His management basically got stuck in a rut. As I keep saying I'd rather he kept active, even if it's against a C class fighter than just sit on his arse waiting for a bigger draw to be available.
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His management basically got stuck in a rut. As I keep saying I'd rather he kept active, even if it's against a C class fighter than just sit on his arse waiting for a bigger draw to be available.
Well said, Big H :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Calzaghe has beaten anybody worthy of note in the division for a decade and for anyone to detract from that is underestimating the skill Calzaghe has...
Agreed. Bika is not the man to be coming back against, but if Calzaghe sticks to his word and fights 3 times next year and hopefully 2 of them being big fights then all is forgiven...
Mario Veit was 30-0 when Calzaghe fought him, he's 48 wins only 2 losses both to JCQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'd rate him alot higher than the Lacy win.
U can keep knocking him 4 who he fights, but the fact is he beats everyone he fights!
He also travelled to Germany to beat Veit which is more of a risk than most fighters around his weight class have took, ie RJJ, Hopkins, Tarver ;)
Lacy was a good one
Here are a few names just off the top of my head considering he could have been fighting top of the line competition in 1997
RJJ
Bernard Hopkins (if he could have convinced B-Hop to move up...I don't hold it against him they didn't fight though)
Mikkel Kessler
Markus Beyer
Anthony Mundine
Danny Green
Allan Green
Carl Froch
Svenn Ottke
Thulani Malinga
Eric Lucas
Thomas Tate
I didn't say Veit was bad...that was one of his better fights....Echols would have been a good fight for Joe too
Here are the guys Calzaghe SHOULD NOT have fought
Bika - Joe is old and should only go after SUPER FIGHTS
Kadberry Saleem
Mger Mkrtchian
Tocker Pudwill
Miguel Angel Jiminez
Rick Thornberry
IF he moved up un weight the hand problems would be even worse... He would have heavier hands as a light heavey and would be cracking harder... Your bone mass doesn't strengthen when you move up... Your frame is your frame. He will fight a few more stiffs(Bika isn't a stiff by boxing standards but next to Joe he is)and then take a fight against a decent opp. for some cash and retire... We will never see him in a superfightQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
fair enough but besides RJJ and Hopkins theres no one else on that list that would be consideredQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
a huge fight! but I agree they would all be better Bika!
Both of which Calzaghe maintains didn't want to fight him.
As for Froch etc... come on Lyle... :P
...... and I'm not even going to get into the debate as to whether he is a Londoner or not !!
;)
Yeah... I thought I'd leave that too... Let Smash have that one... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by X
Is it because his parents are from there or because he was born there?
In that case I could call myself either:
A Geordie
A Scot
An Englishman
Or Spanish...
Technically, we could all call ourselves c unts using that logic
;D
*and yes, I know everyone does already call me that.*
Shut it, cunt.
Froch allows Calzaghe to stay at 168 whereas fighting Woods means about as much yet he doesn't have to leave the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I'm just going off the top of my head, but at least two of those fights were mandatories for Joe. Thornberry built up a decent record down in Oz, and he became the the mandatory. The others, I believe Jimenez, and Mkrtchian were also mandatory. And as for Saleem, he had a bad rep as a dirty roughhouse fighter, and, Joe did need to prove he could do more than box, he could mix it with the cheating buggers as well. Pudwill was a bum, and just a keeping busy fight. Same as I believe the Bika fight is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle