Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by lb4lb
Lewis. This would have been the easier route. I always thought and still think that Vitali was the better one.
couldn't agree more
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well Wlad always had power, I see it being kind of like the Lewis-Briggs fight.....Wlad could have put Lennox down but Lewis could have grabbed onto Wlad and pulled the same S*** he did vs Michael Grant
Question: Have you seen the fight vs. Michael Grant? Because what Lennox did was totally dominate the ex-nfl'er.
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by GAME
If it was Wvlad that night instead of Vitali I reckon Lewis will have still tried to slug out out cuz he wasnt in condition to box .
If he was in the same shape he was for Rahman 2 then Lewis would have snapped out his left hand and ended it with a right pretty early in the fight .
The Lewis Vitali fought though was older and slower and Wvlad would have done better than his bro by boxing more , getting involved less and use his left hand from a distance . Inevitably Lennox would have caught up with him and those shots he began landing on Vitali would have dropped and stopped Wvlad . Igave Vitali 1 more round beofre getting stopped legitimatley by Lewis if it wasnt for the cuts . Id give Wvlad even less considering his stamina and chin problems
Lewis in 5
No way was Vitali wilting in that fight...Lewis would of been the one going down...He didnt have the stamina to continue...Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali..Why do you think he refused the rematch and retired
Lewis finished teh stronger . Everyone saw he won the 6th round and Vitali was on teh verge of being stopped even if his face wasnt ripped to shreds .
Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali ? Is that a joke . Lewis on his worst day stopped Vitali . He didn grant a return cuz he was under no obligation to . He won fair and square . When have you ever heard of a stoppage 6 round winner being obliged to face teh man he's already stopped .
No possible way Vitali could have gone on to win . He was knackered . His face was ruined . He was bleeding everywhere . His best shotys bounced off Lennox and teh champ was just getting warmed up . He had just started to land his uppercuts etc and was on top of that fight when it was stopped .
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Question: Have you seen the fight vs. Michael Grant? Because what Lennox did was totally dominate the ex-nfl'er.
Read my post again jackass
I said Wlad could have made Lewis more cautious OR Lewis COULD HAVE done the same thing he did to Michael Grant
And by that I mean that there were 2 outcomes Lewis-Briggs-esque or Lewis-Grant-esque and if the Briggs type of fight played out Wlad would have had a better chance than Shannon to finish Lennox if he got them hurt.
...sorry for the name calling but God damnit I hate it when I have to explain myself
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by GAME
If it was Wvlad that night instead of Vitali I reckon Lewis will have still tried to slug out out cuz he wasnt in condition to box .
If he was in the same shape he was for Rahman 2 then Lewis would have snapped out his left hand and ended it with a right pretty early in the fight .
The Lewis Vitali fought though was older and slower and Wvlad would have done better than his bro by boxing more , getting involved less and use his left hand from a distance . Inevitably Lennox would have caught up with him and those shots he began landing on Vitali would have dropped and stopped Wvlad . Igave Vitali 1 more round beofre getting stopped legitimatley by Lewis if it wasnt for the cuts . Id give Wvlad even less considering his stamina and chin problems
Lewis in 5
No way was Vitali wilting in that fight...Lewis would of been the one going down...He didnt have the stamina to continue...Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali..Why do you think he refused the rematch and retired
Lewis finished teh stronger . Everyone saw he won the 6th round and Vitali was on teh verge of being stopped even if his face wasnt ripped to shreds .
Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali ? Is that a joke . Lewis on his worst day stopped Vitali . He didn grant a return cuz he was under no obligation to . He won fair and square . When have you ever heard of a stoppage 6 round winner being obliged to face teh man he's already stopped .
No possible way Vitali could have gone on to win . He was knackered . His face was ruined . He was bleeding everywhere . His best shotys bounced off Lennox and teh champ was just getting warmed up . He had just started to land his uppercuts etc and was on top of that fight when it was stopped .
yeah gotta agree, I don't like Lewis and was routing 4 Vitali but looking back
Lewis won fair and square, I wish there had of been a rematch because it was
an entertaining fight, but if Lewis came into the fight in good condition he'd make
life alot easier 4 himself
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by GAME
If it was Wvlad that night instead of Vitali I reckon Lewis will have still tried to slug out out cuz he wasnt in condition to box .
If he was in the same shape he was for Rahman 2 then Lewis would have snapped out his left hand and ended it with a right pretty early in the fight .
The Lewis Vitali fought though was older and slower and Wvlad would have done better than his bro by boxing more , getting involved less and use his left hand from a distance . Inevitably Lennox would have caught up with him and those shots he began landing on Vitali would have dropped and stopped Wvlad . Igave Vitali 1 more round beofre getting stopped legitimatley by Lewis if it wasnt for the cuts . Id give Wvlad even less considering his stamina and chin problems
Lewis in 5
No way was Vitali wilting in that fight...Lewis would of been the one going down...He didnt have the stamina to continue...Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali..Why do you think he refused the rematch and retired
Lewis finished teh stronger . Everyone saw he won the 6th round and Vitali was on teh verge of being stopped even if his face wasnt ripped to shreds .
Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali ? Is that a joke . Lewis on his worst day stopped Vitali . He didn grant a return cuz he was under no obligation to . He won fair and square . When have you ever heard of a stoppage 6 round winner being obliged to face teh man he's already stopped .
No possible way Vitali could have gone on to win . He was knackered . His face was ruined . He was bleeding everywhere . His best shotys bounced off Lennox and teh champ was just getting warmed up . He had just started to land his uppercuts etc and was on top of that fight when it was stopped .
yeah gotta agree, I don't like Lewis and was routing 4 Vitali but looking back
Lewis won fair and square, I wish there had of been a rematch because it was
an entertaining fight, but if Lewis came into the fight in good condition he'd make
life alot easier 4 himself
agreed
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by GAME
Lewis finished teh stronger . Everyone saw he won the 6th round and Vitali was on teh verge of being stopped even if his face wasnt ripped to shreds .
Lewis knew he couldnt beat Vitali ? Is that a joke . Lewis on his worst day stopped Vitali . He didn grant a return cuz he was under no obligation to . He won fair and square . When have you ever heard of a stoppage 6 round winner being obliged to face teh man he's already stopped .
No possible way Vitali could have gone on to win . He was knackered . His face was ruined . He was bleeding everywhere . His best shotys bounced off Lennox and teh champ was just getting warmed up . He had just started to land his uppercuts etc and was on top of that fight when it was stopped .
Lewis "finished stronger" because he had to try to take advantage of that cut...he shot his load and if the fight continued for 1 more round it would have been Vitali on top again because Lewis was dead fucking tired and all he could say was "look at the state of his face"
I have no hate for Lewis but give Vitali his props, he wasn't going to get "KNOCKED OUT" in the literal since of the term he had already taken Lewis' best shots and didn't go down.
Vitali was jipped out of a chance to win by a cut and it was an accidental cut...it sucks
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
Accidental cut :-\ nah Lewis cut him with a right hand . It was clearly shown in replay . Lewis beat him fairly and there cant be any disputing that. Vitali acted with little class at the end . Far from a dignity in defeat he was a sore loser . Didnt deserve a rematch . Yeah he put up a decent effort but if a champ wnats to retire why cant he
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
Vitali took one of the most ruthless upercuts that I've ever seen and kept coming. That would have dropped Wladimir like a bag of soiled laundry.
Vitali looked like he could have gone on in the fight while Lewis was totally exhausted.
It was a great championship fight! Very ballsy performance by both sides. If the fight wasn't stopped, the result would be idle speculation at this point.
We should just thank Lewis and Klitschko for a very entertaining war and leave it at that.
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by GAME
Accidental cut :-\ nah Lewis cut him with a right hand . It was clearly shown in replay
Vitali got THUMBED!...He leaned back and Lewis' grazing right hand caught his eyelid
It wasn't Lewis' intention to cut him, he didn't do anything dirty, but it was an accident.
Wladimir would have made Lewis be a little hesitant IMO, but hey you never know, I won't disagree with Lewis winning it at that time
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
Who really knows?I could speculate until the cows come home.Wladimir is the more acurate faster puncher and I believe the dtronger puncher as well.Vitali was a little more predictable than Wladimir.Both Lewis and Wladimir's chin's are about equal.I think Wladimir has a better left jab than Lewis and maybe a faster right.The fight could go either way but I would have to give Wladimir a better chance than Vitali did, and Vitali was ahead on the cards at the stoppage.
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
....it's also hard to say how Vitali-Lewis would have turned out had they had the regular amount of time to prepare for each other...I bet that would have been good but we'll never know
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
Who really knows?I could speculate until the cows come home.Wladimir is the more acurate faster puncher and I believe the dtronger puncher as well.Vitali was a little more predictable than Wladimir.Both Lewis and Wladimir's chin's are about equal.I think Wladimir has a better left jab than Lewis and maybe a faster right.The fight could go either way but I would have to give Wladimir a better chance than Vitali did, and Vitali was ahead on the cards at the stoppage.
no there not lewis has been in some tough fights when he hasnt got dropped mercer fight was slugfest briggs one was bruno one he had to take right hands and he comeback and of course vitali brawl vitali was only 2 rounds ahead i think people overrate this performance id love to of seen prime lewis fight that night
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2 rounds ahead out of a total of 6 rounds......4-2 Vitali.....that's impressive vs such a good champion especially on short notice.
Yes Lewis took the fight on short notice as well but the champion is supposed to be in shape anyways.
That being said I thought Lewis' toughness really showed in that fight as opposed to his previous fights
Re: if lewis would of fought wlad instead of vitali who would of won ??
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Originally Posted by Lyle
2 rounds ahead out of a total of 6 rounds......4-2 Vitali.....that's impressive vs such a good champion especially on short notice.
Yes Lewis took the fight on short notice as well but the champion is supposed to be in shape anyways.
That being said I thought Lewis' toughness really showed in that fight as opposed to his previous fights
lewis toughness did show it was good performance not saying that i just think people overrate it a bit
