Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah but no one says "Man Henry could ____" or "Henry would beat ____"
He's like Monzon, he sort of just sits there and no one elaborates as to WHY he's an all-time great, same with Willie Pep
agreed on that part never thought of it that way
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
Usually those fighters that are greats but aren't thought of that much are the ones that impress you the most. I saw some film on Pep recently and good god he was amazing!!!
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Usually those fighters that are greats but aren't thought of that much are the ones that impress you the most. I saw some film on Pep recently and good god he was amazing!!!
yea i see few of his fights on tele couple of weeks ago forget against who he was great fighter amazing fighter actually
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Bilbo your list is a legit one except if you mention Mora as a real fighter one more time I swear I'll SC you for posting under the influence of perscription drugs................
I got a few more that could go on the list...
Chris Byrd---Boring but other than the few fights he was just too out gunned in he is DAMN!!! hard to get the W on..
Virgil Hill--Been around forever...good record...only lost to prime guys...has some big names on his resume....Has had one title or another on his waist for the last 10 yrs with only short gaps between reigns...Most LHW title defenses....Plus at 42 still has a title
lol feel free to sc away. I'm proud to stand tall (well as tall as a hobbit can stand) and say I'm a Sergio Mora fan.
I like the guy, enjoy watching him fight and I reckon he's a genuine top 10 guy at 160 lb.
Even though I'm completely alone in this view I will not be ashamed.
Mora will fight for a world title within a couple years.
UUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I want to SC you till you cry!!!! You...You...Mora Lover you :frusty:....( I think that's bad enough no reason to get crazy ).............
No instead I gave you a CC cause you stand by your convictions....
I mean C'Mon what kind of guy would I be if I SC a Mora fan...I would make enemy's with the other Mora fan...Just 1 other
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Bilbo your list is a legit one except if you mention Mora as a real fighter one more time I swear I'll SC you for posting under the influence of perscription drugs................
I got a few more that could go on the list...
Chris Byrd---Boring but other than the few fights he was just too out gunned in he is DAMN!!! hard to get the W on..
Virgil Hill--Been around forever...good record...only lost to prime guys...has some big names on his resume....Has had one title or another on his waist for the last 10 yrs with only short gaps between reigns...Most LHW title defenses....Plus at 42 still has a title
lol feel free to sc away. I'm proud to stand tall (well as tall as a hobbit can stand) and say I'm a Sergio Mora fan.
I like the guy, enjoy watching him fight and I reckon he's a genuine top 10 guy at 160 lb.
Even though I'm completely alone in this view I will not be ashamed.
Mora will fight for a world title within a couple years.
UUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I want to SC you till you cry!!!! You...You...Mora Lover you :frusty:....( I think that's bad enough no reason to get crazy ).............
No instead I gave you a CC cause you stand by your convictions....
I mean C'Mon what kind of guy would I be if I SC a Mora fan...I would make enemy's with the other Mora fan...Just 1 other
If you feel sc will help you feel better then I understand completely. I know I should be ashamed but it's just the way I feel and I can't help it. :-[
:P
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Steve Collins
Joel Casamayor
Vernon Forrest
Wayne Alexander
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azumah nelson
marlon starling
gilberto roman
roger mayweather
mike mccallum
virgil hill
prince charles williams
dennis andries (for determination alone)
ricardo lopez
kaosai galaxy
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Bilbo your list is a legit one except if you mention Mora as a real fighter one more time I swear I'll SC you for posting under the influence of perscription drugs................
I got a few more that could go on the list...
Chris Byrd---Boring but other than the few fights he was just too out gunned in he is DAMN!!! hard to get the W on..
Virgil Hill--Been around forever...good record...only lost to prime guys...has some big names on his resume....Has had one title or another on his waist for the last 10 yrs with only short gaps between reigns...Most LHW title defenses....Plus at 42 still has a title
lol feel free to sc away. I'm proud to stand tall (well as tall as a hobbit can stand) and say
I'm a Sergio Mora fan.
I like the guy, enjoy watching him fight and I reckon
he's a genuine top 10 guy at 160 lb.
Even though I'm completely alone in this view I will not be ashamed.
Mora will fight for a world title within a couple years.
I see your crack habit has gotten out of control. Mora is garbage. And yes I did give you your weekly sc
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Taeth
It seems like alot of the really good fighetrs of the last 20 years have been either stated to having inferior opposition. Well I want people to make a list of who they think has been a ATG over the last 20 years who hasn't gotten recognition. There a few who have gotten the recognition and have deserved it (Holyfield, Mosley, ODLH, Cesar Chavez, Barrera, Morrales)
Pernell Whitaker
Winky Wright
Larry Holmes(IMO)
Mayweather Jr.
Roy Jones Jr.
Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe (sort of, but not ATG material IMO)
Kostya Tszyu
CC for that, I don't think anyone could have beat him in his prime. He is my favorite boxer ever and I believe he is the greatest ever bias or not.
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
Rafael Pineada. The guy who got screwed against my boy Judah in between the Spinks's fights. Check Pineada's record and you will see he has a razor thin loss to Spinks which actually means he won the damn fight. And look who else he fought in his career, he even has a Mayweather as a KO victim on there. The man never won a title, had hard luck, but was truly a world class fighter and very underrated. He deserves serious props, go to boxrec.com and check it out.
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Rafael Pineada. The guy who got screwed against my boy Judah in between the Spinks's fights. Check Pineada's record and you will see he has a razor thin loss to Spinks which actually means he won the damn fight. And look who else he fought in his career, he even has a Mayweather as a KO victim on there. The man never won a title, had hard luck, but was truly a world class fighter and very underrated. He deserves serious props, go to boxrec.com and check it out.
Good shout.
I was looking around on Boxrec a while back, doing some research on Cassamayor. His name popped up.
In fact his name popped up all over the place... His been fighting for quite a while now, fought most of the good fighters.
Seems aite.
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
Steve Collins
Joel Casamayor
Vernon Forrest
Wayne Alexander
Is he still fighting? I know he was ranked no.1 for British Light-Middleweights (might get some argument form Jamie Moore now).
But he doesnt ever get a mention ???
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Lyle
He's like Monzon, he sort of just sits there and no one elaborates as to WHY he's an all-time great, same with Willie Pep
Pep had one of the best defenses I have ever seen - nobody matched it untill Whitaker imo.
Re: Perhaps the best fighters who aren't recognized...
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Originally Posted by Taeth
It seems like alot of the really good fighetrs of the last 20 years have been either stated to having inferior opposition. Well I want people to make a list of who they think has been a ATG over the last 20 years who hasn't gotten recognition. There a few who have gotten the recognition and have deserved it (Holyfield, Mosley, ODLH, Cesar Chavez, Barrera, Morrales)
Pernell Whitaker
Winky Wright
Larry Holmes(IMO)
Mayweather Jr.
Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe (sort of, but not ATG material IMO)
Kostya Tszyu
Pernell Whitaker - All time great
Winky Wright - Not an all time great, but an all time great defense ;)
Larry Holmes(IMO) All time great
Mayweather Jr. - will be an all time great - not yet tho
Roy Jones Jr. - All time great
Lennox Lewis - Not top 10 Heavy in my opinion - not sure on him tbh
Joe Calzaghe (sort of, but not ATG material IMO) - Not an all time great - could've have been had things gone differently outside the ring
Kostya Tszyu - slightly overrrated imo - All time great Light welter tho I suppose
