Calzaghe: I will not fight Kessler

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i think kessler is being a bit to over hyped on this site sometimes. he's hardly a phenomenon. i think taylor is a better boxer than kessler and if he became a bit more of an aggresive fighter i would be really impressed by him. and i can see joe's way of thinking if he's out to impress the yanks and make the dollar. but i would much rather see him fight kessler and unify.

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A better boxer in what way? Kessler has the edge in power, size, technique , speed, defence and movements but of course Kessler does not have an American passport....

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Originally Posted by 4YOU

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i think kessler is being a bit to over hyped on this site sometimes. he's hardly a phenomenon. i think taylor is a better boxer than kessler and if he became a bit more of an aggresive fighter i would be really impressed by him. and i can see joe's way of thinking if he's out to impress the yanks and make the dollar. but i would much rather see him fight kessler and unify.

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A better boxer in what way? Kessler has the edge in power, size, technique , speed, defence and movements

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which boxer can beat kessler then :(

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i think kessler is being a bit to over hyped on this site sometimes. he's hardly a phenomenon. i think taylor is a better boxer than kessler and if he became a bit more of an aggresive fighter i would be really impressed by him. and i can see joe's way of thinking if he's out to impress the yanks and make the dollar. but i would much rather see him fight kessler and unify.

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On the contrary.
Kessler get's less credit in this forum than in any other international forum i know (i check out 4-5 of these regularly).

I know the regulars of this forum believe they (and this forum in general) are superior to any other(s).

Which is just one more reason why i'd have such a laugh If 1) Kessler-Calzaghe happened and 2) Kessler won.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i think kessler is being a bit to over hyped on this site sometimes. he's hardly a phenomenon. i think taylor is a better boxer than kessler and if he became a bit more of an aggresive fighter i would be really impressed by him. and i can see joe's way of thinking if he's out to impress the yanks and make the dollar. but i would much rather see him fight kessler and unify.

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On the contrary.
Kessler get's less credit in this forum than in any other international forum i know (i check out 4-5 of these regularly).

I know the regulars of this forum believe they (and this forum in general) are superior to any other(s).

Which is just one more reason why i'd have such a laugh If 1) Kessler-Calzaghe happened and 2) Kessler won.

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firstly why would u laugh secondly actually people do credit him its just people like 4you overrate him too much maybe u should have look bit more on this forum before u say that bud ;)

JC: I've heard I'll be fighting the Dane Mikkel Kessler to unify the division in February in Europe, but I'm not interested in him - he doesn't mean anything to America.


Kessler needs that fight more than I do. You won't tempt Bernard Hopkins to fight me.


The great man, like a number of so-called big names in America, has always got a handy excuse not to fight me. I hope Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor will move up a division from middleweight because they're good fighters - but they're both fighting in December and the February date Frank has been given by HBO could be too soon, unfortunately. But I'd take any big name :angel: :baeh: :bananastyle:.


:'( baby Calzaghe it is funny that peoples keep avoid him and he still rather fight real opponents rather than unify hahaha.. My respect for J is gone with the wind.

See what Calzaghe I have a new opponent for you ..

introducing Mean Fighting SMILEEEYYY :box3: :jabbing:

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

firstly why would u laugh secondly actually people do credit him its just people like 4you overrate him too much maybe u should have look bit more on this forum before u say that bud ;)

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Firstly - vindication. The vast majority on this board has been sooooo bloody assured that Calzaghe wold just walk over a guy like Kessler. I bit of doubt may be seaping in now.


I haven't been around long enough to know all what Royal has been saying in the past. But judging from what i've seen in other forums leading up to Lacy-Calzaghe fight. I doubt very much Royal has been any worse than a great number of pro-Lacy ppl were then. The shear volume of it was so extreme it was unbelievable.

But because Royal was pretty much alone AND because most of you untill recently really had little clue what Kessler was about, it made Royal stand out a lot more, making it very easy to just ASSUME he was way off and all his claims were much more ridiculous than any pro-Lacy, pro-Calzaghe or pro-whoever claims being made.

This attitude towards Kessler (perhaps caused by Royal) still sticks to this forum much more than anywhere else.

It is true that most of us did not know Kessler very well until Royal came along.

Unfortunately, Royal is insane and a racist fool to boot, so people did not take him seriously. he diluted some of the sense he DID talk about Kessler by making racist comments about Lacy.

Thus, rightly or wrongly, people associate Kessler with racism.

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Originally Posted by jangeorg

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This is the type of S*** that really pises me off :bootyshake: :Moon:


F*** Joe"duck duck duck duck"Calzaghe.

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He never said that he wouldn't fight Kessler...he just said:

"I've heard I'll be fighting the Dane Mikkel Kessler to unify the division in February in Europe, but I'm not interested in him - he doesn't mean anything to America."

Big difference in saying I WILL NOT FIGHT KESSLER

"Kessler needs that fight more than I do."

Very true. Kessler does need the fight more than Joe.

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

part of me can understand why calzaghe would rather fight taylor than kessler. from what i've seen of kessler taylor is a better fighter and would probably be a better name on his record (but if you look at joe's record it doesn't look to me like getting the best names on it has ever been his number one priority). taylor (being a yank himself) is obviously a bigger name in the states and therefore joe would be able to showcase him self over there a lot more by fighting taylor than he would if he took the kessler fight. a taylor fight would make calzaghe more pennies than a kessler fight aswell.
but on the other hand it looks to me that the vast majority of people (including me) would rather see joe fight kessler and unify the division.

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Taylor is a bigger name...but I don't think that he's a better fighter than Kessler. They both have their strong points & they both have their weak points...IWO...it's in both of their defences.

Taylor would pull more press in the states though...I agree there...but again...I don't agree that he's the better fighter.

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Originally Posted by 4YOU

Taylor a better fighter than Kessler? Huh, it what ways?

Kessler would easily UD Taylor with one hand imo.

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Come on now. Be realistic.

Shit like this is what turns people off from Kessler.

Kessler is good...but again...he aint God.

I honestly think that Taylor Kessler would be a damned good fight. Power for power...my money would be on Kess. Skill for skill...I think that Taylor is a bit more well rounded...but the question would be: Could he handle the power of a true 168lb punch?

Especially one from Kess.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

On the contrary.
Kessler get's less credit in this forum than in any other international forum i know (i check out 4-5 of these regularly).

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On the contrary...I give Kessler loads of credit...but he is not the second coming in boxing as many many Dane's claim & a lot of people on here just really don't dig on Kessler & base their opinions on him for that reason.

Personally...I think that that's silly...but I can see where they are coming from...no one wants elitist views crammed down their throats on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

I know the regulars of this forum believe they (and this forum in general) are superior to any other(s).

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The regulars believe this forum is tip top because...generally...there isn't a lot of shit talking or jerk offs that last on here long.

That's the reason a lot of us regulars like this site the best. It has nothing to do with superiority.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

Which is just one more reason why i'd have such a laugh If 1) Kessler-Calzaghe happened and 2) Kessler won.

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If Kessler beats Calzaghe...I'd be damned impressed.

I just don't believe that he will. Honestly...I don't even think that the fight will happen...I think both Calzaghe & Kessler's prices will cause it to derail.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

This attitude towards Kessler (perhaps caused by Royal) still sticks to this forum much more than anywhere else.

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You just hit the nail on the head. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by X

It is true that most of us did not know Kessler very well until Royal came along.

Unfortunately, Royal is insane and a racist fool to boot, so people did not take him seriously. he diluted some of the sense he DID talk about Kessler by making racist comments about Lacy.

Thus, rightly or wrongly, people associate Kessler with racism.

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OK.

As i said i haven't been around long and i didn't witness the racist stuff. That explains a lot. I understand how that could make anyone turn against Kessler just by perceived association to such.

To Wacko - Yes i've noticed you've generally given Kessler due credit. Fair enough that you rate Calzaghe better. Just wanna comment on your take on elitist views. That ALSO works both ways.
That's the feeling i've often gotten comming in here. That an elitist view about Calzaghe being untouchable was being driven down my throat.

Unfortunately at times that made me react less respectfully about Calzaghe's skills than perhaps i should have(other things i've said about Calzaghe i don't feel apologetic about).

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Originally Posted by dumdane

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i think kessler is being a bit to over hyped on this site sometimes. he's hardly a phenomenon. i think taylor is a better boxer than kessler and if he became a bit more of an aggresive fighter i would be really impressed by him. and i can see joe's way of thinking if he's out to impress the yanks and make the dollar. but i would much rather see him fight kessler and unify.

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On the contrary.
Kessler get's less credit in this forum than in any other international forum i know (i check out 4-5 of these regularly).

I know the regulars of this forum believe they (and this forum in general) are superior to any other(s).

Which is just one more reason why i'd have such a laugh If 1) Kessler-Calzaghe happened and 2) Kessler won.

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fair play mate i give kessler credit it just annoys me when 4you says stupid things like kessler could beat taylor with one hand its just stupid and nonsense i thought this was boxing forum royal with great knowledge from others and u learn more not the bloody nonsense u do i can understand ur a fan but u take it too far im calzaghe fan but atleast i can admit calzaghe would get beaten by jones and few of the others because believe it or not there human no one is god and no one is unbeatable

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by 4YOU

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

part of me can understand why calzaghe would rather fight taylor than kessler. from what i've seen of kessler taylor is a better fighter and would probably be a better name on his record (but if you look at joe's record it doesn't look to me like getting the best names on it has ever been his number one priority). taylor (being a yank himself) is obviously a bigger name in the states and therefore joe would be able to showcase him self over there a lot more by fighting taylor than he would if he took the kessler fight. a taylor fight would make calzaghe more pennies than a kessler fight aswell.
but on the other hand it looks to me that the vast majority of people (including me) would rather see joe fight kessler and unify the division.

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Taylor a better fighter than Kessler? Huh, it what ways?

Kessler would easily UD Taylor with one hand imo.

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I agree with that...

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wtf? taylor stops kessler late...
imo kessler gets outboxed in a way he never has before and loses heart late in the fight and gets stopped in the championship rounds...

and as far as mr c goes... one: he better land a big fight next or i will personall walk up to him and tattoo bum on his forhead..
and also... its not kesslers name you want on your record.. its his titles you idiot!
how can joe not think he will have no challengers if he is undisputed...
i think he scared of stepping up...
americans know who kessler is of course they do!! lol
peace

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Originally Posted by BodyHead

imo kessler gets outboxed in a way he never has before and loses heart late in the fight and gets stopped in the championship rounds...

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It would have to be in a way he's never been before, as so far Kessler has never been outboxed.
I'm not ruling out you could be right. But to just walk over one of the top-dogs in a higher weightclass is no easy feat. Even for Taylor i believe.

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and as far as mr c goes... one: he better land a big fight next or i will personall walk up to him and tattoo bum on his forhead..
and also... its not kesslers name you want on your record.. its his titles you idiot!
how can joe not think he will have no challengers if he is undisputed...
i think he scared of stepping up...
americans know who kessler is of course they do!! lol
peace

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Absolutely agree with this part.

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Originally Posted by X

It is true that most of us did not know Kessler very well until Royal came along.

Unfortunately, Royal is insane and a racist fool to boot, so people did not take him seriously. he diluted some of the sense he DID talk about Kessler by making racist comments about Lacy.

Thus, rightly or wrongly, people associate Kessler with racism.

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You are really a moron and NONE of what you just wrote is true. Find one post of racism from Royal, thanks....

Let Calzaghe make a name for himself in the US then..its something he should have done a long time ago. Kessler wants to impress someone? fight Glen Johnson and win convincingly.

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