Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Roy SHOULD change his style just a little bit like the Ajamu fight where he had his hands up more often.
And Siaca is ranked 2 at Light Heavyweight.
Ranked #2 by who? The WBO? Not by Ring or ESPN.com.
WBA
Eh..thats better than nothin then I guess. Didn't Siaca hold the Super Middle WBA title someone was saying on here till he got KO'd by Kessler? And isn't Adamek the LH WBA Champ? In any case that adds some credibility to Siaca, least he's a former champ and can go on Jone's resume of 14+ past or current champs he has whipped.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Roy SHOULD change his style just a little bit like the Ajamu fight where he had his hands up more often.
And Siaca is ranked 2 at Light Heavyweight.
Ranked #2 by who? The WBO? Not by Ring or ESPN.com.
WBA
Eh..thats better than nothin then I guess. Didn't Siaca hold the Super Middle WBA title someone was saying on here till he got KO'd by Kessler? And isn't Adamek the LH WBA Champ? In any case that adds some credibility to Siaca, least he's a former champ and can go on Jone's resume of 14+ past or current champs he has whipped.
Yes it can. And Siaca is a hard hitter so Jones' chin will be tested if he gets caught.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Roy SHOULD change his style just a little bit like the Ajamu fight where he had his hands up more often.
And Siaca is ranked 2 at Light Heavyweight.
Ranked #2 by who? The WBO? Not by Ring or ESPN.com.
WBA
Eh..thats better than nothin then I guess. Didn't Siaca hold the Super Middle WBA title someone was saying on here till he got KO'd by Kessler? And isn't Adamek the LH WBA Champ? In any case that adds some credibility to Siaca, least he's a former champ and can go on Jone's resume of 14+ past or current champs he has whipped.
Agreed, if RJJ has any hopes of going beyond the level he is at at the moment, Siaca is certainly a step up fom Prince Badi Ajamu. In my view, this would need to be a pretty emphatic win in order to convince me that he can go on and back to world title contention. Whether he still has the skills, no doubt, is his body still there, perhaps, does he have enough motivation? That's where I think he might not be williing to make the sacrifices he used to.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Roy SHOULD change his style just a little bit like the Ajamu fight where he had his hands up more often.
Very true... if he'd starting using a tighter guard as he slowed down he would never of got hit with that fluke punch by Tarver.
Tarver will never get credit for it from me... he has his eyes shut, doesn't defend the one Roy hits him with first and doesn't even look at were the shot goes... pure luck... he wasn't trying for it.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Can I ask you something..
What Roy Jones fights have you seen?
Because Roy Jones was the "definition" of dominating an opponent in his prime. You never saw his behind the back KO did you?
You want domination? The Richard Hall fight is the place for you.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
I think Majesty is right, Roy should change his style up a bit. If you look at the fighters who really lasted a long time they adapted to what their bodies were and were not able to do.
Look at these two guys:
Muhammad Ali: Young- up on his toes, moving, using flashy speed, combos. OLD - on the ropes, clinching, seldom moving, using flurries less often but still effective, did what he could to last the distance and win by UD and didn't focus on power.
Mike Tyson: Young - combinations, good head movement, good defense, great hand speed. OLD - 1 punch at a time, no defense, no head movement, less combinations, basically only a 4 round fighter.
Roy Jones needs to use his speed, have less early focus on power, focus on carrying power late into fights, use the ropes, more defense, and box more instead of overwhelming guys with his handspeed and power. The key is to use the one punch he never used to use....THE JAB!!!
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
Jones Jr will get knocked out in his next fight..... He is just chasing his past.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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WHO'S THE MASTER!?!?!?!
SHO NUFF!!!
;D
"Can you teach me some moves?????"
"How did you know that was the blue arrow?"
the GLOW
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Can I ask you something..
What Roy Jones fights have you seen?
Because Roy Jones was the "definition" of dominating an opponent in his prime. You never saw his behind the back KO did you?
You want domination? The Richard Hall fight is the place for you.
i admit i didnt see lots of his early fights. maybe he was better then. seems like the ones i saw formed my perspective of him. And the big losses to Tarver and Johnson didnt help.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Can I ask you something..
What Roy Jones fights have you seen?
Because Roy Jones was the "definition" of dominating an opponent in his prime. You never saw his behind the back KO did you?
You want domination? The Richard Hall fight is the place for you.
i admit i didnt see lots of his early fights. maybe he was better then. seems like the ones i saw formed my perspective of him. And the big losses to Tarver and Johnson didnt help.
In other words you only saw those fights.... Roy Jones in his prime was as dominant as they come.. he rarely went the distance against anyone I really doubt you have watched many of his fights.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Can I ask you something..
What Roy Jones fights have you seen?
Because Roy Jones was the "definition" of dominating an opponent in his prime. You never saw his behind the back KO did you?
You want domination? The Richard Hall fight is the place for you.
i admit i didnt see lots of his early fights. maybe he was better then. seems like the ones i saw formed my perspective of him. And the big losses to Tarver and Johnson didnt help.
In other words you only saw those fights.... Roy Jones in his prime was as dominant as they come.. he rarely went the distance against anyone I really doubt you have watched many of his fights.
Well his last 20 fights he has 9 ko and tkos combined, 7 wins by decision and 4 losses ... so less than 50% ko wins and 20% losses...........Dominating??
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hmmm....... I never liked Jones. To much mouth,cocky attitude and not enough pop to go with it. A dominant fighter does just that,DOMINATES opponents. Jones jinks and jives and dances and runs and throws pitty pat combos. If your sooooooo good and soooo much better,knock everyone the *#$@ out!!! If you take all 15 (or 12 or whatever) rounds to win a decision and the guy leaves the ring unmarked and standing,you didn't dominate,you bored me. Its like John Ruiz, finds a way to win, and make everyone hate him at the same time. No disrespect,just dont like the style.
Can I ask you something..
What Roy Jones fights have you seen?
Because Roy Jones was the "definition" of dominating an opponent in his prime. You never saw his behind the back KO did you?
You want domination? The Richard Hall fight is the place for you.
i admit i didnt see lots of his early fights. maybe he was better then. seems like the ones i saw formed my perspective of him. And the big losses to Tarver and Johnson didnt help.
In other words you only saw those fights.... Roy Jones in his prime was as dominant as they come.. he rarely went the distance against anyone I really doubt you have watched many of his fights.
Well his last 20 fights he has 9 ko and tkos combined, 7 wins by decision and 4 losses ... so less than 50% ko wins and 20% losses...........Dominating??
Well, yeah.. until his last 3 or 4 fights he dominated everybody he ever faced.. But you wouldn't know that obviously.
Re: Roy Jones Jr: "Watch Me and See The Master"
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Siaca shouldn't be ranked at lightheavy I don't think.. Although I have no idea who he's fought there.. He was a super middle, who was KOed by Kessler for the WBA title, which he won from Mundine(but shouldn't have, Anthony stunk the place out and still it was razor thin). Good showcase kind of fight for Roy I guess but it doesn't prove a thing, noone should buy this PPV. Watch the replay and decide how you think Roy looks, because that's the only thing this fight will offer imo.
CC. Thanks for the info on Siaca. But who's gonna replay the PPV? Isn't it another one time only, small promoter PPV like the Ajamu fight was? And besides it'll probably be like 30 bucks not 50. And the Taylor vs Ouma fight will for sure be replayed.
yeah...if it's like 30 bucks I might get it and watch the Taylor fight a week later.....
