd?
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Honestly JT Rock and be honest.... watching that fight do you actually see Ike hitting Byrd 91 times?
I wont split hairs with you Bro..... I mean I cant say enough about Ike he was good for his time and we will never know how good he actually could have been...Its real sad to when you look at the current crop of Heavies and to think there was a True Blue solid bright spot once before and now we have this mess....
I don't want to split hairs either. My hair is too short :) But do you really think after watching that vid that Ike landed 91 punches on Byrd?
I watched the fight a month or so again when Ice Cold posted the link...I cant pull up MYspace on the work PC but I will watch it again in the next day or so cant promise 2nite since I have an Hour and 20min commute to work but I wont forget I'll probably do it on Wednesday on my dayoff. and give you an honest answer
Fair Enough you Majesty????? ;)
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
He removed the fight offa his myspace..so dont bother///
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Yeah Ike used his strength, that was expected....he was frustrated with Byrd though, you don't seem to think so, why?
He fought Tua hard, that's great but how would he deal with someone that had power outboxing him? LEWIS. How would he deal with someone just as big and strong as him tying him up and frustrating him as well as headbutting him? HOLYFIELD. How would he deal with someone he couldn't KO? MERCER, MCCALL.
There is only so much you can tell about Ike in these fights....I mean need I remind you of other Nigerian "powerhouses" like David Izon and Friday Ahunaya?
I agree Lyle BUT...Ike was a baby by boxing standards
and PunchStats had Ike landing 91 of 289- 31% punches to 84 of 208-40% for Byrd. So wasnt exactly flailing in th wind all that much so
Honestly JT Rock and be honest.... watching that fight do you actually see Ike hitting Byrd 91 times?
I wont split hairs with you Bro..... I mean I cant say enough about Ike he was good for his time and we will never know how good he actually could have been...Its real sad to when you look at the current crop of Heavies and to think there was a True Blue solid bright spot once before and now we have this mess....
I don't want to split hairs either. My hair is too short :) But do you really think after watching that vid that Ike landed 91 punches on Byrd?
I watched the fight a month or so again when Ice Cold posted the link...I cant pull up MYspace on the work PC but I will watch it again in the next day or so cant promise 2nite since I have an Hour and 20min commute to work but I wont forget I'll probably do it on Wednesday on my dayoff. and give you an honest answer
Fair Enough you Majesty????? ;)
Yeah Fair enough
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by Poom
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Everytime you talk about Ibeabuchi it's always about 2 fights he had
at least its more important fights than Calzaghe
Sad but true..
Re: I just watched the Ibeabuchi vs. Chris Byrd fight and
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Poom
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Everytime you talk about Ibeabuchi it's always about 2 fights he had
at least its more important fights than Calzaghe
Sad but true..
did you watch the fight?
