who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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10-30-2006, 09:42 PM
Tito BHB

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I'm a bit surprised when Carl Froch wins a fight, no matter who its against. I must be slightly underrating him, cause he just looks horrible to me, not medicore, horrible, bad enough that if a complete journeyman beat him I wouldn't be surprised at all.

lol yeh i think thats whats in some of his appeal.. i have a friend whos a bit of a fan of him...
says its because hes jus a tough fighter and its exciting to watch cos hes vulnerable..
can sort of understand it :-\ lol
10-30-2006, 09:46 PM
Kev

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

you can't honestly think that hopkins beat taylor both times mate. elterriblemorales. taylor won the first fight convincingly and then b hop gave it all the 'i'm not gonna leave it up to the judges this time round' and then faught exactly the same fight as the first time round.
i think carl froch is gonna lose that 0 if he steps up in opposition next year. if he faces lacy, manfredo jr, or even danny green he's gonna lose it. i think brian magee showed that he can be hurt and a fighter with a bit more class will nail him.

Now I completely agreed with you regarding Hopkins losing both times to Taylor, but Froch losing to Mafredo :o ???

I don't see that happening, Froch's defense aint all that hot but he has a great chin, bags of stamina and more pop in his hands than anyone Manfredo has ever faced.

I doubt the fight would ever happen but if it did I'd be going for a Froch late stoppage, round 11 or 12.

Manfredo is ok against the Spina's and Pemberton's of the world but against anyone who can box and who isn't technically dead he struggles. Froch would eat him up.
10-30-2006, 09:58 PM
CutMeMick

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

who do you boys reckon is gonna lose the undefeated streak first in the near future? 2007 potentialy brings about shit loads of exciting match ups and nearly all the undefeated big players are fighting risky fights. who's still going to be undefeated this time next year?
carl froch
joe calzaghe
jermain taylor
mikkel kessler
ricky hatton
miguel cotto
floyd mayweather
demetrius hopkins
valuev
calvin brock
or anyone else ya can think of

People here thought I was crazy the last time I predicted that Brian Viloria would be the 1st to loose his '0' no one believed me then weeks later he looses.... I just judged him and the rest of the fighters based on their last performances and skills a mixture abd to me Viloria looked VERY beatable against Aguirre....

Anyway!! from this list I'm gonna with Brock....
10-30-2006, 10:13 PM
El Kabong

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

Brock loses his by KO to Wladimir Klitschko
Valuev will be the last to lose his as Don King ain't about to let him fight a LEGIT heavyweight
I can't see Hatton losing his to anyone other than JLC or Cotto at 140, at 147 Baldomir would be ALL WRONG for him
PBF, the talent is out there to stop him but he's been on a roll for so long most guys are beat before they get in the ring with him
10-30-2006, 10:18 PM
Tito BHB

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Brock loses his by KO to Wladimir Klitschko
Valuev will be the last to lose his as Don King ain't about to let him fight a LEGIT heavyweight
I can't see Hatton losing his to anyone other than JLC or Cotto at 140, at 147 Baldomir would be ALL WRONG for him
PBF, the talent is out there to stop him but he's been on a roll for so long most guys are beat before they get in the ring with him

i see things as far as hatton goes very similarly to you... i agree that its possible hatton looses to jlc or cotto, but i also say its possible hatton beats them both too... very close rough exciting fights though..
not that i believe hatton will meet cotto as i dont beleiev cotto will come back down to 140..
and for the same reason i dont believe hatton will meet baldo or cotto at 147 cos he has stated he will only go to 147 for a big bout with mayweather!
and your pretty much right on the mayweather ricky fight... he deffo can but im not sure he will....
peace
10-30-2006, 10:29 PM
El Kabong

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

Very true....I'm not hating on Ricky, I just think he's more suseptable to being outboxed or outpowered.
10-31-2006, 12:12 AM
Hacienda

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

you can't honestly think that hopkins beat taylor both times mate. elterriblemorales. taylor won the first fight convincingly and then b hop gave it all the 'i'm not gonna leave it up to the judges this time round' and then faught exactly the same fight as the first time round.
i think carl froch is gonna lose that 0 if he steps up in opposition next year. if he faces lacy, manfredo jr, or even danny green he's gonna lose it. i think brian magee showed that he can be hurt and a fighter with a bit more class will nail him.

Now I completely agreed with you regarding Hopkins losing both times to Taylor, but Froch losing to Mafredo :o ???

I don't see that happening, Froch's defense aint all that hot but he has a great chin, bags of stamina and more pop in his hands than anyone Manfredo has ever faced.

I doubt the fight would ever happen but if it did I'd be going for a Froch late stoppage, round 11 or 12.

Manfredo is ok against the Spina's and Pemberton's of the world but against anyone who can box and who isn't technically dead he struggles. Froch would eat him up.

In agreement Bilbo.

A fighter's biggest assets are his whiskers & power, which Froch has in spades.

With regards his pedigree, he trains exceptionally hard and is always in peak condition when he climbs through the ropes, as is pretty obvious from his build.

Perhaps he could be 'out-hustled' over 12 rounds, but i don't believe he'd be stopped.

Froch looks as though he throws fights away, rather than come from behind if that makes any sense - he seems fairly happy to fight along with the tempo at this level.

At the higher level i believe he will be more incentivised to perform 100%, rather than 5% more than his opponent.

The Dodson fight will certainly dispell or prove, any opinions on him.

I think it will be a good domestic UK fight, with rivalry and needle in abundance between the two operators, which will give us arm chairs fans a treat.
10-31-2006, 12:18 AM
El Kabong

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

Sounds to me like Froch-Ronald Hearns needs to be made!!!
10-31-2006, 12:53 AM
bigragu

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

calvin brock then followed by valuev if he fights wlad

Yep....Brock is gonna lose the "0" Hatton would have already lost it but he went back to 140...Kessler if he fights Joe C..
10-31-2006, 03:22 AM
Koori Warrior

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

Taylor ;)
10-31-2006, 03:45 AM
Saddo

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

im all for the fairy tale boxer stories so im gonna go with Mayweather ;D
10-31-2006, 03:53 AM
Koori Warrior

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

I hope with all my heart that you are right Saddo. That would be awesome. Then Kostya can come back and finish the giant killer off. ;)
10-31-2006, 04:02 AM
Saddo

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by Rudy Zarzoff

I hope with all my heart that you are right Saddo. That would be awesome. Then Kostya can come back and finish the giant killer off. ;)

is he still coming back ??

hope he does if im honest and finish off with a win and isnt just doing what Naz used to do every month with his comeback rubbish :-\
10-31-2006, 04:23 AM
Violent Demise

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

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Originally Posted by Saddo

im all for the fairy tale boxer stories so im gonna go with Mayweather ;D

Guess your in for a rude awakening
10-31-2006, 04:31 AM
Koori Warrior

Re: who's gonna be the first fighter to lose the O?

Kostya seems to want to come back, but Johnny Lewis is really against it. The decision they reckon will be made by the end of this year. That is only 8 weeks. I hope he does for 1 final bout. Against Hatton in Melbourne, Australia at the mighty MCG. AND AT A NORMAL TIME! ;D

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