best non heavy champ

His workrate has diminished, his training sucks....do you watch his fights???

Thinking optimisticly is putting it lightly!!!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

His workrate has diminished, his training sucks....do you watch his fights???

Thinking optimisticly is putting it lightly!!!

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oi!! ;D
watch it bitch tits!!.. lol stay nice

one.. his workrate is getting better and its probably a motivation issue rather then anything else, like i have previously explained im extremely optimistic about toneys future and his gain in motivation for the future!

his training is not all bad.. he trained pretty well for the peter fight... with the right nutrition and the right motivation... and the right fight... the rematch for example... i believe over the course of his next or next few fights he can be back in shape...

and also... not starting shit here... and if i type swears it is only a way of getting across how strongly i feel about the matter.... i fucking hate it when people ask me did you see the fight.. have you even watched the guy fight bla bla bla..ARRGHHH :P >:mad lol
yes i have seen him fight... and im sure you'l admit fights are bound to look different in my eyes then yours...
for example... person who hates toney../ person who loves toney.
one person will say he didnt get off all night , he didnt have the workrate he didnt fight his fight set his own pace and followed the other guy all night and lost himself most of the rounds...
another might say fair play.. he wasnt getting off like he could do.. but hes a counter puncher.. he landed effective shots he countered nicely.. he looked good..yada yada
and im the first to admit like everyone should if its your boy in there... and its a close round..
nine out of ten people will call the round for theyr favourite fighter.. cos thats who youve been watching the closest and you can name twice as many things your fighter did in that round then you can name that his opponent did?

can you feel me?
peace ;)

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Yeah, I'm going with Sam Peter too.  He did enough to win last time out, whatever the haters say, and Brock sounds like he had his a*** handed to him last night, so IMO it's a bit of a no-brainer.

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Hah. Haters, for what.. having eyes? Don't be ridiculous, Peter did not do "enough to win", he did enough to let the real haters come out and start saying he won though, apparently.. It's boxing, nobody who knows the sport should have had that fight scored for Peter.. He won at most 3 or 4 rounds, even 5.. and then add the point deduction... And you still thought he won? It doesn't make someone a hater to see the BS in a decision like that.

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umm punchstats show peter 327 landed 772 thrown james toney 218 landed 647 thrown wouldnt really call that bs decision

of course it's toney, toney beat peter and would beat brock also. dont count out davarryl williamson though, he used to KO brock when we were amateurs.

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Originally Posted by Eric Kelly

of course it's toney, toney beat peter and would beat brock also. dont count out davarryl williamson though, he used to KO brock when we were amateurs.

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hold on a minute peter outlanded toney by over 100 punches plus threw more than 100 punches more than toney but toney won i dont get it i know punchstats can be misleading but come on 100 more punches thrown and landed ??

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Eric Kelly

of course it's toney, toney beat peter and would beat brock also. dont count out davarryl williamson though, he used to KO brock when we were amateurs.

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hold on a minute peter outlanded toney by over 100 punches plus threw more than 100 punches more than toney but toney won i dont get it i know punchstats can be misleading but come on 100 more punches thrown and landed ??

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ok dude check this... i know you prob already thought of this but i'll say it any way lol :P
say toney wins 7 rounds and peter wins 5...
in the rounds that peter wins he throws quite alot of punches... say he does that in every round that he wins..
and say toney wins 7 rounds which go a fair bit slower and toney throws less punches etc but clearly wins the rounds
total punchstat numbers cant define how the bout went...
the only way to score a bout by punchstat is to look at the numbers round by round
Peace

Sam Peter. Toney should retire already before he gets anymore brain damage. I'd prefer to remember him as a middleweight.

Laikhovich will be the best contender if he gets his shit together perhaps.