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First debate was between

Debater "PRIDE OF BOSTON"

Challenger stavros693000

You need three voters, who will decide the winner of this debate.

I'm definatly not going to get into this majesty, deabating with you is like banging your head against a brick wall, that'll never give in, or even consider someone else's views, you'd make a great politician bro ;)
Cool idea though, I vote for stavros693000

. Starto is basing the bulk of his debate on using the age factor which mean nothing in this fight, Oscar is only 33 years old. Almost all the great champions are in their mid to late 30's .

Pride brings up some more core issues,. and i agree with him.

I vote for Pride of Boston ;)

This would be really killer Maj ... check this out.. hire an Attorney to represent your case. one of the forum members to debate on your behalf ! lol.. something like that would killer. keeps the emotions down and would be funny as hell to watch
. ;)

I vote for Pride of Boston

He made some great points while stavros693000 made some good ones too but seemed mainly focused on Oscar's age instead of Floyd's skill.

fair enough,but i want to say one more thing........i believe age is the main issue here...ODLH(dont get me wrong,i think he is an ATG IMO and future HOF one of my FAVES) but he is way past his best,hes slowed down conciderably from the golden boy from the 90's we've all come to love,he's just not as sharp as he used to be,i mean the guys got grey hair at 33 for fuk sake......on the other hand PBF is just hittin his stride and primed up,hes to fast for oscar,.......delahoya will be eatin straight rights and uppercuts all night....maybe be oscar can do alright from the outside but not enough to win.but if he gets draged into a brawl i see him getting KTFO!

I REALLY HOPE OSCAR CAN PULL OF AN UPSET,BUT LODGIC TELLS ME OTHERWISE! :'(

I vote for stavros693000

Well there's a draw.

Alright, voting will end tomorrow at 12 PM.

Winner will ne announced then.

And if it is still a draw.

There will be a final statement by both which I will judge. The winner of that statement will win the debate.

Can I vote too?

If so I vote for "PRIDE OF BOSTON"

He attacked the debate from more than one angle.

And "PRIDE" I'm old enough to get the Ferris Beuler joke as well ;)

PRIDE stavros693000
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Originally Posted by Lyle

Thanks dude

I guess no one wants to start this out....everyone is scared

I'll participate...I challenge anyone to explain to me the positive side of Evander Holyfield's comeback

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First off it's not a comeback because he never left so there is no challenge to explain it. Second he is most likely in 10 to 1000 times in better shape then any computer hack on this forum and most likely 99.9% of all heavyweight boxers out there and can beat many of them if not most of them. Fighting is his CHOSEN profession and livelyhood and who are you to say he can't do it anymore. There are fighters out there who get beat just about everytime they step in the ring for some up and comer and no one is forcing them out. So Lyle what do you do for a living and are you the absolute best there is or are there thousands out there that make you look like an amateur. This no challenge at all, I'm saying your opinion of Holyfield don't mean squat to anyone but yourself. Now why don't you convince everyone he has no business in the ring when he just defeated a top 15 contender of the world who fought and was robbed of the title against Byrd two years ago. Oh I know he's not the fastest and the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division. Hey guess what Lyle, either is 99.9% of all heavyweights. So in your eyes thats reason enough to forceably retire him.

The positive side, how about he's a man who happens to enjoy what he does and can, and he has fans that will watch him fight whether you will or not makes no difference. now the negative side, he faces the fate or chance that all fighters face, a loss, brain damage or maybe even death. If we or you follow your opinion then there should be no boxing, wrestling, football, baseball, mixed martial arts, gymnastics, downhill hill ski racing, auto racing, motorcycle racing, bobsledding, I could go on and on and name just about every sport there is. Now tell us the negatives that no other fighter or sportsman faces.

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Originally Posted by stebs

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Thanks dude

I guess no one wants to start this out....everyone is scared

I'll participate...I challenge anyone to explain to me the positive side of Evander Holyfield's comeback

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First off it's not a comeback because he never left so there is no challenge to explain it. Second he is most likely in 10 to 1000 times in better shape then any computer hack on this forum and most likely 99.9% of all heavyweight boxers out there and can beat many of them if not most of them. Fighting is his CHOSEN profession and livelyhood and who are you to say he can't do it anymore. There are fighters out there who get beat just about everytime they step in the ring for some up and comer and no one is forcing them out. So Lyle what do you do for a living and are you the absolute best there is or are there thousands out there that make you look like an amateur. This no challenge at all, I'm saying your opinion of Holyfield don't mean squat to anyone but yourself. Now why don't you convince everyone he has no business in the ring when he just defeated a top 15 contender of the world who fought and was robbed of the title against Byrd two years ago. Oh I know he's not the fastest and the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division. Hey guess what Lyle, either is 99.9% of all heavyweights. So in your eyes thats reason enough to forceably retire him.

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Second debate

DEBATER Lyle

CHALLENGER stebs

Alrighty :juggle:

#1 It IS a comeback because an inability to get a LICENSE caused the "Holy Warrior" to have a hiatus

Larry Donald 11-13-2004.......long break......Jeremy Bates 8-18-2006....roughly 2 years, I believe it qualifies as a break and so this right meow would be called a COMEBACK....because he's COMING .....BACK.....to boxing


#2 Fitness guru Jack Lalane is like 93 and he's in better shape than most of us on the forum.....doesn't mean he'll win any titles anytime soon

#3 As a FAN of the sport of boxing, I not only care to watch great fights but I care to see great fighters live to influence fighters of another generation

#4 Journeymen getting licensed is one thing....they don't make enough money to JUST box...usually they have another job so when people say "don't quit your day job" they are talking to those guys

#5 Yes there are people better than me at what I do......but I am not getting brain damage from trying...awwww shux fella I wish I could

#6 My opinion is backed up by numerous boxing fans

#7 Fres Oquendo is ALSO on the comeback trail....and he got TKO'd by John Ruiz. But yeah I had him beating Byrd too.

#8 Listen to Evander talk....he's like 5 punches past retarded....and that was after the Bowe trilogy. And even if you STOP boxing your brain will not heal from those blows to the head.


Let me ask you stebs, would you rather Evander be like he is now or would you rather him be like Gerald McClellan???

.....do I win yet?

I say you call it a no-contest. They both sucked equally.