Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
Man I aint even gonna touch this one...Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
I can pretty much sum up ODLH like this:
On the biggest non heavyweight PPV grossing fight ever and biggest stage of his career, ODLH ran!!! That's the truth. I'm sorry.
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary. PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
I too say that Oscar faught like a biatch against Tito.
He faught just like PBF fights. Hit and run.
Oscar should of got the nod for that fight. Oscar boxed and ran just like PBF does.
I was glad they gave the fight to Tito. I was very disapointed in Oscar even though he outboxed Tito, Oscar was still running a la PBF biatch style.
The difference is that PBF was running and still winning the rounds. ODLH was running for dear life.
Oscar was running from one of thee best fighters Tito Trinidad.
PBF was running from an old man (Barney Rubble look a-like) soft hitting, slow as a turtle Baldomir.
You can not compare Baldomir to The Great Tito Trinidad.
GET REAL!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary.
PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
Oscar started at 135 pound and he is argueably the best at 154 today do the math mate ::**
From what you have seen of Mayweather at 140 (Corely, Brussles, Gatti) and 147 (Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir) you honestly think Mayweather could of beat Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley all at 147 pound?
Get off the grass man ;D
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Here we go again. Can't you see?! Floyd is trying to be like Oscar. A respected, wealthy, and POPULAR fighter. But he is no where near that level. So while you try and hate on Delahoya and try and make Floyd way bigger than he really is...Oscar is enjoying popularity as a fighter and huge success as a business man. You say he doesn't impress you...well guess what...Floyd beating slow footed, slow punching fighters doesn't impress me either.
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary.
PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
Oscar started at 135 pound and he is argueably the best at 154 today do the math mate ::**
From what you have seen of Mayweather at 140 (Corely, Brussles, Gatti) and 147 (Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir) you honestly think Mayweather could of beat Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley all at
147 pound?
Get off the grass man ;D
Ummm, I think you were too busy sad clicking me to read what I was writing. I don't think anyone will agree with you here. ODLH was a MASSIVE 135 and 140, when he moved up to 147 and above, where he didn't have as much physical advantages, he was ordinary. PBF doesn't belong at 147 and is barely a true 140 pounder and he has dominated every fighter he's face from both weight classes. You can talk about Judah, but let's not forget Judah was the undisputed unified Welterweight champion at the beginning of this year and viciously knocked out a boxing master who fights at 154 (Spinks) to get those belts. And didn't ODLH fight Gatti too? Does that fight not count for ODLH?
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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The difference is that PBF was running and still winning the rounds. ODLH was running for dear life.
Yeah because it's not like he wasn't boxing Tito Trinidad's ears off.
PLUS Trinidad had DANGEROUS power....who has Floyd fought that had that sort of power??? Castillo, Corrales??? BAH, Trinidad ENDED CAREERS!!!!
And fighting an undefeated Corrales was "risky"???? HA!
Moving up to middleweight and fighting Bernard Hopkins was RISKY!!!!
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Originally Posted by zhubin
Here we go again. Can't you see?! Floyd is trying to be like Oscar. A respected, wealthy, and POPULAR fighter. But he is no where near that level. So while you try and hate on Delahoya and try and make Floyd way bigger than he really is...Oscar is enjoying popularity as a fighter and huge success as a business man. You say he doesn't impress you...well guess what...Floyd beating slow footed, slow punching fighters doesn't impress me either.
What are you even saying? Didn't I say at the beginning of this post that I respected ODLH's business sense? All boxers would like to be like ODLH outside of the ring, I SAID THAT!!! Read before writing. But a lot of ODLH popularity came from things outside of the ring like his charisma and his Mexican heritage. Hopkins was one of the best fighters of his era and it took him retiring for him to be accepted by mainstream public. This is EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!! Some of you are equating ODLH's popularity to his boxing ability and that is not accurate. And who the fuck said that I'm impressed by PBF's win over Baldomir, I started a post called Boring!!! saying how I thought the second half of the Baldy fight was boring and a post saying what a big mismatch this fight was before the fight. What are you talking about? You're confusing ODLH business success with his ring success. PBF will never be a PPV draw because he's not really a charasmatic person, he's not a heavyweight, he doesn't have a brawler's style and he doesn't have the huge Mexican following that the Mexican fighters have. You need to learn about the boxing business before you start talking.
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And to answer your question "Who has he beat?" I answer it with "whoever his era spit out for him to beat"
How about I ask you this question. In his prime and his hay day. Who could he have fought that he didn't? If you can name me a great fighter in Oscar's hay day that he DIDN'T fight then I'll say he didnt fight anybody. until then, credit Oscar with his era and wins rather then discredit it because the era didnt spit out 10 leonards for him to fight.
Winky Wright.....
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary.
PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
Oscar started at 135 pound and he is argueably the best at 154 today do the math mate ::**
From what you have seen of Mayweather at 140 (Corely, Brussles, Gatti) and 147 (Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir) you honestly think Mayweather could of beat Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley all at
147 pound?
Get off the grass man ;D
Yep, probably, yep, yep, yep.
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The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a fucking hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the fuck is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.
get the fuck outta here
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The difference is that PBF was running and still winning the rounds. ODLH was running for dear life.
Yeah because it's not like he wasn't boxing Tito Trinidad's ears off.
PLUS Trinidad had DANGEROUS power....who has Floyd fought that had that sort of power??? Castillo, Corrales??? BAH, Trinidad ENDED CAREERS!!!!
And fighting an undefeated Corrales was "risky"???? HA!
Moving up to middleweight and fighting Bernard Hopkins was RISKY!!!!
OMG!!!! So you're saying that Corrales isn't a P4P puncher at lightweight. If you're saying that then you're just biased. You're talking about arguably the best lightweight of the past 4 years and just because Floyd demolished him, now you're saying Corrales is garbage. Yeah, you're a smart guy. A real genius. BTW, moving up to fight B-Hop actually winning would have been risky. But he lost. Also, ODLH showed up for that fight looking out of shape and flabby, this is Floyd's life, he prepares for fights like it's his last, that's his committment. So say what you want, but Floyd is the best fighter of this era, was ODLH that best fighter of his?
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary.
PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
Oscar started at 135 pound and he is argueably the best at 154 today do the math mate ::**
From what you have seen of Mayweather at 140 (Corely, Brussles, Gatti) and 147 (Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir) you honestly think Mayweather could of beat Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley all at
147 pound?
Get off the grass man ;D
Ummm, I think you were too busy sad clicking me to read what I was writing. I don't think anyone will agree with you here. ODLH was a MASSIVE 135 and 140, when he moved up to 147 and above, where he didn't have as much physical advantages, he was ordinary. PBF doesn't belong at 147 and is barely a true 140 pounder and he has dominated every fighter he's face from both weight classes. You can talk about Judah,
but let's not forget Judah was the undisputed unified Welterweight champion at the beginning of this year and viciously knocked out a boxing master who fights at 154 (Spinks) to get those belts. And didn't ODLH fight Gatti too? Does that fight not count for ODLH?
I don't click period. Whether someone is big for their weight or not is irrelevent. Fact is ODH has belts at 6 weights PBF has belts at 4 plain and simple. Lets also not forget that Judah was nearly stopped by the feather fisted Baldomir right before he fought PBF and didn't deserve the fight anyway!!
Mayweather hasn't fought anyone listed on a p4p list since Featherweight, Oscar has fought half a dozen. At least we know how good Oscar is, you are just ASSUMING Floyd is as good as you say!! there simply is not enough proof.
It was Oscar that destroyed a 29 year old Gatti!! go and get yourself a tape of Gatti v Robinson and tell me it was the same Gatti Floyd fought?
It is easy to look good when you aren't fighting the best. ;)
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The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a F****** hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the F*** is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.
get the F*** outta here
Great analysis you dumbass.
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This is really going to add to your sad clicks
He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great
He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.
VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.
If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!
I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary.
PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.
Oscar started at 135 pound and he is argueably the best at 154 today do the math mate ::**
From what you have seen of Mayweather at 140 (Corely, Brussles, Gatti) and 147 (Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir) you honestly think Mayweather could of beat Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley all at
147 pound?
Get off the grass man ;D
Ummm, I think you were too busy sad clicking me to read what I was writing. I don't think anyone will agree with you here. ODLH was a MASSIVE 135 and 140, when he moved up to 147 and above, where he didn't have as much physical advantages, he was ordinary. PBF doesn't belong at 147 and is barely a true 140 pounder and he has dominated every fighter he's face from both weight classes. You can talk about Judah,
but let's not forget Judah was the undisputed unified Welterweight champion at the beginning of this year and viciously knocked out a boxing master who fights at 154 (Spinks) to get those belts. And didn't ODLH fight Gatti too? Does that fight not count for ODLH?
I don't click period. Whether someone is big for their weight or not is irrelevent. Fact is ODH has belts at 6 weights PBF has belts at 4 plain and simple. Lets also not forget that Judah was nearly stopped by the feather fisted Baldomir right before he fought PBF and didn't deserve the fight anyway!!
Mayweather hasn't fought anyone listed on a p4p list since Featherweight, Oscar has fought half a dozen. At least we know how good Oscar is, you are just ASSUMING Floyd is as good as you say!! there simply is not enough proof.
It was Oscar that destroyed a 29 year old Gatti!! go and get yourself a tape of Gatti v Robinson and tell me it was the same Gatti Floyd fought?
A 29 year old Gatti was an unfocused brawler who thought he could outslug a physically much bigger fighter in ODLH. Lol, you said 29 year old Gatti like that's supposed to mean something.
