Just another Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Klitschko vs Brock

Cheers for the reply Wacko, to me a drunken rbr isn't the same unless I'm disagreeing with you over the result.

I'll certainly take your cc for a week bet. :P

Wacko... Who is on the undercard my friend? Also, By the way, Excellent coverage of the Mayweather Vs Baldomir fight! :appl: :coolclick:

Brock will crumble under Klitschk
Klitchkos far superior power will be way too much for Brock.
As soon as Klitschko finds his range and unloads it's over and over early.
Not really alot to discuss about this one really ;D
the big fella inside 5 by KO O0

I picked WLAD by KO. If Wlad does not KO Brock then he will lose alot of fans and the HW division will be in again the sad slump state that it has been in, But if Wlad KO's Brock in devistating fashion then it will make waves. the worst thing we can do is have a boring decision for Wlad or even worse for Brock. Man if Brock wins by a boring decision then he mine as well start tap dancing to make up for the boredom.

I favor Wlad in this one, but this is a much closer matchup than Mayweather/Baldy. The skill difference isn't as large, and I don't care what anyone else says, Wlad has a glass jaw. I've been on record as pulling for Baldy and HOPED he might have the power to KO Floyd. I KNOW Brock can KO Wlad. He has great power in both hands. It's not like Wlad has skills like Holmes or Ali. Please. He's the best in the division right now, but let's not make him into something that he isn't. Brock has more skills than Sam Peter, that's for sure. I think people think this is going to be a replay of Peter/Klit. Maybe, but Brock has a better chance to land the big one than Peter did.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wlad by a barrage of power punches that knock Brock the F*** out in the 3rd

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Agreed. 100%.

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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford

I expect Brock to do a little better than you guys are giving him credit for. He does have a huge amateur background (something like 245 amateur bouts) plus has excellent KO power. I have never been too impressed with Klitschko, although he did look good against Chris Byrd recently. He should have been fighting Byrd's wife, it probably would have been more competitive. I see either a UD for Klitschko or an upset KO win for Brock coming in the later rounds after Wlad tires out. Ive never seen Brock really tested before though so this will be a good indication of how good he really is...

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Hillarious. Byrd's a hell of a fighter...he just can't punch. Unfortunately...a lot of boxing fans base everything on knockouts...& that's a crying shame...but it is what it is.

Either way...I'm sticking to my theory that Klit stops him & in grand fashion!

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Anywho...Wlad has to keep the jab moving and that phenom of a hook sneaking behind it and he will bust Brock up....I am not high on Klit at all till he proves he is not spooked(The mere mention off Sanders has Wlad Shittin still) Wacks you bring up a good point that he is chinny from stamina..I agree no ones chin can stand up to fatigue...like you wanted to see Floyd in a scrape I want to see Wlad in a slug fest both giving and recieving to see how rugged the giant is....

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Go back through some of his older fights babe. He's gone toe to toe & hammered it out. Sanders caught him cold & he caught him hard. Many either don't know or won't admit it...but Sanders was one of the heaviest handed natural punchers above 200lbs.

Now? He's a total waste of talent.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Brock looked lackluster to me against Lawrence leading up to the KO and was stinking it up against Timor Ibragimov...But lets see if he can chop Wlad down...

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Agreed. He comes in like that...he's fwocked. To me Brock get's a bit amatuerish at times & often fights down to his opponents level. Timor & his bro are highly overratted IWO.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

There is tiny part of me that feels Wlad will get tired and catch one....I'm not a fan of either man but I hate on none of them either..I just hope if Wlad is the Man at Heavy and he makes us erase all the past by spanking Brock or putting on a good tactical display...

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Agreed. He sparks Brock out...I'm thrilled. Highly doubt he gasses out again though...Manny has supposedly helped him on that one.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

If Brock wins by Ko it will really be no suprise because its been done by lesser men.....But would screw the division up further since he would probably lose the belt after 1 defense..Being a Heavyweight champ is a friggin revolving door these days... :coolclick: for the review Wacks

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If Brock KO's Wlad...it'll be a HUGE upset. Wlad has not been done in by a lesser man. I hate to disagree...but you need to back pedal & research the one man that has actually knocked him out...& I aint talkin about Brewster.

Brock is no joke...really...but he's just a bit to well rounded & not polished in one power.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

CC Wack,great analysis as per usual,would ecpect nothing less. However,I only have one fight on my mind at the moment and that is Pacman Morales!! It's going to be my greatest fight ever"!!! Oh,I'm not too keen on either guy but for the stability of the division,I hope Klitschko wins. Maskaev KTFO them all out! ;D

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Thanks babe. :coolclick: right back.

I too can't wait for Pac Morales II. I'd rather fast forward & get the outcome first...but I will be in the theatre punching keys & pounding shots.

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Originally Posted by TyBuff

cc wacko...I think Klit is just to much for Brock. Brock's only chance is to hope Wlad gasses late in the fight so he can get a KO. But Im not seeing that happening, I think Manny will have Wlad well prepared and able to go the distance if neccessary. Wlad by KO 8th round.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Calvin Brock is a fighter I want to see excel. But his stance leaves him so open to right hands when he tries to jab. Brock has heart, he showed it against McCline. But SH isn't going to give him any chances because once inside SH will tie up. And unless Jay "Stop it, you stop it Jay" Nady is the ref, I don't see Brock winning.

He'll become a better fighter, but as the champs go I would have wanted him to fight someone like Maskaev first.

SH will win the fight but Brock will win a few fans. Score Calvin an A for heart score SH an A+ for technique and score SH the fight.

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I want Brock to excel also...which is why this is either the most ignorant or brilliant fight that he could have ever taken.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wlad will have no need to hold on to Brock.....and BESIDES Brock is the one who likes to lean on people. Zuri Lawrence, Cliff Ettienne....Calvin was leaning all over those fools.

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Leaning on Wlad will be his downfall. Peter tried that...look where it got him...& he's a damned sight heavier than Brock.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wlad is going to blast Brock....I like Calvin, I wish him the best but he just reminds me too much of another NC native.....James Smith. Not great at anything but good at everything....too bad he's not good enough.

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My thoughts exactly. Well rounded at everything...but not great at one aspect.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Brock-Rahman, Maskaev, Valuev, Peter, Briggs....he has a shot vs anyone not named Klitschko!

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Not so sure I agree there...but we shall see. I wonder how his career will fair after he get's destroyed by Wlad?

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Despite all the factors pointing towards a Klitschko win, Calvin Brock is one fighter that I do quite like, despite his snoozer last time out. It's good to see someone with a bit of character, an interesting personality, and not obsessed with the machismo that is prevalent in boxing. I want him to win, in the same way that I wanted Baldomir to win, but in reality, I have my doubts if it can happen. Anywho, I'll be logging come 3am or whatever it is that the fight is on, being very drunk, and very opinionated, and hopefully, hearing all about a cracking fight!

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Well said...again...I pretty much agree on that...& yes...I will be there at 3am or whatever it is that the fight is on for you, getting very drunk, and very opinionated witcha!

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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko

Jab...Jab...Jab...RIGHT HAND..........Wlad by KO in 4.

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Yep...but I'm saying 6 or 8.

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

! Wlad will rip this kid in 3 rounds ! much rather see Wlad -vs-Peter II or Wlad -vs- Holyfield. Wlad -vs-Tua. Wlad -vs- Chazz Witherspoon ..just not a very deep divison ! Truth be told it sucks a** ! :D

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Agreed. But Wlad could make the division great if he were the kingpin. He seems to have the desire to face the better fighters so far.

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

Wacko... Who is on the undercard my friend? Also, By the way, Excellent coverage of the Mayweather Vs Baldomir fight! :appl: :coolclick:

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Not sure that there is one. It starts at 10...so I don't believe that there is one. Thanks babe...you know I love the coverage me-self!

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Brock will crumble under Klitschk
Klitchkos far superior power will be way too much for Brock.
As soon as Klitschko finds his range and unloads it's over and over early.
Not really alot to discuss about this one really ;D
the big fella inside 5 by KO O0

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Agreed. 100%

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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P

I picked WLAD by KO. If Wlad does not KO Brock then he will lose alot of fans and the HW division will be in again the sad slump state that it has been in, But if Wlad KO's Brock in devistating fashion then it will make waves. the worst thing we can do is have a boring decision for Wlad or even worse for Brock. Man if Brock wins by a boring decision then he mine as well start tap dancing to make up for the boredom.

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I don't think so. He won't lose fans unless he get's sparked & I doubt that happens.

I think a good 12'r is what Wlad needs to prove that he's back in the game...but that stoppage would ring oh so sweet in the doubters ears.

Brock is highly regarded...& stopping him would indeed make waves in the division.

Wacko I just figured Brock-Rahman would be good because Calvin will need someone to LEAD him in the fight....he's no good as pressing the action he is sort of like Monte Barrett he needs someone to come after him so he can react.....McCline came after him and he fought great


Here's the full card
Wladimir Klitschko V Calvin Brock
Kevin Kelley V Manuel Medina
Laila Ali V Shelley Burton
Francisco Figueroa V Joey Rios
Derrick Rossy V Shannon Miller
Andy Lee V Dennis Sharpe
Denys Lozada V Reggie LaCrete
Vinny Maddalone V ?

....oh and when I say Calvin needs someone to lead the fight, this SOMEONE needs to not have the power of Wladimir Klitschko.

Rahman
Maskaev
Peter

They all like to mix it up but their power is not like Wlad's....they are either less powerful or less accurate

The 7rd demolishing of byrd was exactly what i was hoping for. I still say wlad is the club over the division and since there's no one better yet i'll continue to stick with my prediction of an 8th rd tko for wlad. (calling him wlad cause lyle gets offended by clinchko).

I don't get offended I just think it's stupid....call him whatever you want, he's a winner and he's the best in the division.

Is this fight Saturday night on HBO or what? I hope Brock can pull it off...I think a lot of people are on Wlad's nutsack and I dont really see why. He's nothing special.

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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford

Is this fight Saturday night on HBO or what? I hope Brock can pull it off...I think a lot of people are on Wlad's nutsack and I dont really see why. He's nothing special.

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Such is the state of the Heavyweight division.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Factors for & against Wlad:

#1: Power. This goes to Wlad. Brock can crack...but Wlad drops bombs. Brock get's TKO'd around the 8th...& that's a stretch.

#2: Stamina. Edge to Brock. If the great Manny hasn't worked magic here...we could see a repeat of the Brewster fight.

#3: Abilities. Wlad is the much more superior boxer...hands down. Wlad's got this one in the bag.

#4: Gameplan. Again...Wlad has this one in the bag. Given the opportunity...he out thought & outskilled one of the more tactical heavies in the game when he defeated Byrd. Brock will be no different.

Factors for & against Brock:

#1: Power. Come the fwock on. This is Wlad wer'e talking about. Sure Brock has power...but it's gonna be negated by Wlad's jab & soon there after Brock will be counting lightbulbs as Wlad hammers him with one of those vicious steel hammer hooks of his.

#2: Stamina. Edge to Brock here. If he can go the distance...Wlad will most suredly gas out & leave an opening.

#3: Abilities. Please...don't even get me started. Klitschko nails this one.

#4: Gameplan. Clearly agianst Brock. Brock loves to trade...this will be his downfall. If he could tie Wlad up a bit & use his mass against him...he might have a shot...but he won't & he'll be on the end of Wlad's fist all night long. Brock needs a bit more diversity to beat Klitschko.

IWO...Klitschko is the much more superior athelete & will pull a TKO late.

All that being said...break out the shot glasses & pour your poison of choice.

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches. Let's get [/b] this S*** crankin!!!

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Excellent write-up mate ! ;) Cool Click # 2292! ;)

Wlad doesn't ALWAYS gas out....the 2 times he did he threw a hell of a lot of punches and moved around alot.

VS Brock Wlad will have to move or clinch because CALVIN wants to fight on the inside because of the reach and height disadvantage.

Brock will lean in on Wlad and if Wlad lets that happen A) it's bad, B) it'll make for a more boring fight and C) he should turn Brock and jab out.

I think the right cross ends any of Calvin's dillusions of winning pretty early on. Brock's chin has been tested by JAMEEL MCCLINE that's not a very good test in my opinion....sure he knocked down Briggs at the height of his career but those are basically flash knockdowns because the guys hop right back up and ALSO McCline didn't come CLOSE to hurting Wlad.

But I digress I will let you give the stamina edge to Brock but Wlad will prove you wrong....he went the distance with Sam Peter who brought more of a fight than Brock will

I hope we get a clean fight from Wlad this time. I think he has enough to win it on skills alone. If he starts that hugging and kissing, I hope he gets KTFO.