Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I don't know how you guys get off saying Baldo. has no chance. A cut, illness or hand injury can competely turn the entire match.
Yes but these factors could happen in any fight. Under ordinary circumstances, presuimg Floyd doesnt suffer some massive freak injury Mayweather will coast this.
If he broke a hand in the first round I'd still pick to win every round with his other.
If his second hand went in the 7th round, Floyd would already have a 6 round lead and could just bob and weave his way to a win, presuming he managed to win one more of the remaining 6, which even with two broken hands I could see him doing.
For me Floyd would have to break both hands and one leg in order for this to be a close fight.
Baldy has been way overrated, he will come down to earth with a bump come next weekend.
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Baldimir is a good fighter with lots of heart, I think he's better than Margarito but by no means should he be FAVORED over Floyd, I'm just saying Floyd doesn't have Roger in his corner and he doesn't have Roger training him either, he already has that adversity in his camp, he's a great fighter but I won't be shocked if Carlos gives him a really tough time
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ds91
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...there will be an IMMEDIATE rematch and the loss will be blamed on Roger's absence
agreed
Thank God someone finally agreed with me! CC
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Baldamir pulled off a win, I would really not be shocked if he did everything but KO Floyd and lost a decision either.
Floyd has to be careful in this one, Carlos can take punches....he took Gatti's and kept coming...he's only been KO'd in ONE fight out of 58 and that was in 1994!!!
damn that was a long time ago. i still think mayweather will win. obviliously by decision. thanks for the CC
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Bob n weave for six rounds, hahaha.
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by ds91
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ds91
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...there will be an IMMEDIATE rematch and the loss will be blamed on Roger's absence
agreed
Thank God someone finally agreed with me! CC
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Baldamir pulled off a win, I would really not be shocked if he did everything but KO Floyd and lost a decision either.
Floyd has to be careful in this one, Carlos can take punches....he took Gatti's and kept coming...he's only been KO'd in ONE fight out of 58 and that was in 1994!!!
damn that was a long time ago. i still think mayweather will win. obviliously by decision. thanks for the CC
Yeah this is from a long time ago. Look, Lyle thought that ds91's agreement meant something, lol. He also searches for compliments from his toaster
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by ds91
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ds91
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...there will be an IMMEDIATE rematch and the loss will be blamed on Roger's absence
agreed
Thank God someone finally agreed with me! CC
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Baldamir pulled off a win, I would really not be shocked if he did everything but KO Floyd and lost a decision either.
Floyd has to be careful in this one, Carlos can take punches....he took Gatti's and kept coming...he's only been KO'd in ONE fight out of 58 and that was in 1994!!!
damn that was a long time ago. i still think mayweather will win. obviliously by decision. thanks for the CC
Yeah this is from a long time ago. Look, Lyle thought that ds91's agreement meant something, lol. He also searches for compliments from his toaster
:coolclick: Heh heh heh.
If Floyd were to lose...it'd be due to his hands, IWO.
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
The dude has certainly travelled:-
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007612
England, Denmark, Mexico, Argentina (38 times), USA, germany...even South Africa !!
To make weight, Baldi basically doesn't eat for 3 days but often puts at least 12lb+ come fight night.
Plus all of his 58 fights have been at 147 since he began in 1993...when Floyd was just 15yrs old, so has a lot of experience.
..Floyd fought his first scheduled 10 round fight in his 10th outing.. Baldi fought his first 10 rounder in his 5th fight.
This will be only Floyd's 6th fight above 135lb with his first genuine welter-weight.
I dont believe it will be a walk in the park for Mayweather, as Arturo said after his fight with Baldi "He was just so strong and seemed to be getting even stronger"
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
Alright seriously I have seen this a few times...Now what you see here is a slow predictable Gatti outboxing Baldomir..Gatti was fainting, leaning and making Baldo miss on quite a few occassions...Yes this same Gatti who literally got beat to death by Floyd last year and was getting stuffed in the Body and the mouth before he could even get a punch off...
seriously Folks watch how slow and predictable Baldo is if Gatti can get in and out of there before he was taking shots than Floyd will be sitting in the front row maccen it up to some honey in the front row before Baldo can counter...
Gattis biggest mistake was trying to stand and trade with Baldo..The fight was pretty even until Gatti got Smashed see Gatti was doing fine but he couldnt adjust to the right hand of Baldo and that was his demise..Gatti then went to war like his instincts and crowd urge him to do....Yes Gatti who was relying on mediocre Boxing skills was in a good position to win....
Floyd is just to damn good and I can see Baldo ending up like Coralles just following him around the ring getting buzzed all nite getting Frustrated and not be able to get his punches off Floyd will not stand there he will attack at different angles will counter Carlos all nite Floyd will wear him out he's got the endurance of an ethiopean marathon runner..
Also you forget Floyd's mean streak we think of him as the "Pretty Boy" but he is one ruthless son of a bitch in there...He will rough Baldo up by pushing him, Grinding the forearm under the nose while pushing off during the break, bearing down on the back of Baldo's neck during the break...
The sports biggest Star will put on a virtuoso performance....Floyd wont even have a scratch on his face....
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Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
To make weight, Baldi basically doesn't eat for 3 days but often puts at least 12lb+ come fight night.
That's a risky strategy though...if it's on point.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Plus all of his 58 fights have been at 147 since he began in 1993...when Floyd was just 15yrs old, so has a lot of experience.
..Floyd fought his first scheduled 10 round fight in his 10th outing.. Baldi fought his first 10 rounder in his 5th fight.
IWO, this will not make a difference.
Baldo may be experienced...but he's never experienced anything like Floyd.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
This will be only Floyd's 6th fight above 135lb with his first genuine welter-weight.
The weight is the only thing that could factor in to this fight in Baldo's favor...that & Floyd's brittle hands upside his melon head.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
I dont believe it will be a walk in the park for Mayweather, as Arturo said after his fight with Baldi "He was just so strong and seemed to be getting even stronger"
Agreed. It won't be a walk in the park IWO.
The thing is...in boxing...I've seen plenty of smaller men hand the bigger gents their asses.
Floyd is a perfect example of speed over strength.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Alright seriously I have seen this a few times...Now what you see here is a slow predictable Gatti outboxing Baldomir..Gatti was fainting, leaning and making Baldo miss on quite a few occassions...Yes this same Gatti who literally got beat to death by Floyd last year and was getting stuffed in the Body and the mouth before he could even get a punch off...
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
seriously Folks watch how slow and predictable Baldo is if Gatti can get in and out of there before he was taking shots than Floyd will be sitting in the front row maccen it up to some honey in the front row before Baldo can counter...
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Gattis biggest mistake was trying to stand and trade with Baldo..The fight was pretty even until Gatti got Smashed see Gatti was doing fine but he couldnt adjust to the right hand of Baldo and that was his demise..Gatti then went to war like his instincts and crowd urge him to do....Yes Gatti who was relying on mediocre Boxing skills was in a good position to win....
Agreed. Gatti was pretty much just learning to box & not brawl under the hands of McGirt.
Case in point...against Mayweather...Gatti looked less than one dimensional.
He looked like what he actually is...& no offense Gatti fans...but he's pretty much a journeyman.
Anytime he's stepped up...he's gotten knocked down.
I don't expect Baldo to do the same.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Floyd is just to damn good and I can see Baldo ending up like Coralles just following him around the ring getting buzzed all nite getting Frustrated and not be able to get his punches off Floyd will not stand there he will attack at different angles will counter Carlos all nite Floyd will wear him out he's got the endurance of an ethiopean marathon runner..
Truthfully...I think that this is what will happen.
Floyd aint gonna take Baldo lightly...not like Judah did. Floyd knows that this is going to be work. He won't come in to play.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Also you forget Floyd's mean streak we think of him as the "Pretty Boy" but he is one ruthless son of a bitch in there...He will rough Baldo up by pushing him, Grinding the forearm under the nose while pushing off during the break, bearing down on the back of Baldo's neck during the break...
To true. Floyd can be pretty ruff on the inside.
What Baldo has to do is develop the mentallity himself. Baldo could really really hurt Floyd in close if he uses his head, elbows, & everything else including his fists. Then again...Castillo tried that in the second fight & lost...so did Corley.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
The sports biggest Star will put on a virtuoso performance....Floyd wont even have a scratch on his face....
Here's where we disagree on matters of Floyd, finally.
I honestly see this as Floyd's most dangerous fight at 147. He's going to be facing a man with everything to lose & everything to gain. Sure...Floyd gains a lot off of this win...but not as much as Baldo would.
Ruff night & Floyd leaves bloody.
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Here's where we disagree on matters of Floyd, finally.
I honestly see this as Floyd's most dangerous fight at 147. He's going to be facing a man with everything to lose & everything to gain. Sure...Floyd gains a lot off of this win...but not as much as Baldo would.
Ruff night & Floyd leaves bloody.
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Well you might be right on that one...Do you think a Floyd TKO over Baldy is totally out of the question??? I mean I know anythings possible...But reasonably speaking
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Alright seriously I have seen this a few times...Now what you see here is a slow predictable Gatti outboxing Baldomir..Gatti was fainting, leaning and making Baldo miss on quite a few occassions...Yes this same Gatti who literally got beat to death by Floyd last year and was getting stuffed in the Body and the mouth before he could even get a punch off...
seriously Folks watch how slow and predictable Baldo is if Gatti can get in and out of there before he was taking shots than Floyd will be sitting in the front row maccen it up to some honey in the front row before Baldo can counter...
Gattis biggest mistake was trying to stand and trade with Baldo..The fight was pretty even until Gatti got Smashed see Gatti was doing fine but he couldnt adjust to the right hand of Baldo and that was his demise..Gatti then went to war like his instincts and crowd urge him to do....Yes Gatti who was relying on mediocre Boxing skills was in a good position to win....
Floyd is just to damn good and I can see Baldo ending up like Coralles just following him around the ring getting buzzed all nite getting Frustrated and not be able to get his punches off Floyd will not stand there he will attack at different angles will counter Carlos all nite Floyd will wear him out he's got the endurance of an ethiopean marathon runner..
Also you forget Floyd's mean streak we think of him as the "Pretty Boy" but he is one ruthless son of a bitch in there...He will rough Baldo up by pushing him, Grinding the forearm under the nose while pushing off during the break, bearing down on the back of Baldo's neck during the break...
The sports biggest Star will put on a virtuoso performance....Floyd wont even have a scratch on his face....
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Agreed,especially the last sentence,Cool Click bro.
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Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Owe you in 24 8)
Thanks Bro I look forward to next week :jabbing: :dance1: ...... :coolclick: in 24
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
Baldomir should be giving the most respect if he can pull that off. However if PBF does lose, he will then be forced to take the hardest fights out there and proove his worth. Im not sure Floyd loosing would be a bad thing actaully thinking about it!
ARRGGGHHHH, Floyd aint going to get beat though!
Re: IF Baldi beats Mayweather....
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...there will be an IMMEDIATE rematch and the loss will be blamed on Roger's absence
I think it will put boxing in an even bigger state of confusion.....the one constant right now is PBF...a loss could bring Hatton out for a fight w/PBF....ODLH,SSM,COTTO,insert another fighters name here all could stand to lose mega millions!!!!! A loss in the records will force PBF's hand considerably..he would have to fight everyone....while at the current time an undefeated record affords him the right to pick and choose his career path.....and Baldomir might get a few more big paydays but the limelight will fade soon after...PBF brings so much more to boxing......boxing needs PBF to win almost more than PBF needs to win